cowboys showing interest in Antoine Bethea restricted FS

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Bob Sacamano;3297303 said:
So there's noone in this draft that is a similar type of player?

Oh wait. Nate Allen.

A bird in the hand...

We know what Bethea can do, the college players are relative unknowns in comparison.
 

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InmanRoshi;3297298 said:
No, just a 25 year old who's already been to two Pro Bowls.

Bob Sacamano;3297303 said:
So there's noone in this draft that is a similar type of player?

Oh wait. Nate Allen.

So what's the difference between trading a first for Bethea and drafting Nate Allen in the first?

3 years age difference?

WOW!

Bethea.2 probowls.SB ring.proven.experienced> Nate Allen. Could be a total JAG
 

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SLATEmosphere;3297273 said:
:bow:

Fiiiinaly
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Bob Sacamano;3297303 said:
So there's noone in this draft that is a similar type of player?

Oh wait. Nate Allen.

No, there's no one in the draft that has already proven to be NFL multi-Pro Bowl caliber safety.

There's probably players who "project" to be good, but then again LaRon Landry was "projected" to be an All Pro for the next decade.
 

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SLATEmosphere;3297313 said:
So what's the difference between trading a first for Bethea and drafting Nate Allen in the first?

3 years age difference?

WOW!

Bethea.2 probowls.SB ring.proven.experienced> Nate Allen. Could be a total JAG

You could draft Nate Allen in the 2nd, and he's going to have a much lower contract.
 

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I'm done, you guys can wish for Bethea to your hearts' content. It's not gonna happen.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3297319 said:
You could draft Nate Allen in the 2nd, and he's going to have a much lower contract.
and he';s not going to start either since the coaching staff doesn't like to start rookies
 

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cowboyjoe;3297253 said:
yeah but what would he cost us in a draft pick, i dont want to lose our top 3 draft picks for sure;

I'm not positive but I think we could work a trade instead of giving them a draft pick.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3297319 said:
You could draft Nate Allen in the 2nd, and he's going to have a much lower contract.

It's perfectly fine to suggest that Bethea isn't worth the price, but to suggest you can just go out pick up a player who will go to 2 Pro Bowls in his first four years in the NFL like you're picking one off a tree is a bit of naive simplification of the inherent gamble of the draft process. If finding Pro Bowlers was that easy in the draft, particularly for this franchise, we wouldn't have had a 13 year playoff drought.

And if finding good safeties was so easy, it's hard to explain how this franchise has been without decent safety play for about 8 consecutive years.
 

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Bob Sacamano;3297319 said:
You could draft Nate Allen in the 2nd, and he's going to have a much lower contract.

Nate Allen won't be there with our 2nd rounder.

Nate Allen wouldn't contribute right away. Wade doesn't start rooks.

Nate Allen could amount to nothing.

Who cares about money. If he's good. Pay him

I'm trying to win now. Not waiting a few years hoping Nate turns into anything,
 

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Bob Sacamano;3297271 said:
Seriously, you guys don't think we could find a Bethea in the draft? He was a freaking 6th round pick from Howard.

Wait a minute homie! U talkin' bout my alma mater :D
 

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InmanRoshi;3297318 said:
No, there's no one in the draft that has already proven to be NFL multi-Pro Bowl caliber safety.

There's probably players who "project" to be good, but then again LaRon Landry was "projected" to be an All Pro for the next decade.

I'm talking about skill-set. I'm not saying Nate Allen is going to be an All-Pro, but has the skill-set to do the things Bethea does.
 

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InmanRoshi;3297331 said:
It's perfectly fine to suggest that Bethea isn't worth the price, but to suggest you can just go out pick up a player who will go to 2 Pro Bowls in his first four years in the NFL like you're picking one off a tree is a bit of naive simplification of the inherent gamble of the draft process. If finding Pro Bowlers was that easy in the draft, particularly for this franchise, we wouldn't have had a 13 year playoff drought.

:bow:
 

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SLATEmosphere;3297313 said:
So what's the difference between trading a first for Bethea and drafting Nate Allen in the first?

3 years age difference?

WOW!

Bethea.2 probowls.SB ring.proven.experienced> Nate Allen. Could be a total JAG

Let's not act like they would have the same contract.

Nate Allen would get something like 5 years for 12 millon for his rookie contract, while Bethea would get somewhere in the ballpark of 50 mil.
 

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InmanRoshi;3297331 said:
It's perfectly fine to suggest that Bethea isn't worth the price, but to suggest you can just go out pick up a player who will go to 2 Pro Bowls in his first four years in the NFL like you're picking one off a tree is a bit of naive simplification of the inherent gamble of the draft process. If finding Pro Bowlers was that easy in the draft, particularly for this franchise, we wouldn't have had a 13 year playoff drought.

I'm not saying that!!

SLATEmosphere;3297332 said:
Nate Allen won't be there with our 2nd rounder.

Nate Allen wouldn't contribute right away. Wade doesn't start rooks.

Nate Allen could amount to nothing.

Who cares about money. If he's good. Pay him

I'm trying to win now. Not waiting a few years hoping Nate turns into anything,

A FS isn't going to determine if we win the Super Bowl or not.

Your mindset that we have to have Bethea is exactly why we're straddled with Ken Hamlin's enormous contract. Paying free safeties enormous contracts is an enormous blunder.
 

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JBell523;3297338 said:
Let's not act like they would have the same contract.

Nate Allen would get something like 5 years for 12 millon for his rookie contract, while Bethea would get somewhere in the ballpark of 50 mil.

uncapped year.

bye.
 

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No way for a 1st... but for maybe a 3rd rounder, if St. Louis is willing to do it, I say go for it.
 
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