Cowboys Team "Depth"

cowboyblue22

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this team has lots of players with lots of dings that miss lots of practice time so they need depth at all positions I just wonder how Orlando will be this year he has a groin now wonder how many other dings he will have
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if we see a sneaky trade before our season opener.

We need some defensive end help.


I kinda like what I've seen from the LB's. Nzeocha has big upside imo.

I like nzochea. He can run. We don't have many guys that can run to be honest. His injury though leaves me to think we might not see him for awhile.
 

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I think safety is by far the weakest and thinnest position on the team
 

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I like nzochea. He can run. We don't have many guys that can run to be honest. His injury though leaves me to think we might not see him for awhile.



Has there been a update on that injury? An Achilles strain? Whats the timetable on that? Have they said?
 

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I have seen several posters say that we lack overall team depth and that the roster is "top heavy" with a significant drop off in talent level after the starters. Personally, I take issue with that.

We currently seem to have very good depth at running back. Maybe the best in recent memory and arguably the current deepest in the NFL. About the only backfields that seem to compare in recent history was L. Tomlinson and his backup, whose name escapes me.

Offensive line is stacked with starting caliber Leary as an interior backup. We have good depth at tight end, although Hanna is currently injured. Our receiver depth looks ok.

We are pretty solid on depth at corner, and the interior DL looks very good.

The DE talent is a glass half full or glass half empty kind of thing. Barring suspensions, we are probably league average or so at defensive end.

I think out thinnest position is currently linebacker, although Nzoacha, may have alleviate that some. All in all this is a pretty deep and talented roster.

We have depth concerns. I think it's a bit optimistic to claim otherwise. Depth doesn't mean just having a lot of bodies at a position.

You can't just write off DE like you tried to do. For starters, we aren't even sure if anyone outside Lawrence is any good. And two of the guys that people kept saying would alleviate the DE issue - Mayowa and Tapper - haven't even seen a preseason game yet. Depth at DE is a big concern.

Depth at LB is a big concern as well.

Depth at S, another big concern.

Depth at TE is a smaller concern because we just don't know what we have in Escobar, etc.

Depth at QB is another minor concern despite the start Prescott has had.

There is only two spots on the roster that I believe we have quality proven, depth............ TB and OL. Obviously with Morris and McFadden you have two proven vets. Along the OL, you have so much talent and flexibility amongst the starters and then a guy like Leary and Green as backups, I think you could mix and match a good OL in case there were injuries.

Oh, and it looks like DT is pretty solid as well, especially since McClain looks healthy.
 

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Has there been a update on that injury? An Achilles strain? Whats the timetable on that? Have they said?

I think it was concluded as a strain and day to day....which could mean he plays week 1 or the team is attending his funeral week 1.

I like that garrett gives out no information honestly its just a bummer when we want to know what is really wrong with the injured players.
 

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I think you nailed it. Safety doesn't look good to me, and defensive end still looks highly questionable until somebody proves otherwise.
Even with D Law gone for 4 games will he come back looking like the end of last year or will he start slow and pick it up as the season goes on.

I think DT will beast inside by having a end that needs to be doubled will be huge on that DL.
 

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Even with D Law gone for 4 games will he come back looking like the end of last year or will he start slow and pick it up as the season goes on.

And personally, I'm a bit disappointed that Tapper hasn't done anything thus far, and after a promising start, Irving is now sidelined too.

As someone who campaigned to bring in Dwight Freeney, it only makes the current situation feel worse.

I think DT will beast inside by having a end that needs to be doubled will be huge on that DL.

I agree, but with a qualifier - health. What we have at the position looks very encouraging, but guys like Tyrone Crawford, Terrell McClain, and Maliek Collins need to stay on the field.
 

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Just a couple of quibbles...

Oline: Surprisingly, I think Green is turning out to be a decent backup tackle. He's played better each game, which I think may be indicative of a guy who's seeing the field for the first time in a year.

Corner: We have no All Pros but I think we're pretty solid across the board with OScan returning, Mo healthy and confident and a few promising young guys (Brown/Olatoye/McKinnon) in the mix.

I have watched the Dolphin game several times and Green gets beat nearly every time and if not gets a penalty. He may come around, but I dont like him as it stands.

Scandric and Mo I dont consider depth those guys are starters in my mind.
 

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This is the deepest roster team has had in awhile, though I really hope they spend another high pick on a wr capable of playing outside next year if Butler doesn't develop. They goofed on McClain, why they believed in him is beyond me so the middle linebacker spot is a bit soft. Think Green is going to be fine once his conditioning picks up, so hopefully swing tackle is an area that today is considered weak but by end of preseason will be resolved. I think Frazier is going to come on a beat out Wilcox and supply added depth to the safety group. DE is a mess.
 

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I have watched the Dolphin game several times and Green gets beat nearly every time and if not gets a penalty. He may come around, but I dont like him as it stands.

Scandric and Mo I dont consider depth those guys are starters in my mind.


No he didn't, his first half work was pretty good.
 

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No he didn't, his first half work was pretty good.

Pretty good? I was not impressed. And did he not have a penalty that helped kill the first drive?

I saw him get a penalty on one play that whipped out a TD or a big play, then on the next play he got beat badly and Dak had to run for it.

He has slow feet and he appears weak and uncoordinated. And we all know he is out of shape.

Maybe you have hope all this will change, but I thought he was a bad pick on draft day and scouts had him pegged going later in the draft. Injury prone has also been an issue in college and so far while he has been here.
 

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I think the LB's will surprise some people. I think a lot was based on McClain. Though many never liked him, he did make a difference at times, and other times he didn't. But he was more good than mediocre. But the same people that said he wasn't realy all that good, are the same ones saying the LB's now suck.

Hitchens played very well in place of McClain, so there is no reason why he shouldn't be bad now, that just doesn't make sense. He will be fine. Also he has Lee out there with him, as before in 2014 he didn't. Nzeocha has looked good, and we have Durant back also. When he when out with an injury in 2014, that hurt the defense more so than when McClain wasn't in there.

Now we need to see if Wilson is the player they hoped he would be when they drafted him. Wilber can be serviceable, as the coaches seem to like him, and his versatility. And he can line up at DE if needed. Even though I often posted why is he here. But they know better than I do.
That leaves the staus of a 7th LB. Gachkar, but is he back, I have not heard anything on him, just that he had a broken thumb. He too can be serviceable and like Wilber both are ST's aces.

I can see Morris slipping in there too, but a few plays in PS games doesn't warrant a roster spot yet IMO.

If the DT's do what we hope they can do, this allows the LB's do what they are supposed to do better. It's that domino effect.
 

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Pretty good? I was not impressed. And did he not have a penalty that helped kill the first drive?

I saw him get a penalty on one play that whipped out a TD or a big play, then on the next play he got beat badly and Dak had to run for it.

He has slow feet and he appears weak and uncoordinated. And we all know he is out of shape.

Maybe you have hope all this will change, but I thought he was a bad pick on draft day and scouts had him pegged going later in the draft. Injury prone has also been an issue in college and so far while he has been here.


His slow feet and penalties I guess prevented the team from scoring 37 first half points as opposed to 27.
 

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I have seen several posters say that we lack overall team depth and that the roster is "top heavy" with a significant drop off in talent level after the starters. Personally, I take issue with that.

We currently seem to have very good depth at running back. Maybe the best in recent memory and arguably the current deepest in the NFL. About the only backfields that seem to compare in recent history was L. Tomlinson and his backup, whose name escapes me.

Offensive line is stacked with starting caliber Leary as an interior backup. We have good depth at tight end, although Hanna is currently injured. Our receiver depth looks ok.

We are pretty solid on depth at corner, and the interior DL looks very good.

The DE talent is a glass half full or glass half empty kind of thing. Barring suspensions, we are probably league average or so at defensive end.

I think out thinnest position is currently linebacker, although Nzoacha, may have alleviate that some. All in all this is a pretty deep and talented roster.

Mainly agree with this.

My biggest concern is where the heck is the pass rushing going to come from?
 

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Jenkins might have a knee issue.

Good thing we have a lot of depth at DE.
 

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And personally, I'm a bit disappointed that Tapper hasn't done anything thus far, and after a promising start, Irving is now sidelined too.

As someone who campaigned to bring in Dwight Freeney, it only makes the current situation feel worse.



I agree, but with a qualifier - health. What we have at the position looks very encouraging, but guys like Tyrone Crawford, Terrell McClain, and Maliek Collins need to stay on the field.
Tapper has been hurt that's why he hasn't shown anything. I agree health is big but T. Crawford didn't miss a game last year
 

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I have seen several posters say that we lack overall team depth and that the roster is "top heavy" with a significant drop off in talent level after the starters. Personally, I take issue with that.

We currently seem to have very good depth at running back. Maybe the best in recent memory and arguably the current deepest in the NFL. About the only backfields that seem to compare in recent history was L. Tomlinson and his backup, whose name escapes me.

Offensive line is stacked with starting caliber Leary as an interior backup. We have good depth at tight end, although Hanna is currently injured. Our receiver depth looks ok.

We are pretty solid on depth at corner, and the interior DL looks very good.

The DE talent is a glass half full or glass half empty kind of thing. Barring suspensions, we are probably league average or so at defensive end.

I think out thinnest position is currently linebacker, although Nzoacha, may have alleviate that some. All in all this is a pretty deep and talented roster.
It is the opposite of that for the defense. They lack elite players on defense but have depth in terms of having a lot of "good enough" players.
 
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