Cowboys sign Will McClay to extension

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I would like to see him facilitate a couple of trades to see how he does on that......we all well know Jerry certainly can't.
 

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Don't get me wrong. I'm all for improvement.

But what are the chances that if McClay walks, the Jones' find an upgrade as a replacement?

I have no faith in that possibility whatsoever.

Yeah you’re right, I’m not arguing that part. Jerry would most likely just give more power to his son. I just think it’s kinda weird to see so many excited about a guy that:
A- They don’t truly know what his job does or doesn’t entail
B- Holds an important front office position on a team that can’t win playoff games
C- Has struggled with the pro personnel side of things (if that is even his role)

Just playing devils advocate really. Maybe McClay is the glue holding a sinking ship from completely sinking? I honestly don’t know. But just from a pure outside perspective I don’t think anyone in the front office deserves praise or job security after last off season. Let’s all hope it gets better this year.
 

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Yeah you’re right, I’m not arguing that part. Jerry would most likely just give more power to his son. I just think it’s kinda weird to see so many excited about a guy that:
A- They don’t truly know what his job does or doesn’t entail
B- Holds an important front office position on a team that can’t win playoff games
C- Has struggled with the pro personnel side of things (if that is even his role)

Just playing devils advocate really. Maybe McClay is the glue holding a sinking ship from completely sinking? I honestly don’t know. But just from a pure outside perspective I don’t think anyone in the front office deserves praise or job security after last off season. Let’s all hope it gets better this year.

Someone has to be the secret genius that's going to save the franchise.

Shout out to Tom Ciskowski. Hope he's doing well.
 

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I feel McClay gets a lot of praise just because his last name isn’t Jones....his title says he’s in charge of pro personnel as well and to be perfectly honest, he’s doing a fairly terrible job at that. I look up and down the roster and see a sheer lack of talent. Obviously that doesn’t go all on McClay, but I don’t know if fans should be cheering that anyone in the front office is back after the off season the team had last year.
Much of that is the budget for free agents
But the biggest thing he done is keep Jerry from reaching for little shiny toys in the draft
It’s hard to have solid depth when you don’t participate in any meaningful way in free agency
I’m not a fan of big contract free agents but you can’t get away with just bargain basement guys either
 

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I was told that we were bad at drafting by very smart people on this board!

"With the Cowboys opting to stay out of the chase for big-name free agents, they have to draft well and develop players. According to Pro Football Focus, the Cowboys had the third-most "homegrown" snaps played in the league last season with 16,808. The Cincinnati Bengals were No. 1 (18,559) and the Green Bay Packers (17,018) were No. 2."
 

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I don't think it's that they are anti free agency as much as it is they are anti salary cap problems and anti trading away draft picks. The Cowboys may be a little over cautious, but that's at least a little understandable considering salary cap problems dogged the Cowboys for most of 2 decades, and considering the draft has been good to them in recent years. Besides, I don't think other teams make trades nearly as often as Cowboy fans think they do. It's not a free wheeling thing that only the Cowboys don't participate in.
I think they’ve been burned on free agents and went too far the other way
You have to really be right on a high dollar long term deal with a player you don’t know
But you have to find that happy medium
Get some one year prove it guys, find those mid range guys as depth and keep your own good players
We kinda went dumpster diving after years of buying a poke
Got to find a middle ground
 

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Meh

I don’t understand all the love McClay gets. Every good move is because of McClay. All the bad moves are because of Jerry and Stephen.
 

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I like him.

I just wish I knew if he was as anti free agency and Trades as Stephen Jones has been.

If he is one of the guys pushing that agenda then I wish we would've let him go.

Other then that I like the job he's done in the draft overall.

I don't think anyone is anti free agency but it's like going to the casino. The risk vs reward is always stacked against you.
 

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I don't disagree that they seem to have become a little to adverse to trades and free agency, but it is a delicate game to find the kind of players that will be notable additions without it costing too much too get them. Frankly the Cowboys are still kind of going through a learning curve on how to balance all this after way too many years of having no discipline with trades and free agents.

Our biggest issue is overvaluing our own free agents and handing out outrageous contracts to guys like Dez and Witten. You can add in Ratliff and Miles Austin in there too. Don't forget Marion Barber. Way too much pissed off salary cap on guys who are a poor return on investment.
 

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Jerry Jones loves him some Will McClay because W-Mc did a good job as the HC of JJ’s Arena League team (Dallas Desperados).

Will McClay is the Jason Garrett of player-personnel VPs; an under-qualified company yes-man who wouldn’t dream of talking to the media without a written okay from Jerry and, at that, would NEVER publicly contradict the owner/GM.


But hey, far be it from me to drop a dookie in anybody’s Kool-Aid.
 

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INDIANAPOLIS -- As a number of teams flirted with the idea of making Will McClay their general manager, including the Houston Texans this offseason, the Dallas Cowboys made sure to show their appreciation to their vice president of player personnel.

According to sources, the Cowboys signed McClay to a two-year extension after he declined the opportunity to interview with Houston.

http://www.espn.com/blog/dallas-cow...sources-cowboys-sign-will-mcclay-to-extension
Well he did find DAK !!
 

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I was told that we were bad at drafting by very smart people on this board!

"With the Cowboys opting to stay out of the chase for big-name free agents, they have to draft well and develop players. According to Pro Football Focus, the Cowboys had the third-most "homegrown" snaps played in the league last season with 16,808. The Cincinnati Bengals were No. 1 (18,559) and the Green Bay Packers (17,018) were No. 2."

This would go over a little better if they were successful with those players.

You might notice the Bengals at #1.
 

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Much of that is the budget for free agents
But the biggest thing he done is keep Jerry from reaching for little shiny toys in the draft
It’s hard to have solid depth when you don’t participate in any meaningful way in free agency
I’m not a fan of big contract free agents but you can’t get away with just bargain basement guys either

Regardless of price point there have been bad decisions made. Carroll, Paea, Moore...none lasted the season with the Cowboys. Paea and Carroll were both signed to play significant snaps for us. Again regardless of price, that’s just bad talent evaluation. Ced Thornton, Byron Bell, Mayowa, Gachkar...
And I could argue the in house talent evaluation is poor as well. Just a lot of mediocre players starting for the Cowboys for significant amounts of time.

I know it sounds like I’m hating on McClay but I’m really not. Like I said before, the guy is a complete mystery to me. Come to think of it I’m not sure I’ve ever heard him speak lol...and I’ll give him credit in that there has for sure been a spike in good/smart drafting since his role has increased
 

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I could understand giving the extension if the team won a Super Bowl.

This does not excite me.
 

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I like him.

I just wish I knew if he was as anti free agency and Trades as Stephen Jones has been.

If he is one of the guys pushing that agenda then I wish we would've let him go.

Other then that I like the job he's done in the draft overall.
I highly doubt that aspect is driven by him, but if he is just giving the emperor clothes that aint cool (hear ya there). That's seems the standard with JJ/SJ's since they got their new stadium. Rake in the $, minimal research/spending in FA, morphing re-signing your own FAs as equal to FA spending to improve the team (it worked until this last off season where fans got hip to this ruse), higher focus on brand, etc.

He might be in the position where he knows his impact is heard come draft time but speaking on spending on FA is an understood "deaf ear/lead to animosity" route within this dysfunctional FO structure, etc. They take all the heat, he gains respect within league as the one professional involved in the process.
 
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