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Doomsday101

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burmafrd;3151886 said:
Supposedly Wade took over a very talented team that supposedly has gotten more talented and more experienced. Yet he has gone downhill from his first year. BP took over a joke of a team and built it into a consistent playoff contending team. Wades best year was on a team that had only a few changes from BP's last team. As more players migrate that were not on the team from BP's time- HAS THERE BEEN ANY REAL IMPROVEMENT?

BP had 2 playoffs lost both we did not have a single winning dec.

BP 10-6 6-10,9-7 and 9-7
WP 13-3, 9-7 and yet to be determined

I like a lot of what BP did but lets not act as if he handed over the keys to a consistent playoff contender we were not
 

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Doomsday101;3151894 said:
BP had 2 playoffs lost both we did not have a single winning dec.

BP 10-6 6-10,9-7 and 9-7
WP 13-3, 9-7 and yet to be determined

I like a lot of what BP did but lets not act as if he handed over the keys to a consistent playoff contender we were not


Might want to point out to Burm if that 13 win Wade team had little change from the last BP team how come it won 4 more games?

That makes little sense.

Very few teams win 13 games even once in a decade.

That is a good job of coaching. Now that we are back to the 9 win status quo under BP we should string Wade up which makes zero sense.

If one is a bum they are both bums.
 

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Losing Pasqualoni was a bad thing???

Get a grip.
 

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Actually I think the 2009 draft was pretty bad. We got lots of low level picks but how many, if any, will significantly help this team for several years down the road. Our core players are getting older and the time is now cause the window is starting to close. We will be back to 5-11 within 3 years if Jerry doesn't allow/encourage his scouting staff to give him unbiased info--not what he wants to hear or do.
 

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sago1;3152006 said:
Actually I think the 2009 draft was pretty bad. We got lots of low level picks but how many, if any, will significantly help this team for several years down the road. Our core players are getting older and the time is now cause the window is starting to close. We will be back to 5-11 within 3 years if Jerry doesn't allow/encourage his scouting staff to give him unbiased info--not what he wants to hear or do.

It is still to be determined but the draft itself wasn't that good anyways.

We took guys with upside that can develop into something.

As long as we get good QB play we wont fall below 7-9 just based on that.
 

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that is a bunch of BS, as is Cowherd. He does not like th Cowboys and he is always looking for a chance to beat them down on his radio show.
 

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We have contended for the playoffs every year from 2003 except for 2004. We were up for a playoff spot the last game of every season or had already clinched a spot. If that is NOT a consistent playoff contender then WHAT is?
 

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BHendri5;3152052 said:
that is a bunch of BS, as is Cowherd. He does not like th Cowboys and he is always looking for a chance to beat them down on his radio show.

Cowherd never lets the facts get in the way of a good, self-righteous rant.

He is pretty much the present day version of the Fabulous Sports Babe. Loud, stupid, ignorant, and wasn't on the air that long. As I expect Cowerd won't be on the air that long.

He is often my commuting background noise.

He was saying some incredibly stupid, arrogant things this week about health care (of all things) in the U.S.

He was saying that the low rankings of health care in this country don't really mean anything because if you are in the "elite" class of this country you can get the best health care in the World right here in the U.S.

Besides the fact he seems incapable of understanding the problem with class-based health care (or class-based anything for that matter) and how that relates to overall health care rankings, I could tell by his tone he thinks he is a member of the "elite" class in this country.

He made throw up a little in my mouth. What a cull.
 

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Funny everyone keeps using Parcells of some benchmark...but I didnt really see parcells team that was better than current team. Few bright spots but undisciplined style of play with inability to adjust well especially in pressure situations. If beat writers, sports announcers..etc. want to compare this team to success..they might want to start with Jimmy Johnson and one of those teams.
 

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Parcells had his share of head-scratchers and busts, but he left this franchise in far better shape than it was when he first arrived. But leave it to Jerry. It didn't take long for him to completely tear down the 90's dynasty and now he's been trying his hardest to do the same thing after BP got this team back into the playoff contention and set them up for what should've been several major runs.
 

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jterrell;3151892 said:
BP was actually given the ability to re-make the roster, hire whoever he wanted and draft guys he liked. He signed his own pet vets to big deals: Jason Ferguson et al.
Who was a good player. What's your point?

And is Keith Brooking not one of Wade's pets? Has he been hampered somehow by Jerry spending $50M on a RG, something he didn't do with Bill here even though our line was a disaster?

If he couldn't win a playoff game in 4 years he certainly doesn't deserve a pass over Wade who gets about none of those considerations.

BP did a solid job here but nothing more than that.

Wade started with a QB from day one. Bill had one for 3/4 of a season, in his first year as a starter no less.

That's not even getting into the rest of the talent of the team.

Bottom line is there is no one here who can say with a straight face that if Wade takes over the 2003 Cowboys, with Quincy as the starting QB, Troy Hambrick as the starting RB and host of players who would all be gone not only from the team but from professional football all together within a few years that Wade would ever have broken 5 wins a year. He's never done anything like that his whole career.

He's never built a team from scratch. He's always taken over competitive teams that have basically, at best, stayed sort of competitive. And not won anything.
 

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FCBarca;3151313 said:
3. Losing Todd Bowles saw a decline in the secondary in Dallas at the same time that the Dolphins saw their secondary improve.

in John McEnroe voice: YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS ?

Did this college coach watched the secondary in those days ? You know, the one that Detroit, Seattle, Washington, and I forget whome else, use to put up Madden numbers on ?

Has this college coach watched the DULLPHINS' secondary ?

4. Losing other coaches like Kacy Rodgers and Pasqualoni

Yea, because that Dullphins defense are sure killas...

5. That losing Jeff Ireland was doubly damaging...Since Ireland has been drafting for the Dolphins, he has made great use of the draft with key starters ...Also pointed out that perhaps with Ireland still in the fold, Jerry never sells the farm in the trade for RW.

This, I'll buy, although drafting Pat White in the 2nd round isn't one of Jeffrey's most memorable moments. He's done great down here in terms of drafting quality supporting cast personnel. I don't know about the RW thing, since Jeffrey' record of drafting wide receiver is not exactly great, but he does find good player.
 

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bootyhunta;3151426 said:
Ireland seems to be a good GM thus far for the Dolphins, but I can't complain about the draft picks that Tom Ciskowski has made the last couple of years.



:hammer:

In a perfect world, the Jerrathor would have kept both.
 

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Ren;3151513 said:
Wait,.. let me see if i understand this correctly, the reason we're not playing well right now is cause we lost the people responsible for amongst other things drafting the likes of Barbie Carpenter and Skyler Green and god knows how many more we've all repressed the memories of?


:lmao2:


touche...
 

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burmafrd;3152063 said:
We have contended for the playoffs every year from 2003 except for 2004. We were up for a playoff spot the last game of every season or had already clinched a spot. If that is NOT a consistent playoff contender then WHAT is?
Winning a playoff game :p:
 

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Cowher should look at the Steelers. For the most part, they've been better since he left.
 

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When Parcells arrived in 2003, I was obviously excited what he would bring as a coach. But I was mostly optimistic about him bringing a program, and hopefully staying on beyond his coaching days as our czar. Looking back, Jerry would have none of that. That is why we don't have a Sean Payton or a Tony Sporano or a Jeff Ireland. It's a shame.
 

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jgboys1;3151325 said:
That sounds about right. I know I am going to get flamed for this but, I wanted Parcells to stay.

I think the team misses his discipline. I know he failed to win a playoff game here also, but just

think of the shape we were in before he got here. I think if he stayed another season or two,

we could of gotten over that playoff drought.

I agree in part. Here's the problem as far as Parcells was concerned. He still had the knowledge of a coach, but he didn't have the energy of a coach. He was, simply, older. He could stil instill the concept of discipline but he couldn't install the fear that comes with getting players to be discipline.

That's why I think he didn't succeed as well as he did in other stops as a coach.

I also believe Parcells did not want T.O. because even though T.O. is a great player, Parcells saw where T.O. would disrupt the discipline he was trying to establish. Jerry Jones cares nothing about that.

But when Parcells saw the atmosphere T.O. created (Parcells doesn't like all the media hype, and it was too much with T.O.) and how that impacted the focus on football and Jones being a culprit in that, he asked for his walking paper.

Notice, Parcells didn't go back into coaching. He went to the front office. And he brought his guys. And when you look at the Dolphins, that is a very good team.

Think about it? Who are the name players, the playmakers on that roster?

Even without big-name players, this team competes week in and week out and gets better down the stretch.

Imagine if the Parcells philosophy was a part of this franchise with the talent we have?

I know many didn't like Parcells, but he was brought an attitude and philosophy to this franchise that is slowly disappearing, if it's not gone already.
 

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Ren;3151513 said:
Wait,.. let me see if i understand this correctly, the reason we're not playing well right now is cause we lost the people responsible for amongst other things drafting the likes of Barbie Carpenter and Skyler Green and god knows how many more we've all repressed the memories of?

our drafts certainly haven't gotten any worse since losing Ireland whether or not they've gotten better remains to be seen

Name me a franchise that never has busts?
 
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