Cowboys 'Not Fair' In Diggs Contract Talks? CB Wants 'Guaranteed' Deal?

[removed_20241105]

Honestly can’t find one reason to listen to Dez’s opinion on 2023-2024 cornerback contracts state of affairs.

I translate his comments as please give my friend what he wants fully guaranteed. He’s really good at CB and he’s my boy, at the moment.

 

[DallasEast]

You know, I believe it should all be guaranteed.

I'm not opposed to football going this way. Get rid of restructuring and have consistent cap hits.
Maybe it would prevent teams from going full stupid. Or if they did, they would hamstring their team for years.

Base salaries for every position & then pay for performance based on the zillion metrics available. Everyone gets what they deserve for what they did in any given year. A portion of the salary buys insurance policy.

I have been an opponent of the NFL's current hard salary cap structure since day one 29 years ago. I can get behind your suggestions.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

He's probably just going to play on the tag next year anyway

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Nothing really to see here IMO......the key issue with all NFL player's contracts is how much money is guaranteed. Stephen's initial offer I'm sure was embarrassingly low. I personally think Digg's a candidate for the 2024 tag. In other words, unless he's willing to accept a mod-low ball long-term offer, I don't Stephen is in any hurry to get this done.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

He's probably just going to play on the tag next year anyway

This^^^^my thoughts also

 

[McKDaddy]

I see a lot of corporate boot lickers all over here. Then trying to compare your life to theirs. Newsflash, they trained and worked all their life to get the leverage they can. No, your desk job isn't the same and making those comparisons are ignorant.

Also, millionaires or not, these players have a very short window in a violent sport without guaranteed contracts to make the most money they can. I see so many side with these greedy billionaire owners who do absolutely nothing but cut checks. And they got to that position by exploiting constantly.

Owners expect players to take paycuts constantly and no one bats an eye. Second players want the most they can get, everyone gets up in arms.

Truth in what you say .... but there are two sides to everything and exactly when either side begins to cross lines is up for personal interpretation.

No doubt the ultra wealthy get rich & stay rich off the backs of others. Also, no doubt players & agents get greedy and out of touch with reality.

However, one thing I don't hear mentioned is that the NFL has never been a non-profit. No business owner is going to give away all the profit. The players union has gotten the cap tied to revenue and "as a whole" players are fairly compensated.

$10 million for 250 carries is $40,000 \ carry. I know that oversimplifies everything a player puts in, but the player isn't really being underpaid regardless of whether he thinks he's worth #13M because someone else got that much.

 

[conner01]

Move on…dude is not worth a guaranteed contract.

No player is. The problem with a guaranteed contract is the entire contract has to be forked over up front in escrow. That would create a major issue for several teams as they would struggle to pay all that money up front
The browns created a monster when they did it and teams have to reign that in or problems will arise for many teams

 

[conner01]

This^^^^my thoughts also

That’s the path the cowboys generally take

 

[visionary]

https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...eals-dak-prescott-zack-martin-guaranteed-camp

Cowboys BREAKING: Dallas Opens Trevon Diggs Contract Talks - Source; $81 Million CB?

Cowboys 'Not Fair' In Diggs Contract Talks? CB Wants 'Guaranteed' Deal?​

Former Dallas Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant reveals he has talked with cornerback Trevon Diggs through Diggs' extension talks with the team, and gave his thoughts on the situation

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DALLAS COWBOYS
The Dallas Cowboys have several key players due for new deals soon, with one of them being star corner Trevon Diggs.
Diggs and the Cowboys began extension talks in early June, as CowboysSI.com was first to report. But it's been relatively quiet since then. That is until former Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant decided to chime in.
Since exiting football a few years ago, Bryant has been very vocal about issues around the NFL and especially his beloved former team. It turns out that Bryant has been talking with Diggs throughout the corner's extension talks, and he revealed where they stand right now. Notably, Bryant had an interesting comment on how the Cowboys are handling the negotiations.

"I'll say this, he is not trying to knock them across the head, I will say that," Dez said via his Personal Corner Spaces. "And I will say they're not trying to be fair to him. And I feel like what he's asking for, he is rightfully deserving of that contract. You know, I believe it should all be guaranteed."

This drama was completely predictable
Trade him already please

 

[visionary]

I see a lot of corporate boot lickers all over here. Then trying to compare your life to theirs. Newsflash, they trained and worked all their life to get the leverage they can. No, your desk job isn't the same and making those comparisons are ignorant.

Also, millionaires or not, these players have a very short window in a violent sport without guaranteed contracts to make the most money they can. I see so many side with these greedy billionaire owners who do absolutely nothing but cut checks. And they got to that position by exploiting constantly.

Owners expect players to take paycuts constantly and no one bats an eye. Second players want the most they can get, everyone gets up in arms.

Stop it already
This is purely a business decision
Trade him

 

[conner01]

I see a lot of corporate boot lickers all over here. Then trying to compare your life to theirs. Newsflash, they trained and worked all their life to get the leverage they can. No, your desk job isn't the same and making those comparisons are ignorant.

Also, millionaires or not, these players have a very short window in a violent sport without guaranteed contracts to make the most money they can. I see so many side with these greedy billionaire owners who do absolutely nothing but cut checks. And they got to that position by exploiting constantly.

Owners expect players to take paycuts constantly and no one bats an eye. Second players want the most they can get, everyone gets up in arms.

For the most part I agree but few players take pay cuts. A restructure cuts the cap hit but the player still gets the same money
I have no issue with players wanting to get paid but a guaranteed contract is a totally different issue. That comes with serious consequences for the teams and the league as a whole. No way several teams could exist in a league where contracts are guaranteed because they simply couldn’t come up with the cash it would take.
You can structure a deal that is reasonable assured to pay out most of the contract without it being guaranteed but that guarantee comes with consequences that could change the nfl and make some teams unable to compete. And that hurts the entire league

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

None of the Billionaires are “fair” to the Millionaires, boo-hoo…….Dez and the entire sports media look at business through the eyes of a child

overpay Lamar, overlay Deshaun, overpay Saquon……the list goes on and on

So adults take the side of the billionaires. Thanks for the contribution.

 

[Hagman]

Meh, it's a business negotiation between sides that's early on in the process. Both sides ask for more than they know they'll get.
The main issue here is Diggs has an idiot friend who publicly ran his mouth off.
OK, the Cowboys leak all kinds of things to the media to help get what they want in these kinds of things, but Digg's agent needs to be doing that for him instead of a wack-a-doodle friend.

 

[aikemirv]

If he was a good tackler, I would say pay the man. He is a terrible tackler- probably one of the worst in the NFL as a starter. That's the honest truth. I love the picks but the whiffs frustrate me more than the picks excite me as a whole. Trade him for 2 firsts and put pressure on the QB and you will still get picks!

 

[Sheepherder]

None of the Billionaires are “fair” to the Millionaires, boo-hoo…….Dez and the entire sports media look at business through the eyes of a child

overpay Lamar, overlay Deshaun, overpay Saquon……the list goes on and on

Overpay zek.......

 

[shabazz]

So adults take the side of the billionaires. Thanks for the contribution.

The adults understand what a salary cap is
The adults understand value of position
The adults understand that running backs in their 2nd contract almost always underperform just like some corners are overrated because of interceptions but aren’t complete players

its not personal….just business

BTW, some here took the side of our Billionaire when he backed up the dump truck of cash at Dakotas house……they sure did , and continue to side with that Billionaire

Thus endeth the lesson.

 

[shabazz]

would you rather be overpaid or underrated, sounds like you look through it through the eyes of a jealous man

Not jealous at all. I’m personally financially set for life and LOVE capitalism……I just understand that certain positions in football don’t carry the same value and since the QB carry’s 25% of some salary caps, hard choices must be made…..although the staff at ESPN would disagree since they personally want every player to break the bank…..child-like virtue signaling on their part

 

[kumizi]

Diggs hasn’t proven he needs to be the top paid CB IMO. I’d let him play this year out without an extension.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The adults understand what a salary cap is
The adults understand value of position
The adults understand that running backs in their 2nd contract almost always underperform.

its not personal….just business

BTW, some here took the side of our Billionaire when he backed up the dump truck of cash at Dakotas house……they sure did , and continue to side with that Billionaire

Thus endeth the lesson.

The stat which has been widely distributed is that runnngbacks peak at age 26-27. If rookie deals are from age 21-24 and second contracts go to age 25-28 then your assertion makes no sense.

Plus there is a difference between taking one side or another in a particular instance and making a classist distinction to define everything.

 

[Rockport]

Not jealous at all. I’m personally financially set for life and LOVE capitalism……I just understand that certain positions in football don’t carry the same value and since the QB carry’s 25% of some salary caps, hard choices must be made…..although the staff at ESPN would disagree since they personally want every player to break the bank…..child-like virtue signaling on their part

There are no QB’s making 25% of the cap.

Top 4 2023 QB Salary Cap Hits​

QB	Team	% Of Team's Cap
Patrick Mahomes	Chiefs	18.01%
Ryan Tannehill	Titans	15.85%
Lamar Jackson	Ravens	14.50%
Jared Goff	Lions	13.63%