Cowboys plan to sign will Allen instead of Huff

[Denim Chicken]

Kenny V. would immediately solidify our defensive backfield.

We know about a much about Kenny V. in the NFL as we do about Matt J.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

We know about a much about Kenny V. in the NFL as we do about Matt J.

You could say that about any prospect, so that's an absurd comment when discussing how we think a draft pick will impact a team.

 

[Denim Chicken]

You could say that about any prospect, so that's an absurd comment when discussing how we think a draft pick will impact a team.

I suppose you could say the same thing about saying a rookie will 'solidify our backfield".

 

[Doomsday101]

Well Safety is not our biggest need. when i watch the 2012 Dallas cowboys i see an OL that failed to protect Romo consistently, failed to run block for anything more than a 2 yard gain...I also saw a DL that got zero push, couldn't collaspe a pocket, and got zero pressure on the QB.

Safety is not the greatest need. The greatest need is line play. Safety is a flash pick, sexy pick that makes everyone think championship, but it will only get us 8-8 and wanting to fire a very good coach.

I would say OL,DL and Safety if I can get a top player at any of those position in rd 1 I would be happy. I don't turn my nose up at getting a quality player. I hope we can address all 3 with the BPA within the 1st 3 to 4 rds of the draft.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Um, not when I clarify that a statement is just my opinion (as I did). Under your ridiculous philosophy, message boards should not exist because, well, I guess in your world people shouldn't have opinions about uncertain topics (even though uncertainty is the only reason opinions even exist).

Drivel, but we're digressing.

We have Church, who looked good before injury. We have Johnson who coaches are high on. We now have Allen, who is serviceable back-up, as well as McCray. We have $50M Carr and #1 & 2 of last years picks in Clay and Scandrick, who has a sizable contract.

All this invested in the backfield and we want to give up our #1 this year as well?

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Well Safety is not our biggest need. when i watch the 2012 Dallas cowboys i see an OL that failed to protect Romo consistently, failed to run block for anything more than a 2 yard gain...I also saw a DL that got zero push, couldn't collaspe a pocket, and got zero pressure on the QB.

Safety is not the greatest need. The greatest need is line play. Safety is a flash pick, sexy pick that makes everyone think championship, but it will only get us 8-8 and wanting to fire a very good coach.

This. Dallas needs meat on either line. Safety would just be gravy.

 

[Doomsday101]

This. Dallas needs meat on either line. Safety would just be gravy.

and if the gravy is great then it is good. Dallas needs quality players more than anything yes DL and OL need to be addressed and so does safety the defense stunk last season and while we do have church he is coming off an injury and we have Johnson which also injured and has not seen any time so there is some uncertainty. I'm all for getting OL but if they do not get that in the 1st rd that does not mean it can't be addressed within the 1st 3 rd of the draft. Funny we all talk about the great OL of the 90s yet not a single 1st rd pick out of the bunch. Step was a 3rd rd pick, Allen a 2nd, Eric Williams a 3rd and Tuinie and Newton undrafted hell Newton was cut from the Commanders his rookie year after not getting drafted.


I'm all for OL or DL in rd 1 but I would have no issue getting a top safety either.

 

[dargonking999]

Define what you mean by "need." At least we have the bodies to fill out a two-deep at the line. Besides, fixing the line won't be accomplished by picking a first round guard, whereas Kenny V. would immediately solidify our defensive backfield.

masking an opinion as fact does not make it true. Having bodies to fill out a line, and having players that can actually play at an above average level or two entirely different things.

 

[Western]

This. Dallas needs meat on either line. Safety would just be gravy.

I echo this statement.

 

[Teague31]

If signed as depth it's fine, if signed as a starter it's a disaster.

 

[snapper]

This. Dallas needs meat on either line. Safety would just be gravy.

Make that prime rib and aus jus!

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Sweet! A guy who hasn't had an interception since the middle of last decade and who's averaged a fraction of a pass breakup per year since then.

He'll fit right in..

 

[Kristen82]

Sweet! A guy who hasn't had an interception since the middle of last decade and who's averaged a fraction of a pass breakup per year since then.

He'll fit right in..

Well he is a SS, and they generally don't make as many plays as FS's do just because of the difference in their responsibilities.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Well he is a SS, and they generally don't make as many plays as FS's do just because of the difference in their responsibilities.

Safeties in this NFL are interchangable. The difference between SS and FS is minimal anymore, and plus, its not like he does much else either. He's averaged like 20 total tackles PER YEAR since 2006 and has yet to record a sack in his professional career.

Any one of these stats in an of itself? Not a huge deal.

Put together.. you have one pretty marginal player. If he starts for us, get worried.

PS.. nice vette. : )

 

[Kristen82]

Safeties in this NFL are interchangable. The difference between SS and FS is minimal anymore, and plus, its not like he does much else either. He's averaged like 20 total tackles PER YEAR since 2006 and has yet to record a sack in his professional career.

Any one of these stats in an of itself? Not a huge deal.

Put together.. you have one pretty marginal player. If he starts for us, get worried.

PS.. nice vette. : )

I'm just assuming Allen is a SS because he doesn't have the typical range of a FS.

And merci. It's smiling because you complimented it .

 

[Risen Star]

I'm not looking at needs, though the OL is certainly a bigger need than S. I'm talking about best player available at 18. That won't be Vaccaro for me.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

I'm not looking at needs, though the OL is certainly a bigger need than S. I'm talking about best player available at 18. That won't be Vaccaro for me.

Well I certainly agree, Vaccaro was routinely burned in Man to Man coverage in College, sucked at zone and was replaced in some key situations for UT.

Though he kind of reminds me of Patrick Chung, pass @ 18.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Safeties in this NFL are interchangable. The difference between SS and FS is minimal anymore, and plus, its not like he does much else either. He's averaged like 20 total tackles PER YEAR since 2006 and has yet to record a sack in his professional career.

Any one of these stats in an of itself? Not a huge deal.

Put together.. you have one pretty marginal player. If he starts for us, get worried.

PS.. nice vette. : )

Exactly. We missed the boat on Huff big time.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Well I certainly agree, Vaccaro was routinely burned in Man to Man coverage in College, sucked at zone and was replaced in some key situations for UT.

Though he kind of reminds me of Patrick Chung, pass @ 18.

Vaccoro is good. He'll just need a bit of time to adjust to the NFL. Huff was better coming out of college though.