News: Cowboys Trade for Christine Michael per Schefter

[kevm3]

If he's lazy or crazy, we let him go and get an RB next year in the draft or possibly sign a FA or trade for one. For a late rounder, this was worth the risk.

 

[AbeBeta]

So we're probably getting about 3-4 comp picks. Gave up a 6th for Swaim a conditional for CM. you can't trade comp picks. So substitute the comp picks for the traded picks and it's a wash.

And realize we cut 6th and 7th rounders every year

 

[Alexander]

He's a bruiser. We needed a bruiser. We gave up a conditional 7th round pick.

What's not to love about this?

It is a real dice roll. But if you do not value 7th round choices, I guess you could love it.

Just would have preferred giving up the pick for West, who is a little of the opposite of Michael on the personality spectrum, at least from my understanding.

 

[AbeBeta]

If he's lazy or crazy, we let him go and get an RB next year in the draft or possibly sign a FA or trade for one. For a late rounder, this was worth the risk.

And we'll know it soon enough to cut him and not have to give up the pick

 

[mattjames2010]

And not a thing you posted answered my question.

Do you totally believe that when an obviously talented player fails that it is not due in some part to laziness? And what exactly comprises the label someone gets when called "immature"? Does that scream hard working, doing their best consistently? Not to me.

So what kept him from doing the right thing, all the time? What would make the coach make this observation?

Honestly, I don't know if he is lazy. But I am not naïve to think that if a player does not realize their potential that laziness plays no part in that.

Ever stop to think that a team misjudged a players potential? Maybe said player isn't fit for that team?

And no, you don't know if he's lazy or not. What you have to go by is what the coaches said about him, and they all spoke of him favorably. When the HC says a player is the "Most improved", that goes against the "immature" claims. That goes against being inconsistent or having a poor work ethic.

 

[Common Sense]

That goes against being inconsistent or having a poor work ethic.

Oh, so now he's consistent, is he?

 

[JBS]

It is a real dice roll. But if you do not value 7th round choices, I guess you could love it.

Just would have preferred giving up the pick for West, who is a little of the opposite of Michael on the personality spectrum, at least from my understanding.

In what way? I'm sure you are aware that the Browns just got rid of the 94th pick in last year's draft for a conditional 7th bc of his off field issues

 

[Alexander]

Ever stop to think that a team misjudged a players potential? Maybe said player isn't fit for that team?

And no, you don't know if he's lazy or not. What you have to go by is what the coaches said about him, and they all spoke of him favorably. When the HC says a player is the "Most improved", that goes against the "immature" claims. That goes against being inconsistent or having a poor work ethic.

And it goes back to my earlier point.

Teams are not going to blast players publicly.

And why you areally relying on last year's "most improved" comment is beyond me. All that tells me is that he was not fulfilling his potential before and then sort of did. Then a year later, he is replaced and basically given away.

All anyone can do is hope the change in scenery and dynamic makes a difference.

 

[Doc50]

The fourth camp should be those who think there's nothing wrong with taking a low risk flier on a guy who should come with tampered expectations. Every now and then these types of moves pan out.

Very sensible.

 

[Deep_South]

Jerry, Jason, and the rest of the coaches had a lot of time to figure out who they wanted, and they picked Christine Michael, who looks like exactly what we need to fill the hole in our running game at a price that won't hurt us at all. Let's hand the ball off to him next Sunday and see what happens.

 

[bark]

I don't understand all the hand wringing over this trade.
Guys we gave up a 7th round pick for an athletic bruising running back. If he doesn't cut it ..... We cut him. What am I missing here

 

[JBS]

And it goes back to my earlier point.

Teams are not going to blast players publicly.

And why you areally relying on last year's "most improved" comment is beyond me. All that tells me is that he was not fulfilling his potential before and then sort of did. Then a year later, he is replaced and basically given away.

All anyone can do is hope the change in scenery and dynamic makes a difference.

That's like saying Lawrence being considered the most improved this year means he didn't meet potential last year...is it true...probably..but it really doesn't mean anything

 

[BrassCowboy]

Sorry, don't see any downside at all to this trade. Very good move

 

[mattjames2010]

And it goes back to my earlier point.

Teams are not going to blast players publicly.

And why you areally relying on last year's "most improved" comment is beyond me. All that tells me is that he was not fulfilling his potential before and then sort of did. Then a year later, he is replaced and basically given away.

All anyone can do is hope the change in scenery and dynamic makes a difference.

Because that's what we're discussing? We're not discussing if he's as talented as his combine and college career made us think, we are discussing the claim that he has a poor work ethic.

I'm backing up what I'm saying. I'm waiting for you two to do the same. I don't play the assumption game, I don't spin the words of what the coaches say. You gave me a quote, without giving the full response, and dissected that. But when I give you the quote from Pete Carroll, you question why it's being brought up.

Again, if you don't have anything to stand on with the claim that he's lazy (This is what the discussion stemmed from), you should question why you're making such a claim.

 

[JBS]

Why is it so hard to comprehend that we traded a 7th round pick for a short yardage back?

 

[Alexander]

Sorry, don't see any downside at all to this trade. Very good move

Nor do I. I just do not see it as any more than a wait and see proposition. Nothing more, nothing less. Mostly upside due to the relative low cost.

But if you read more into it than that, I suggest there is a little bit of bias at work.

If he were from Central Michigan, I think there would be less excitement.

 

[Vintage]

I'll never understand how twisted up some get over adding another back. Maybe it's anxiety over the fact what they thought the team had, they didn't. At least as far as the FO saw it. I think going 4 deep at RB is where you want to be in a committee. I'm excited about CM. Every back here knows he can look good and eventually get paid by running hard for this team.

It's a meh move. It doesn't move the needle. It's just another guy we can throw in the mix. It's hardly worth getting excited or upset about. I don't view the RB core any better today than yesterday. Just one guy deeper.

 

[AbeBeta]

I don't understand all the hand wringing over this trade.
Guys we gave up a 7th round pick for an athletic bruising running back. If he doesn't cut it ..... We cut him. What am I missing here

And if we cut him before the conditions kick in, we give up nothing

 

[Alexander]

From Seattle RB coach Sherman Smith:

"It's frustrating because he's such a good player. He has such talent. We want him to 'get it.' 'Here's what it takes for you to play in this league.' You should say to yourself: 'I'm a second-round draft pick, I haven't played in two years, what do I need to do?' So we tell him, you need to become more consistent.
I told him, talent-wise, your talent scale is higher than Turbo's. But, dependability-wise, professional-wise, you need to learn something from him. So the frustrating part is not seeing him be what he can be as a player. So, I just want to see that happen for him. We try to coach him the right way. Be positive with him. We tell him, 'It's not about you proving us wrong, prove us right. You were a second-round draft pick. Prove us right, why we drafted you.' So that's why we keep encouraging him."

So why wasn't he more dependable and professional than Turbin?

 

[windjc]

From Seattle RB coach Sherman Smith:





So why wasn't he more dependable and professional than Turbin?

He will be in Dallas. Better coaches, his favorite team. New environment. Chance for #1 position. I am optimistic.