RELEASED Cowboys Release DE Damontre Moore

[Stash]

Yes. They did. They took a player with a prime draft pick that has an extensive knee injury in Smith.

It's not exactly shocking, or even bad logic, to then not want to take on another huge injury risk with another prime pick. Because in that scenario, they could now have two guys on their roster who they never get value out of if both get hurt (or in Smith's case, never come back). It was too big a risk for them.

I am not sure why this is such a difficult concept to understand.

Because it's a damn stupid concept, that's why. And those are never easy to understand, or accept.

Take a guy who was injured and might never play again, but avoid the one that made a full recovery.

Asinine.

 

[Stash]

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[Sydla]

Because it's a damn stupid concept, that's why. And those are never easy to understand, or accept.

Take a guy who was injured and might never play again, but avoid the one that made a full recovery.

Asinine.

See, now you are minimizing it. The guy didn't just come off one random knee injury and make a recovery.

He's had FOUR ligament tears, two in each knee. The last two, he had surgery to try to repair them because he has a genetic issue that affected his ligaments.

So to act like he's just some guy who had a random ACL tear and is now back healthy is kind of underselling what really is going on with him.

 

[jjktkk]

They took another guy who had a catastrophic injury and might possibly have never played again in Jaylon Smith at pick 34. And now they're going to be scared to draft TJ Watt at 28, who not only recovered from his injuries, but did so well enough to have 11.5 sacks in his final year in college?

Sorry, that's not "rational" whatsoever. Not even close.

The rationale is the Cowboy's team doctor performed the surgery on Smith and I'm sure advised Jerry on the risk involved.

 

[Stash]

See, now you are minimizing it. The guy didn't just come off one random knee injury and make a recovery.

He's had FOUR ligament tears, two in each knee. The last two, he had surgery to try to repair them because he has a genetic issue that affected his ligaments.

So to act like he's just some guy who had a random ACL tear and is now back healthy is kind of underselling what really is going on with him.

He's "healthy" enough to have recorded 11.5 sacks last year.

And "healthy" enough to have 4 already in his pro career.

That's "healthier" than anything Charlton is doing.

 

[Stash]

The rationale is the Cowboy's team doctor performed the surgery on Smith and I'm sure advised Jerry on the risk involved.

He definitely did, but the reissue was still there. A much bigger risk than with Watt, a guy who showed he was fully recovered on the field.

 

[Sydla]

He's "healthy" enough to have recorded 11.5 sacks last year.

And "healthy" enough to have 4 already in his pro career.

That's "healthier" than anything Charlton is doing.

He's also a much, much, much, much higher risk of reinjuring that knee than normal players largely because he has a genetic issue that makes him susceptible to ligament damage and why he had surgery to try to help the problem.

You can continue to act like it's no big deal, but that would be silly.

And don't make this about Charlton versus Watt when talking to me. I wouldn't have taken either of them if I were pulling the trigger there.

 

[jjktkk]

He definitely did, but the reissue was still there. A much bigger risk than with Watt, a guy who showed he was fully recovered on the field.

Watt did have medical concerns, as well as being small for a 4-3 DE. That's two legitimate reasons the Cowboy's might of had for not wanting to draft Watt.

 

[Stash]

He's also a much, much, much, much higher risk of reinjuring that knee than normal players largely because he has a genetic issue that makes him susceptible to ligament damage and why he had surgery to try to help the problem.

And you just said it yourself, he had surgery to correct the problem.

You can continue to act like it's no big deal, but that would be silly.

I'm nit saying it's a non-factor, but it's "silly" to worry about it with Watt when he's fully recovered after you took that huge risk on Jaylon Smith.

And don't make this about Charlton versus Watt when talking to me. I wouldn't have taken either of them if I were pulling the trigger there.

Nit directing that at yiunsoecifically, just at the how the two players were both available and their careers are now joined going forward in terms of the Cowboys. They had a choice to make and they made it.

Who was your guy this year?

 

[Stash]

Watt did have medical concerns, as well as being small for a 4-3 DE. That's two legitimate reasons the Cowboy's might of had for not wanting to draft Watt.

They're "reasons". Just not sure they're good ones. Especially based on current results.

 

[Sydla]

And you just said it yourself, he had surgery to correct the problem.



I'm nit saying it's a non-factor, but it's "silly" to worry about it with Watt when he's fully recovered after you took that huge risk on Jaylon Smith.



Nit directing that at yiunsoecifically, just at the how the two players were both available and their careers are now joined going forward in terms of the Cowboys. They had a choice to make and they made it.

Who was your guy this year?

The surgery was an attempt to fix the issue but he apparently still carries a significantly higher risk of injury than normal.

Ideally, I would have traded the pick at that point. I was not a huge fan of the options at that point. I had been praying like hell Barnett or even Peppers was going to slip to us. But gun to head, I would have preferred King, Baker, even the TE from Miami.

If I were inclined to take a chance on a guy that scared me from an injury perspective, I'd have taken Ruben Foster there too, but like Watt, he kind of scared me from an injury and usage perspective and I wanted no part of him.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think they are squandering a year of a potentially amazing offense (Dak, Zeke, Dez, and the O-line). It was a gross misjudgment. Claiborne, Church, and Carr are all playing well and the guys we signed to replace them are unemployed. Completely mishandled.

But they didn't play well here. That would've been a gross misjudgement.

 

[Beast_from_East]

EPIC FAIL

And people wonder why the only teams we beat are the ones with losing records

 

[Oh_Canada]

EPIC FAIL

And people wonder why the only teams we beat are the ones with losing records

Not that epic. All three were brought in to bridge or backup.

 

[Sydla]

Not that epic. All three were brought in to bridge or backup.

Paea and Carroll were brought into start. Further, for Paea, there is no young stud in the pipeline that Paea is just holding a spot for at the 1 tech. Paea was typical of how the team handles the 1 tech. Cheap, cheap, cheap.

Carroll was a guy they tried to sign for two straight years. They didn't think he was a backup. They thought he could actually play. He couldn't.

Epic is a strong word. So maybe not epic fail. But fail, nonetheless.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Just blows my mind how Kellen Moore is like a case of herpes that won't go away.

That must be roughj. Have you tried the new medication on the market?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Tells you something when Charlton is still on the active roster.

No way is the FO admitting defeat, mid season, on a No. 1 draft pick. It just is not done.

 

[xwalker]

He is in Buffalo now and he is a key member of their defense.

Yes, my point is that it was not overtly obvious that he was anything more than average.

He was not even a full-time starter in GB.

 

[Alexander]

Yes, my point is that it was not overtly obvious that he was anything more than average.

He was not even a full-time starter in GB.

Stephen Jones has stated that he feels FA is bad because you pay good players like they are great, average players like they are good, below average like they are average.

Well, we paid three below average players like they were average. He violated his own principle.

 

[Stash]

Stephen Jones has stated that he feels FA is bad because you pay good players like they are great, average players like they are good, below average like they are average.

Well, we paid three below average players like they were average. He violated his own principle.

Can you clear this up on Cedric Thonrton?

Was his pay average and he was below average?

Or was he average and his pay was above average?

Or was he below average and paid above average?

I'm just not sure!