Cowboys 'Not Fair' In Diggs Contract Talks? CB Wants 'Guaranteed' Deal?

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The “cap” agreement included a cap on rookies’ salaries. Veteran players are not likely to ever care about players who are not NFL players. Since the cap insures a degree of competitive parity, and that parity insures the league’s popularity, and that popularity leads to increased revenues, and by agreement with the players the cap increases as revenues increase, the players got something they wanted in deference to agreeing to the salary cap. So did the owners.
The rookie salaries sub-cap was an afterthought until they grew outrageously out of proportion with veterans' salaries.

Veteran players may or may not care about non-NFL players but they do care about guaranteed money.

I have disliked (and commented numerous times on this site and another previous one) enforced parity from the late 1990's until today.

The league's popularity has grown exponentially since the owners and players first collective bargaining agreement of the current kind in 1994. Its current popularity was built on the league's popularity that preceded it. I am entirely in favor of initial decrease in overall revenue negatively impacting revenue sharing among the teams that will, as a byproduct, eliminate subsequent struggling franchises from the league. Over time, the NFL would resurrect itself as being competitive in the fashion before the current salary cap era. In my opinion, less teams playing better quality of football akin to the standard established before the last 30 years and 'better' more hardened and devoted fans enjoying and supporting the change.

The last two sentences of the paragraph above are a complete pipe dream of mine.

The players have compromised with owners from day one of the current salary cap system in order to get partially what they want. Players primarily desire fully guaranteed contracts that their counterparts in the National Basketball Association, National Hockey League and Major League Baseball enjoy. NFL players' desires are not fulfilled in this aspect while owners profit from the largest revenue stream of any of the four major professional team sports in North America. Deference? Certainly. Would they forsake that contractual consideration for guaranteed contracts provided outside the NFL? I believe more than enough players and player union officials have commented on the subject over the past three decades to provide that answer.
 

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It would be fair if he made a play against the 49ers and they won.
 

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I like Diggs and hope he stays.

That said….I wouldn’t be in any hurry to sign him. Let’s play out this season and see what happens with our other corners. There’s always the tag.

If he wants the entire deal guaranteed, I’d consider that if I’m the team, but the non guaranteed part and the AAV are gonna be less.

If he wants market AAV fully guaranteed let the Browns give it to him.
 

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All players, past and present, think the contracts should all be guaranteed. Nothing earth shattering here.
And they can be, if a player is willing to settle for a little less. Problem is, they want top of the market money all guaranteed. If a teams starts doing that, they'll soon sink into mediocrity oblivion.
 

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I don't understand these people. They really don't get how lucky we are to even have Diggs. But that's their answer..."move on and get someone else" as if it was easy to find the one we had.

I get we can't pay everyone but i'm in A WIN NOW mode. Why in the hell would I trade him? I'd rather lose him eventually if that's the case.
We are trying to pay him. He wants too much, which will cause us to lose.
 

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Yall kill me with the move on and trade Diggs but when the next corner doesnt force turnovers theres 50 million threads about us not getting turnovers
Diggs had only 3 INTs last season.
 

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The Cleveland owner will be hated for life by all the other owners for opening Pandora's Box with the Watson deal.

I don't care if Patrick Freaking Mahomes wants a guaranteed deal: KC owner would let him walk away before they had themselves blacklisted for life by the other owners by being the 2nd owner to do the guaranteed.

Not budging on the guaranteed thing...is more important to owners than any one single player....or single season for that matter. They know it's the equivalent of selling their souls
 

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The adults understand what a salary cap is
The adults understand value of position
The adults understand that running backs in their 2nd contract almost always underperform just like some corners are overrated because of interceptions but aren’t complete players

its not personal….just business

BTW, some here took the side of our Billionaire when he backed up the dump truck of cash at Dakotas house……they sure did , and continue to side with that Billionaire

Thus endeth the lesson.
I don't know why people think fans have some odd love for the owners. I couldn't give a rat's posterior for the owners or the players. I root for the team. And from a fan's perspective, guaranteed contracts would be bad for the cap situation. Especially when a player doesn't live up to the contract.

In general, everyone wants to get what they pay for, right? That's pretty much everyone. If you're not getting what you're paying for, do you want to continue paying?
 

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https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...eals-dak-prescott-zack-martin-guaranteed-camp

Cowboys BREAKING: Dallas Opens Trevon Diggs Contract Talks - Source; $81 Million CB?

Cowboys 'Not Fair' In Diggs Contract Talks? CB Wants 'Guaranteed' Deal?​

Former Dallas Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant reveals he has talked with cornerback Trevon Diggs through Diggs' extension talks with the team, and gave his thoughts on the situation

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Dallas Cowboys

DALLAS COWBOYS
The Dallas Cowboys have several key players due for new deals soon, with one of them being star corner Trevon Diggs.
Diggs and the Cowboys began extension talks in early June, as CowboysSI.com was first to report. But it's been relatively quiet since then. That is until former Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant decided to chime in.
Since exiting football a few years ago, Bryant has been very vocal about issues around the NFL and especially his beloved former team. It turns out that Bryant has been talking with Diggs throughout the corner's extension talks, and he revealed where they stand right now. Notably, Bryant had an interesting comment on how the Cowboys are handling the negotiations.

"I'll say this, he is not trying to knock them across the head, I will say that," Dez said via his Personal Corner Spaces. "And I will say they're not trying to be fair to him. And I feel like what he's asking for, he is rightfully deserving of that contract. You know, I believe it should all be guaranteed."
Lmao. So what’s he asking for that’s so deserving. Bryant got so bad JJ loved him and wouldn’t bring him back for what the saints paid him. Where he blew out something and never really played. He got hurt in the giants game while playing for us and never seemed to recover. Looked like the same tackle that Dak and Pollard and Elliot got hurt on.
 

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The Cleveland owner will be hated for life by all the other owners for opening Pandora's Box with the Watson deal.

I don't care if Patrick Freaking Mahomes wants a guaranteed deal: KC owner would let him walk away before they had themselves blacklisted for life by the other owners by being the 2nd owner to do the guaranteed.

Not budging on the guaranteed thing...is more important to owners than any one single player....or single season for that matter. They know it's the equivalent of selling their souls
Guaranteed money is in all deals. If they guarantee all the money then the money should be way less than what we see on these big money deals.
 

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https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...eals-dak-prescott-zack-martin-guaranteed-camp

Cowboys BREAKING: Dallas Opens Trevon Diggs Contract Talks - Source; $81 Million CB?

Cowboys 'Not Fair' In Diggs Contract Talks? CB Wants 'Guaranteed' Deal?​

Former Dallas Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant reveals he has talked with cornerback Trevon Diggs through Diggs' extension talks with the team, and gave his thoughts on the situation

In this story:​

Dallas Cowboys

DALLAS COWBOYS
The Dallas Cowboys have several key players due for new deals soon, with one of them being star corner Trevon Diggs.
Diggs and the Cowboys began extension talks in early June, as CowboysSI.com was first to report. But it's been relatively quiet since then. That is until former Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant decided to chime in.
Since exiting football a few years ago, Bryant has been very vocal about issues around the NFL and especially his beloved former team. It turns out that Bryant has been talking with Diggs throughout the corner's extension talks, and he revealed where they stand right now. Notably, Bryant had an interesting comment on how the Cowboys are handling the negotiations.

"I'll say this, he is not trying to knock them across the head, I will say that," Dez said via his Personal Corner Spaces. "And I will say they're not trying to be fair to him. And I feel like what he's asking for, he is rightfully deserving of that contract. You know, I believe it should all be guaranteed."
Figures those two would be buddies.

With out depth at corner and young talent I would be inclined to play hard ball with him. Even play a year on the franchise tag in order to gain leverage. Hoping that the younger guys take the next step.

Seeing as though Diggs seems rather inclined to avoid tackling these days. One could say he was as much a part of the Cowboys loss the the Niners as anyone.
 

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Guaranteed money is in all deals. If they guarantee all the money then the money should be way less than what we see on these big money deals.
Yeah I know every contract has guaranteed money.

I'm talking about the FULLY guaranteed contract.... like the one the Cleveland owner went rogue and broke rank on and gave to Watson, and damned his relationship with other owners forever because of it.

Jerruh Jones, the Eagles owner, and the SanFran owner sit around the bar drinking together thinking of ways to get revenge on the rat Cleveland owner
 

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I suspect they come to a common ground but if diggs wants his entire contract guaranteed, tell him to kick rocks and trade him for whatever draft capital they can
 

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Training camp is about to start and the chatter is about guys unhappy with their contracts. Bring on some practice videos to overanalyze.
 

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https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news...eals-dak-prescott-zack-martin-guaranteed-camp

Cowboys BREAKING: Dallas Opens Trevon Diggs Contract Talks - Source; $81 Million CB?

Cowboys 'Not Fair' In Diggs Contract Talks? CB Wants 'Guaranteed' Deal?​

Former Dallas Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant reveals he has talked with cornerback Trevon Diggs through Diggs' extension talks with the team, and gave his thoughts on the situation

In this story:​

Dallas Cowboys

DALLAS COWBOYS
The Dallas Cowboys have several key players due for new deals soon, with one of them being star corner Trevon Diggs.
Diggs and the Cowboys began extension talks in early June, as CowboysSI.com was first to report. But it's been relatively quiet since then. That is until former Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant decided to chime in.
Since exiting football a few years ago, Bryant has been very vocal about issues around the NFL and especially his beloved former team. It turns out that Bryant has been talking with Diggs throughout the corner's extension talks, and he revealed where they stand right now. Notably, Bryant had an interesting comment on how the Cowboys are handling the negotiations.

"I'll say this, he is not trying to knock them across the head, I will say that," Dez said via his Personal Corner Spaces. "And I will say they're not trying to be fair to him. And I feel like what he's asking for, he is rightfully deserving of that contract. You know, I believe it should all be guaranteed."
Can't sign a player to a long-term contact if that player thinks his FETUS TACKLING STYLE works in the NFL.
 

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I see a lot of corporate boot lickers all over here. Then trying to compare your life to theirs. Newsflash, they trained and worked all their life to get the leverage they can. No, your desk job isn't the same and making those comparisons are ignorant.
You live vicariously through players, and have a false view of the situation. You think players should make 100x more than a Fedex truck driver or sales person or teacher?

I despise the owners, but I also have zero support for higher salaries.

Whether it's Zack or Diggs makes no difference to me. The higher salaries will get paid by one thing: higher ticket prices and more TV commercials. Screw that.

Screw the owners. Screw the players demands. Long live the fan.
 
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