Cowboys | Showing consistent interest in Barden

[Spectre]

I wouldn't exactly call Iglesias "fast". He's a methodical guy in the mold of a Hines Ward or Houshmadzadeh. I do thinnk he's solid and worth drafting at the right spot though.

Barden doesn't "do it for me" and to compare him to Greg Jennings is like comparing... well Barden to Jennings. They couldn't be any more different in terms of build/play style and the talent level shown between the 2 is eons apart.


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[BAT]

He just seems like another project to me. The only way we get him is in the 3rd and that simply isn't project territory.

That's funny you say that yet want Sidbury at the same spot.

 

[BAT]

You've got RW and Bennett on the team. Do we really need another 6'6" receiver?

I'd much rather have an OL, ILB, NT, S, or CB than another WR esp an unproven one. Pick up a guy with the quicks who can catch the ball in the later rounds. Chances of a 1st year receiver helping this team much aren't nearly as good as drafting someone on the LOS to be a backup now and hope they can start 2-4 years from now.

If you were addressing me, I said I liked him, I did not say I would pick him, and certainly not in the 3rd.

 

[2much2soon]

Didn't Dallas already draft this guy 8 or 10 years ago, except his name was Macey Brooks?

 

[tomson75]

Didn't Dallas already draft this guy 8 or 10 years ago, except his name was Macey Brooks?

JMU represent!!!!

 

[Spectre]

repost

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151381&page=3

Todd Pinkston?

 

[ctrous25]

repost

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151381&page=3

Todd Pinkston?

lol nah I was thinking Roy E. Williams a little bit

 

[Bluefin]

JMU represent!!!!

The House of Haley!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Cowboys | Showing consistent interest in Barden
Comment (0) Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:06:08 -0700
Ed Thompson, of Scout.com, reports Cal-Poly WR Ramses Barden said the Dallas Cowboys are one of the teams showing the most consistent interest in him over the past few months.

This guy is a one-trick pony. Tony don't do dat. Tony is not a finesse, corner type thrower.
Tony throws it everwhere in the endzone and a lot of crossing patterns.
Height and leap in the corner are great, if the corners don't outleap and pick it off and the QB can finesse it there. But a player have to be more versatile.

I will pass and I am sure the Cowboys will pass too.

 

[Cowboyz88]

Hate to say it, but I'm going to be nervous about any WR they pick until I actually see them perform on the field.

Crayton has been decent, Bryant had talent but no brains and everyone else in the last 15 years has been terrible. Needless to say, the Cowboys record in drafting receivers isn't so great.

Heck, they could draft Crabtree and I'd start to wonder, and I'm a Tech alum.

I kid, but you get my drift.

 

[Randy White]

I wouldn't exactly call Iglesias "fast". He's a methodical guy in the mold of a Hines Ward or Houshmadzadeh. I do thinnk he's solid and worth drafting at the right spot though.

I agree. That's they I look at him too.

The type of guy who's not going to make you jump out of your seat, but when the game is over he's caught 8 passes for 90 yards and a TD or two, and moved the chains 5 or 6 times.

 

[billknows]

Not saying this guy is a bust or anything of the sort, but enough with these types of WRs already. Will anyone on this team in not named Jason Witten be able to get separation in 2009? I really fear that Romo won't be handle all of these pass catchers that he'll have to trust to go get the ball. He seems to be more comfortable throwing to guys that cleanly open or at least he percieves to be that way.

I agree 100%

 

[Khartun]

he looked OK in the program on ESPN last night. I don't know if it was a replay or first showing but it had all the competitions with the recievers and such. He looked to have really good hands and didn't look terribly slow on the route competition. I wouldn't mind that pick later.

 

[Hoofbite]

The only thing I learned from that video is that he's a goal line and redzone WR. Him being 6"6 is a huge advantage but will he get off the line against NFL corners?? I have my doubts about the guy turning into anything special, but him paired with Martellus and Roy would make a pretty deadly red-zone offense.

I watched the first minute and I agree.

Just "throwing it up" doesn't translate to the NFL and thats pretty much all that was going on.

Kudos to him for making the most of his size advantage but I'm not sold on drafting a guy just because he's big.

Like other have said the team needs a quick, shifty receiver with some speed. Someone who can create separation without having to get to top speed to do it.

I don't know who that would be at #51 but thats what I think the team needs at WR.

 

[RealCowboyfan]

Cortney Brown from Cal Poly and he had alot of interceptions. I like Nicks. But I do like Barden height at 6-6. At the same time, I think of DeVeren Johnson the wide receiver Cowboys drafted in the 6th Round that was 6-6.

You also have to take in consideration wide receivers like Terrell Owens Chattanoga, Marquis Colston 6th Rd Draft choice, etc. A whole lot of small schools have big talent, it just take the right coach and motivation from the player himself to determine his progress on the next level.

 

[SMCowboy]

In the NFL speed is not what creates separation. If it was all about speed creating separation, then there wouldn't be the large number of fast WR's like Sinorice Moss, Troy Williamson, Ashlie Lelie, Peter Warrick, ect that bust in the NFL.

The reason that drafting WR's is so hit or miss, is because it isn't about 40 times, or quickness, ect that determine if a guy can get separation, in the NFL. And WR's in college do not see the same sort of press man coverage that they see in the NFL.

Everyone is all enamored about speed, but if speed had any help in being a great NFL player, than Reggie Bush would be a sure fire HOFer already, and Anquan Boldin and Keyshawn Johnson wouldn't be able to make it in the NFL.

 

[jobberone]

If you were addressing me, I said I liked him, I did not say I would pick him, and certainly not in the 3rd.

Wasn't addressing anyone in particular. I generally quote and even then I will start generalizing.

If he's the BPA ok otherwise I wouldn't fall in love with anyone this draft. With no top pick we need to try to find some depth. I don't see us getting a starter from this draft. Not this year.

 

[BAT]

Wasn't addressing anyone in particular. I generally quote and even then I will start generalizing.

If he's the BPA ok otherwise I wouldn't fall in love with anyone this draft. With no top pick we need to try to find some depth. I don't see us getting a starter from this draft. Not this year.

Got it. I'm just concerned that Jerry panics and tries to reach for a bad egg. I know Harvin is supposedly off the board, but despite his immense talents, I don't want him on this team. I would think that whoever Dallas drafts with their 1st pick (2nd rounder) the Jones' expect that player to push for a starting position. They mentioned that a lot after the last draft.


There are a lot of options due the depth of this WR class, I'm sure we can get someone who is a hard worker, good character, good talent plus productive. We need at least 3 of the 4, preferably all 4, and not fall in love with someone's athletic potential.

 

[jobberone]

Got it. I'm just concerned that Jerry panics and tries to reach for a bad egg. I know Harvin is supposedly off the board, but despite his immense talents, I don't want him on this team. I would think that whoever Dallas drafts with their 1st pick (2nd rounder) the Jones' expect that player to push for a starting position. They mentioned that a lot after the last draft.


There are a lot of options due the depth of this WR class, I'm sure we can get someone who is a hard worker, good character, good talent plus productive. We need at least 3 of the 4, preferably all 4, and not fall in love with someone's athletic potential.

Wholeheartedly agree. We need to go after a player who has an appropriate level of risk/reward for our first couple of picks. It's kool to look like a genius or a Gil Brandt. For every Staubach and Walker pick there is the Rod Hill factor though.

That's why I've been harping on the safest pick possible at 51 and 69. I particularly think there are OL and DL in this draft who are the safer picks in round 3 and 4. But I also realize no matter how much you scrutinize a pick you know there's inherent risk of failure. I just think going after a Casey or that WR from Division Not One is not the safest pick.

 

[Aliencowboy]

Mike Wallace is the guy we need to add to this mix. I'd even
take him in the third.