bbgun;2500418 said:The competition at center must really suck this year.
Perfect example on why the Pro Bowl isn't held in high regard anymore!!Fan voting for Pro Bowl ends up having a distinct Commanders slant
Associated Press
ASHBURN, Va. -- The Washington Commanders won the fan Pro Bowl voting in nine of 19 positions for the NFC, the result of an aggressive marketing campaign that paid dividends even for the lowest rated kicker in the league.
Tallies released by the league Thursday show the Commanders on top where serious Pro Bowl consideration is deserved (middle linebacker London Fletcher) and where it's not (kicker Shaun Suisham, who leads the NFL in missed field goals).
New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees received the most votes overall, followed by New York Jets quarterback Brett Favre and New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning. But two Commanders were in the top 10: running back Clinton Portis (fourth) and tight end Chris Cooley (10th).
Cooley didn't win his position, though, finishing behind Jason Witten of the Dallas Cowboys.
Other Commanders who finished first at their position include fullback Mike Sellers, tackle Chris Samuels, defensive tackle Cornelius Griffin, strong safety Chris Horton, free safety LaRon Landry and special teams player Khary Campbell.
Washington's "Vote the Commanders Ticket" campaign was so successful that the league sent an e-mail to the 31 other teams last month pointing out that Washington players were leading in 16 of 19 positions and that it would be a good time to "promote Pro Bowl voting to your fans."
The publicity over an impending Commanders landslide appeared to create enough of a backlash for seven players to lose their leads, but the final results are still dominated by a team that is 7-6 and has lost four of five. The Giants, who have the best record in the conference, won the voting in only four positions.
Fan balloting, which ended Tuesday, counts for one-third of the total Pro Bowl voting. Coaches and players, who have yet to be polled, each count for one-third.
The Pro Bowl teams are announced Dec. 16.
Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press
Doomsday101;2501437 said:In my opinion I would rather coaches and players choose the pro bowl team. I think it means more to be picked by your peers than it does by fans who stuff the ballot box.
joseephuss;2501495 said:You would think so, but it doesn't. The coaches and players do vote on the pro-bowl and they don't always choose the most deserving players. I have read stories about how many of the guys don't take the voting seriously. They vote based on name recognition and not on current performance.
joseephuss;2501495 said:You would think so, but it doesn't. The coaches and players do vote on the pro-bowl and they don't always choose the most deserving players. I have read stories about how many of the guys don't take the voting seriously. They vote based on name recognition and not on current performance.
Of course he earned it that year. I was saying he was snubbed this year--that missing 3 games shouldn't have hurt him. There are many examples of QB's who missed 3-5 games and went to Pro Bowls.nyc;2500138 said:In only 10 games in 2006, he was 15th in yards (2903) 5th in QB rating (95.1), 11th in TD (19), 1st in YPA (8.61), 2nd in completion % (65.3%), and 2nd in TD% (5.3%)
They didn't just give it to him that year.
I'd be willing to bet that 6 sub-70 games are a first for a Pro Bowler. Brees' other accomplishments include 5 games when he threw more picks than TD's, and a 1-6 road record.joseephuss;2500182 said:Brees has played 6 games where his QB rating was less than 70, which is less than mediocre.
percyhoward;2501650 said:I'd be willing to bet that 6 sub-70 games are a first for a Pro Bowler. Brees' other accomplishments include 5 games when he threw more picks than TD's, and a 1-6 road record.
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but those all have to be new lows for Pro Bowl QB's, even alternates.
TheCount;2500299 said:IF that's your argument D'Qwell Jackson of the infamous Cleveland Browns has 136 tackles, 2 sacks and 3 ints and he isn't going to the Pro Bowl in the AFC. Is Jackson better than both Bradie and Beason then?
The voters obviously let the records of the Cowboys vs Panthers influence them.
In the AFC, Ray Lewis is the starter and he has 104 tackles, 1 forced fumble and 3 ints... but clearly the Ravens have a better team than the Browns and Ray Lewis has a rep, so he gets the nod.