RELEASED Cowboys Release DE Damontre Moore

GhostOfPelluer

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Except that's again an exaggeration. Hyde is not overpaid for his position and how well he plays, for example. Look at someone like Alshon Jeffrey. He's on a pretty good one year deal in Philly. Given what top WRs get, he's not overpaid.

You try to set these absolutes and they keep blowing up in your face.
Hyde is your pet cherry pick. I get it, one worked, so they all must work. Jeffrey is making 9.5 million and is the third-leading receiver (by yards and TDs) on his team. He's on pace for 800 yards and 4TD. For the bargain price of nearly $10 million. Thanks for bringing up someone who proves my point.
 

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Wait. What? There is no room on the roster for an unproductive knucklehead?
 

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He got $3 million in a guaranteed bonus and a $1 million salary for a 2017 season he won't play. That says $4 million.



And he'd still be a monumentally better investment than Nolan Carroll. Even if he got injured for the season today.

That's the point. The Carroll mistake was so bad, that a player has to do almost nothing to look great by comparison.
You are arguing with yourself on whether Carroll was a good signing or not. I never made that claim. As for Carroll, $2 million cap hit this year. $2million next year. Like I said, $2 million/year.
 

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Hyde is your pet cherry pick. I get it, one worked, so they all must work. Jeffrey is making 9.5 million and is the third-leading receiver (by yards and TDs) on his team. He's on pace for 800 yards and 4TD. For the bargain price of nearly $10 million. Thanks for bringing up someone who proves my point.

He's a key reason the Eagles offense has done so well. He's helped free up Algholor in the slot who is having a nice year as well as helping Ertz.

9.5MM for Jeffrey for one year is very smart and shrewd deal. It's helping them this year and they have no cap implications long term.
 

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He must have not performed well enough against the run or he did something the team didn’t like off the field.

Or he just didn't make much of an impact on the field period. He's a veteran who wasn't doing much with the opportunities he was given so there was little reason to keep him around.
 

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Only $8M? That is some serious money.
In hindsight, yeah it would have been much better to sign Poe and none of the others. But at the time, the team needed DBs first to cover for the loss of Church, Claiborne, and Carr.

I disagree that it's serious money. 8 Mil is 6% of the effective cap (after accounting for dead money), and you get an impact player on the DL.

That said, it is a bit of hindsight to pine for Poe for that contract. I wanted him before the season, but at least on a 4 yr contract.
 

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You are arguing with yourself on whether Carroll was a good signing or not. I never made that claim. As for Carroll, $2 million cap hit this year. $2million next year. Like I said, $2 million/year.

No but you're expending great effort in a futile attempt to lessen how bad it was. Save the effort. Everybody can see for themselves.

$4 million overall, one year or two. Makes no difference when you can roll money over.

$4 million for one game.

And now you have a hole at cornerback and look to be stuck giving Cincinnati a 6th round pick for Bene Benwikere, who they keep off the field at all costs.

Some serious failure there.
 

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He's a key reason the Eagles offense has done so well. He's helped free up Algholor in the slot who is having a nice year as well as helping Ertz.

9.5MM for Jeffrey for one year is very smart and shrewd deal. It's helping them this year and they have no cap implications long term.
Jeffrey is a solid player. He's not a $10 million/year guy and it's showing.
 

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No but you're expending great effort in a futile attempt to lessen how bad it was. Save the effort. Everybody can see for themselves.

$4 million overall, one year or two. Makes no difference when you can roll money over.

$4 million for one game.

And now you have a hole at cornerback and look to be stuck giving Cincinnati a 6th round pick for Bene Benwikere, who they keep off the field at all costs.

Some serious failure there.
All that matters to me is cap money because that's what impacts the construction of the team. I don't care if Jerry gives a hooker $20 million to play no games.
 

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Yes, because that was their only option. Only sign back the players like Carr, Claiborne, McClain, etc.

The front office apologists can't even debate in good faith anymore.
I see Claiborne is on the weekly injury report. again.
 

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I guess the 40-10 SF beat down yesterday was just enough to keep the front office haters at bay for about 24 hours. Haters gonna hate.

I expected a lot of front office hate today for drafting Taco over ... wait for it ...wait for it ... TJ Watt (or insert whatever name drafted after him). I didn't expect so much vitriol over fringe, cheap FA signing cuts who, in truth , no one really misses. Some Poe-rueage (11 tackles - 7 solo, 4 assists and 0 sacks in 6 games for Atlanta). Yeah, I want to pay $8M/yr for that type of production.

Many defended the FA signings during FA season and during camp. I thought the signings were good at the time and Moore played well in preseason.

It was a poor FA class overall for all teams. But, seriously, was anyone really expecting Moore, Paea, Carroll, Blanton, etc. to carry the team? I laugh at those touting Claiborne and Carr. Miami with Moore at Qb lit up the Jets secondary. I watch redzone and didn't see the whole Jets-Mia game but I didn't see Claiborne making many plays. Carr looked all-world against Clev and Cinci to open the season. Not much since.
 

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This off-season may go down as one of the worst mishandling's in Front Office history. We did not do much at all to improve on a 13-3 team.

I totally disagree. The big debacle is giving premium contracts to old players on the downside of their career.

With our willingness to turn the page w/youth we added talent and acquired 3 extra compensatory draft picks.
 
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