Cowboys players and fans singing different Zeke tune

[T-RO]

To many Cowboys fans Zeke is a victim of a league office that is out of control...spearheaded by a commissioner with a singular vendetta to destroy the Cowboys and steal joy from their fans.

In contrast, when I listen to past and present players...the portrayal of Zeke is certainly not one of a victim but rather as a young man at a crossroads, in serious need of a course correction.

Aikman, Haley, Emmitt have had some sober words about Zeke's behavior and a need for change. Jason Witten, a team captain, was understandably cautious in his comments but you could certainly see Wit's focus was not on how the NFL conducted their investigation, but on how Elliott is conducting his life.

The concerns seem perhaps even more intense with some inside the Cowboys organization.

One Cowboys front office member said, "This guy is a total diva. It’s going to be a miracle if he doesn’t get into any trouble."*

I'm far from any fan of Roger G and the gang running the league. They've certainly botched up (again) in their handling of the Zeke case. But I suggest fans might consider shifting the narrative.

Specifically...Focusing on Zeke living smarter and living better. Given the way things are going...Zeke is putting himself at risk of losing everything...his sport, his finances....possibly even his freedom or his life.


*Quote from Star Telegram

 

[windjc]

To many Cowboys fans Zeke is a victim of a league office that is out of control...spearheaded by a commissioner with a singular vendetta to destroy the Cowboys and steal joy from their fans.

In contrast, when I listen to past and present players...the portrayal of Zeke is certainly not one of a victim but rather as a young man at a crossroads, in serious need of a course correction.

Aikman, Haley, Emmitt have had some sober words about Zeke's behavior and a need for change. Jason Witten, a team captain, was understandably cautious in his comments but you could certainly see Wit's focus was not on how the NFL conducted their investigation, but on how Elliott is conducting his life.

The concerns seem perhaps even more intense with some inside the Cowboys organization.

One Cowboys front office member said, "This guy is a total diva. It’s going to be a miracle if he doesn’t get into any trouble."*

I'm far from any fan of Roger G and the gang running the league. They've certainly botched up (again) in their handling of the Zeke case. But I suggest fans might consider shifting the narrative.

Specifically...Focusing on Zeke living smarter and living better. Given the way things are going...Zeke is putting himself at risk of losing everything...his sport, his finances....possibly even his freedom or his life.


*Quote from Star Telegram

Overreact much?

 

[lockster]

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To many Cowboys fans Zeke is a victim of a league office that is out of control...spearheaded by a commissioner with a singular vendetta to destroy the Cowboys and steal joy from their fans.

In contrast, when I listen to past and present players...the portrayal of Zeke is certainly not one of a victim but rather as a young man at a crossroads, in serious need of a course correction.

Aikman, Haley, Emmitt have had some sober words about Zeke's behavior and a need for change. Jason Witten, a team captain, was understandably cautious in his comments but you could certainly see Wit's focus was not on how the NFL conducted their investigation, but on how Elliott is conducting his life.

The concerns seem perhaps even more intense with some inside the Cowboys organization.

One Cowboys front office member said, "This guy is a total diva. It’s going to be a miracle if he doesn’t get into any trouble."*

I'm far from any fan of Roger G and the gang running the league. They've certainly botched up (again) in their handling of the Zeke case. But I suggest fans might consider shifting the narrative.

Specifically...Focusing on Zeke living smarter and living better. Given the way things are going...Zeke is putting himself at risk of losing everything...his sport, his finances....possibly even his freedom or his life.


*Quote from Star Telegram

scenario is this, off the field behavior isn't their business at all, especially from a moral stand point because they aren't any better, and make money off immorality. Secondly, since the players union sold out the players on this issue, seek needs to behave himself for the sake of himself, his team, the fans, and his friends and family. Both sides need to change. End of discussion lol

 

[Idgit]

I'm not a big fan of Zeke's, personally. I didn't want to spend that high pick on offense, or on a RB, and I don't think he's particularly funny. He definitely has a ton of growing up to do, and the stories about his party habits are out there predating his time in the NFL.

But the players pretty much uniformly also say he's a good guy and imply he's got some growing up to do. I think that's also probably the case. In Witten's case in particular, he has to be careful because he's a very public spokesperson for DV issues. He can't appear to be putting those aside out of convenience for a teammate.

Regardless, Goodell has botched this entire process, and the suspension is a clown-act. The league deserves what's coming to it since they keep inviting criticism with their inconsistent enforcement of penalties and their creative interpretation of available facts.

 

[Melonfeud]

Elliott is a pretty high profile player,and the cumulative effect of past indiscretions ,Factual or perceived shouldn't be overlooked when those concerned about his longevity and availability to play along with his overall general wellbeing but I'd still have just as big of problem with the penalty and the criminal labeling were it some rotational tight end/line backer ,you know T-RO he's not been convicted as a criminal woman beater in a court of law yet he's being awarded that label and being punished as such,,,that's where I've the problem with this selective
cluster ****.

 

[T-RO]

Overreact much?

If anything my comments were too tempered and understated.

We've had enough Cowboys see their careers cut back or cut short because of bad choices. And worse we've seen some find their way into prison or die way before their time.

Dwayne Goodrich...vehicular manslaughter...runs over two guys trying to pull someone from burning car. Goodrich was going 110.

Other instances where crazy speeding and/or the night life didn't turn out so well: Erik Williams, Sam Hurd, Joseph Randle, Mark Tuinei, Josh Brent, Jerry Brown.

It's pretty hard to get into 4 car crashes in a couple of years yet Zeke has done exactly that. He's also been busted for going 100. I think it's safe to say there's been a lot more craziness with Zeke behind the wheel we don't know about.

Zeke's known to hit the bottle damn hard and taken an interest in a drug that though it should be legalized...consuming it could wipe out another career year via suspension.

His conduct with women is...at the very least lacking judgment. He's been at the epicenter of considerable trouble.

What part of a 6 game suspension--and threats of a lifetime ban-- fails to register w/you as important?

 

[windjc]

If anything my comments were too tempered and understated.

We've had enough Cowboys see their careers cut back or cut short because of bad choices. And worse we've seen some find their way into prison or die way before their time.

Dwayne Goodrich...vehicular manslaughter...runs over two guys trying to pull someone from burning car. Goodrich was going 110.

Other instances where crazy speeding and/or the night life didn't turn out so well: Erik Williams, Sam Hurd, Joseph Randle, Mark Tuinei, Josh Brent, Jerry Brown.

It's pretty hard to get into 4 car crashes in a couple of years yet Zeke has done exactly that. He's also been busted for going 100. I think it's safe to say there's been a lot more craziness with Zeke behind the wheel we don't know about.

Zeke's known to hit the bottle damn hard and taken an interest in a drug that though it should be legalized...consuming it could wipe out another career year via suspension.

His conduct with women is...at the very least questionable. He's been at the epicenter of considerable trouble.

What part of a 6 game suspension--and threats of a lifetime ban-- fails to register w/you as important?

Please show us the evidence that he drinks heavily and smokes pot.

 

[T-RO]

Please show us the evidence that he drinks heavily and smokes pot.

Why go to a pot shop if you aren't a smoker? And why do so when you know you are already under extra scrutiny and investigation!? Zeke's texts to a friend conveys he was worried about a drug test. Again I don't have strong views against pot at all. But for now it's the law in many states...and while in many states it's winked at...the NFL chooses not to.

Reports are widespread that he parties long, hard and frequently. I wouldn't much care so much about that if that weren't combined with his history behind a wheel, his penchant for finding himself in the wrong situation and his seeming zeal for risk.

 

[JBS]

It took Dez a while to mature to the point he is at right now...the were many, many people on here that were ready to sever ties and cut Dez at one point..I'm going to go ahead and predict things Zeke will probably have a similar path..I can't see him turning his life around just yet ...we can only hope the end product of Zeke is similar to Dez...

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Why go to a pot shop if you aren't a smoker? And why do so when you know you are already under extra scrutiny and investigation!? Zeke's texts to a friend conveys he was worried about a drug test. Again I don't have strong views against pot at all. But for now it's the law in many states...and while in many states it's winked at...the NFL chooses not to.

Reports are widespread that he parties long, hard and frequently. I wouldn't much care so much about that if that weren't combined with his history behind a wheel, his penchant for finding himself in the wrong situation and his seeming zeal for risk.

Maybe because he wanted to see what the inside of one was.

 

[Sydla]

To many Cowboys fans Zeke is a victim of a league office that is out of control...spearheaded by a commissioner with a singular vendetta to destroy the Cowboys and steal joy from their fans.

In contrast, when I listen to past and present players...the portrayal of Zeke is certainly not one of a victim but rather as a young man at a crossroads, in serious need of a course correction.

Aikman, Haley, Emmitt have had some sober words about Zeke's behavior and a need for change. Jason Witten, a team captain, was understandably cautious in his comments but you could certainly see Wit's focus was not on how the NFL conducted their investigation, but on how Elliott is conducting his life.

The concerns seem perhaps even more intense with some inside the Cowboys organization.

One Cowboys front office member said, "This guy is a total diva. It’s going to be a miracle if he doesn’t get into any trouble."*

I'm far from any fan of Roger G and the gang running the league. They've certainly botched up (again) in their handling of the Zeke case. But I suggest fans might consider shifting the narrative.

Specifically...Focusing on Zeke living smarter and living better. Given the way things are going...Zeke is putting himself at risk of losing everything...his sport, his finances....possibly even his freedom or his life.


*Quote from Star Telegram

For one, I suspect Aikman and Emmitt know more about the dumb stuff that Elliott does off the field that we the fans don't know about. As I said before, the guy is a total clown and knucklehead. It's not a coincidence or bad luck that he keeps finding him in trouble. I am guessing there are more bar incidents, etc. that have not made it to the press.

He absolutely needs to clean up his act, even if wasn't embroiled in this DV case.

That being said, one cannot make the leap from him being a partier who doesn't act maturely to a guy who beats women. That's a large leap in logic.

I also will be the first to rip the Cowboys to high heaven if Elliott just turns out to be a problem child. There were red flags on this kid in college. From a team perspective, it will be on Jerry and Stephen and McClay and Garrett if this ends up poorly.

 

[Sydla]

Maybe because he wanted to see what the inside of one was.

LOL. Yeah that's it.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

LOL. Yeah that's it.

Did he buy anything?

 

[LittleD]

To many Cowboys fans Zeke is a victim of a league office that is out of control...spearheaded by a commissioner with a singular vendetta to destroy the Cowboys and steal joy from their fans.

In contrast, when I listen to past and present players...the portrayal of Zeke is certainly not one of a victim but rather as a young man at a crossroads, in serious need of a course correction.

Aikman, Haley, Emmitt have had some sober words about Zeke's behavior and a need for change. Jason Witten, a team captain, was understandably cautious in his comments but you could certainly see Wit's focus was not on how the NFL conducted their investigation, but on how Elliott is conducting his life.

The concerns seem perhaps even more intense with some inside the Cowboys organization.

One Cowboys front office member said, "This guy is a total diva. It’s going to be a miracle if he doesn’t get into any trouble."*

I'm far from any fan of Roger G and the gang running the league. They've certainly botched up (again) in their handling of the Zeke case. But I suggest fans might consider shifting the narrative.

Specifically...Focusing on Zeke living smarter and living better. Given the way things are going...Zeke is putting himself at risk of losing everything...his sport, his finances....possibly even his freedom or his life.


*Quote from Star Telegram

In the final analysis, it will be up to Zeke whether he can mature fast enough to overcome his entitled persona. He will pay the price and consequences of his future actions just like everyone else. He's in the constant TMZ lens so if he can't adapt, he will find himself out of the league and probably in jail somewhere.

 

[Sydla]

Did he buy anything?

No idea.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

No idea.

But people pretending Elliott doesn't smoke pot are naïve.

More people should open their minds.

 

[Silver N Blue]

So its against the law to party now? While I don't condone his actions I was far from perfect as a young 19-22 year old while living abroad while I was in the Army. Looking back I made some really really stupid decisions back then and I was in the military...which is a greater employer than the Cowboys with more consequences than playing a professional sport...did it stop me..nope..I felt invincible with my brothers as we did things on our "off" time unquestionable as a military employee....very very dumb very very stupid but his age and the money he has you don't think he feels the same way. He needs to grow up and grow up quickly. I'm lucky I grew up in a time where there wasn't a constant video streaming on my day to day wear a bouts. There were girls there was partying there was bar fights...ask my brothers and sisters what it is like to serve over seas...girls are lined up waiting for you cause they want the chance to come home with you...this is not some fabrication or some plea to tell you Zeke is innocent. The one area I cannot relate to Zeke is the allegation. For me personally I could never fathom a moment where violence towards a woman is warranted. I don't respect a man or boy who lives this way or conducts himself this way. If he is guilty of physically harming this woman he should be punished for that and that alone. He shouldn't be admonished for his "partying" lifestyle as a 18-22 year old boy growing up. Do I really have to list all the players who have had issues growing up. Some people are going to go through this some will learn and grow up some will continue down this path of destruction and forever will wonder what could have been. Lucky for me I wised up and could see the path and got on my knees and righted the ship. I think this is Witten's message to Zeke. I hope the kid does wise up and I hope he realizes he can get on his knees and right his own ship regarding this allegation. As for the partying, bar fight, and speeding...good gosh he is a young man with many temptations coming from every direction at this point in his life. Cast not the first stone...when you point at someone there are three pointed right back at you...we've heard them all before....it sucks as a cowboys fan having to hear this crap and jokes from other fans and sitting here with another potential year flushed down the drain..if he is guilty this will impact the mentality of this teams makeup and we can only hope for the best....but as we go through yet another valley in this forever never ending twenty year period..be mad at the kid for the allegation...don't be mad at him or punish him further for what in this country is pretty typical behavior for a young man trying to figure out his path in life.

 

[Jake]

To many Cowboys fans Zeke is a victim of a league office that is out of control...spearheaded by a commissioner with a singular vendetta to destroy the Cowboys and steal joy from their fans.

More like a vocal minority who think the NFL is out to get their team, which every fan base has whenever one of their own gets suspended.

 

[The Quest for Six]

Did he buy anything?

Heard on the radio this morning that there were messages on his phone from Zeke to his girlfriend stating how he can get past the NFL drug testing.....now I don't know if that's true or not but if there are those type of messages, why would he need to send messages like that if he didn't use.....

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Heard on the radio this morning that there were messages on his phone from Zeke to his girlfriend stating how he can get past the NFL drug testing.....now I don't know if that's true or not but if there are those type of messages, why would he need to send messages like that if he didn't use.....

Marijuana isn't the only substances banned by the NFL.