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peppersquad;3151496 said:
I'm not the biggest fan of our Coaching staff, but 2 I DON"T have a problem with is Hudson Houck and Dave Campo, I might still be living in 1994, but these 2 have proven they know what they're doing in the position they're in now.
Dave Campo is terrible. we consistently give up 3rd and longs and for the 2nd year in a row we might not get double digit interceptions.
 

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jgboys1;3151325 said:
That sounds about right. I know I am going to get flamed for this but, I wanted Parcells to stay.

I think the team misses his discipline. I know he failed to win a playoff game here also, but just

think of the shape we were in before he got here. I think if he stayed another season or two,

we could of gotten over that playoff drought.

I am totally with you. I wanted Parcell's to stay 3 more years. I thought this team was on the verge, and all the pieces were in place from top to bottom . . . personnel (ireland), coaching staff, and drafting. He had his December problems, and he did fail to win a playoff game, but Parcell's would have eventually fixed that.
 

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I like Cowherd, but I don't take a lot of what he says too serious. He's very re-actionary, and not very original with his sports takes.


FCBarca;3151313 said:
1. That before Parcells' arrival, there was 1 Cowboy pro bowler....When he left, 10...Points out that now, that number is back down to a precious few again.

We were 5-11 when Parcells showed up. Losing teams rarely have many Pro Bowlers.

Wades first year we were 13-3 and had 13 Pro Bowlers, some of which were guys Parcells wanted nothing to do with (Owens) or guys who weren't on Parcells team in 2006.


FCBarca;3151313 said:
3. Losing Todd Bowles saw a decline in the secondary in Dallas at the same time that the Dolphins saw their secondary improve.

Our secondary has been our weak spot for years. Parcells and Bowles could never fix it.

I'd say our secondary has improved markedly since Parcells and Bowles left.


FCBarca;3151313 said:
4. Losing other coaches like Kacy Rodgers and Pasqualoni

I'm pretty sure our defenses folded under them just like it does the current regime.


FCBarca;3151313 said:
5. That losing Jeff Ireland was doubly damaging...Since Ireland has been drafting for the Dolphins, he has made great use of the draft with key starters ...

Parcells and Ireland took over a horrible Dolphins team. Obviously draft picks will start. They're just replacing crappy veterans.

And Tom C. has been doing a very good job running our drafts.
 

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jgboys1;3151325 said:
That sounds about right. I know I am going to get flamed for this but, I wanted Parcells to stay.

I think the team misses his discipline. I know he failed to win a playoff game here also, but just

think of the shape we were in before he got here. I think if he stayed another season or two,

we could of gotten over that playoff drought.

I agree with everything he said and Parcells did build as always a
competitive team.Realizing how close they came,but for a botched
field goal.
 

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Rampage;3151541 said:
Dave Campo is terrible. we consistently give up 3rd and longs and for the 2nd year in a row we might not get double digit interceptions.
yes, both Campo and Houck are living in another era...our DB's are trained to tackle the receiever after he catches it as opposed to playing the ball and as far as our Oline goes, we cannot block good enough that it takes 4 tries to punch it in from the 1ft line
 

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2. That it wasn't simply Parcells leaving but the brain drain that accompanied him...Taking Sparano (OL coach at the time), for one, with him resulted in a gradual decline in the protection of Romo & the running game.

3. Losing Todd Bowles saw a decline in the secondary in Dallas at the same time that the Dolphins saw their secondary improve.

Clear case of a guy assuming things that isn't close to the situation.

Romo has always ran for his life while here in Dallas and Sparano took a lot of heat for it when he was here.

Before Romo ever stepped on the field they used to get Bledsoe KILLED.

And we saw a Secondary Decline? I would say this is our best secondary in years.

We have got this team to another level post Parcells. The problem is we have found off the wall ways to lose football games. Even when Bill was here.
 

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bootyhunta;3151426 said:
Ireland seems to be a good GM thus far for the Dolphins, but I can't complain about the draft picks that Tom Ciskowski has made the last couple of years.

including this year's draft? all we got is a Kicker who can't kick FG's and a 3rd TE.
 

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silver;3151765 said:
including this year's draft? all we got is a Kicker who can't kick FG's and a 3rd TE.

Yes, because you can really judge a draft class after 13 games.

:rolleyes:
 

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Kevlee06;3151411 said:
This is NOT true.

This is from his bio:

In Bowles’ three years in Dallas, three Cowboys defensive backs were chosen to a combined five Pro Bowls, including three by safety Roy Williams. In 2007, three-fourths of Dallas’ backfield was selected to the NFC All-Star squad, as cornerback Terence Newman and safety Ken Hamlin joined Williams in Honolulu. Over those three seasons (2005-07), the Cowboys as a team came up with 52 interceptions, tied for the third-highest total in the NFC during that span.
 

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Pro Bowls by players brought to team since BP: Bigg Davis and Hamlin and TO (we know BP wanted no part of TO). What have they done for us lately? You BP haters seem to want to forget about that.
Players on team from before BP who were in the Pro Bowl since BP: Gurode and the Hotel and Ellis.
Players in Pro Bowl who were brought in by BP: Witten, Newman, Romo, Ratlif, Barber, McBriar.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3151535 said:
Sounds like his source is in the Dolphins organization.

Did we have 10 pro bowlers in 2006? Or is he thinking of '07 when guys like Hamlin and Bigg made it? You know, guys who weren't here when Bill was?

We only have to win one more game this year for this "disaster" of a year to equal what Bill did his last two years here.

Meh, Cowherd is a bag of no-nothing who has always been on Parcells' jock for the same reason he loves the Lakers and USC and the Yankees -- because they are proven big names. Heck, he even admits he doesn't analyze much, but just goes with the superficial. *awaits wileedog's attack of this post*

Very nice sir.
 

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Players are supposed to get better in the first 3-4 years. Most of the players BP brought in were very young- 2005 especially. So they should have kept improving. They have not mostly.
 

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The only thing killing this team is not consistently capitalizing in the redzone, all of which is a combination of penalties, poor execution, and poor play calling...
 

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CowboyFan74;3151833 said:
The only thing killing this team is not consistently capitalizing in the redzone, all of which is a combination of penalties, poor execution, and poor play calling...

That pretty much sums it up.

I saw the endzone view(2nd play) of that goal line fiasco from last week,that was a joke.

Craig
 

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HoleInTheRoof;3151564 said:
Our secondary has been our weak spot for years. Parcells and Bowles could never fix it.

I'd say our secondary has improved markedly since Parcells and Bowles left.
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I wouldn't say that at all, other than we used another 1st round draft pick on it. Plus Jenkins got good just in time for Newman to start losing a step, Scandrick has seriously regressed this year, Ball is a converted nobody and Hamlin is going on almost 2 years now without making a significant play other than whiffing twice on Raven RBs. Sensabaugh has been up and down.

We are horrific on 3rd down this year.

You're right, it was no better with Roy Williams and Keith Davis back there, but Parcells didn't have the option of cutting Roy loose because Jerry signed him to a monster extension.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3151535 said:
We only have to win one more game this year for this "disaster" of a year to equal what Bill did his last two years here. *awaits wileedog's attack of this post*


I'm only going to say you know this argument is apples and oranges given what Bill started with vs. what Wade started with.

Certainly not starting another Parcells war with you though :)
 

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Supposedly Wade took over a very talented team that supposedly has gotten more talented and more experienced. Yet he has gone downhill from his first year. BP took over a joke of a team and built it into a consistent playoff contending team. Wades best year was on a team that had only a few changes from BP's last team. As more players migrate that were not on the team from BP's time- HAS THERE BEEN ANY REAL IMPROVEMENT?
 

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BP leaving didn't cause any decay.

The team simply hasn't moved forward. We have great players such as Ratliff, Ware and Mike Jenkins all developing to their full potential under this staff. This team was ranked 2nd in the NFL in rushing until the RT went down for the season. Everyone talked about Dallas being a team with zero OL depth and that's been proven about accurate.

I do feel Garrett was asked to do too much too soon but ultimately he may end up like Sean Payton finding his stride after some missteps.
 

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wileedog;3151864 said:
I'm only going to say you know this argument is apples and oranges given what Bill started with vs. what Wade started with.

Certainly not starting another Parcells war with you though :)

BP was actually given the ability to re-make the roster, hire whoever he wanted and draft guys he liked. He signed his own pet vets to big deals: Jason Ferguson et al.

If he couldn't win a playoff game in 4 years he certainly doesn't deserve a pass over Wade who gets about none of those considerations.

BP did a solid job here but nothing more than that.
 
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