Cowherd: "It's ridiculous to expect Dak to get over the hump, as it would be for Kirk Cousins."

SteveTheCowboy · Jul 5, 2023

CowboysFaninHouston said:
yeah...sure thing. aha, ooookkk then....hmmm, yep

Alright...carry on. Become that which you crusade against. Making good progress on it, eh? :laugh:

CowboysFaninHouston · Jul 5, 2023

SteveTheCowboy said:
Alright...carry on. Become that which you crusade against. Making good progress on it, eh?

yeah, you are always one step behind. aren't you?.....it explains a lot

Stash · Jul 5, 2023

mcmvp said:
Holding somebody to a higher standard is one thing, demanding perfection is quite another. In his business, it can be argued that the higher standard that he is aiming for is, in fact, that same credibility that you say he lacks. You say he has lost it all for being wrong in this one particular case. I believe most others would believe that he maintains it by admitting when he gets something wrong. But we can just agree to disagree.

It sounds like you’re trying to justify continuing to be fooled by his repeated bait and switch.

SteveTheCowboy · Jul 5, 2023

CowboysFaninHouston said:
yeah, you are always one step behind. aren't you?.....it explains a lot

Oh and I suppose you are one step ahead, eh? LOL....good stuff.

You never did answer my question...like 5 replies ago. You're keeping that answer in your pocket ain;t ya? Now THAT...might be "one step ahead'!

CowboysFaninHouston · Jul 5, 2023

SteveTheCowboy said:
Oh and I suppose you are one step ahead, eh? LOL....good stuff.

You never did answer my question...like 5 replies ago. You're keeping that answer in your pocket ain;t ya? Now THAT...might be "one step ahead'!

nah. I am last in line. always behind. the worst.

interesting that it seems I have gotten under your skin in the past and you are just looking to get even.

hmmm. I wonder

FuzzyLumpkins · Jul 5, 2023

there are a lot of top QBs around 65% comp, 270 ypg, 97 rating and 2.5:1 TD:INT.

stats without context are meaningless. Colin cherrypicked Cousins for a reason though.

CowboysLakerBamaFan · Jul 5, 2023

CowboysFaninHouston said:
yeah, on a rookie contract. did you say the same thing about Dak back in 2016? 17? 18?

I'm not sure what ur getting at. I was making a joke about Purdy.

starfan1 · Jul 5, 2023

SteveTheCowboy said:
And some people defend him incessantly without any fault. Always someone elses.

It’s a cowboy fan thing to do. Just like the previous QB

CowboyRoy · Jul 5, 2023

CowboysLakerBamaFan said:
I don't often say this...but in hindsight I think I agree with you.

The Chiefs DID give up a lot of points, and you don't usually see 35 points and think "great job defense".

But Philly's offense was just as dominant throughout the year in points per game as KC was... and nobody scored as much as Philly in the last few games of the season...so they were a red hot offense.

They scored 35 on KC, and it looked like it migjt be a blowout early...but then KC's defense did what nobody else could do all year: shut down hurts running. Hurts still gashed them thru the air .... but taking away that one thing kept the Chiefs in it, and kept Philly from hanging 50 on them. They forced them into an offense they didn't want to do. Still don't think KC has dominant defensive PLAYERS...but as a unit they played a vital role in that game, maybe more than Mahomes....because if they hadn't done what they did KC woulda lost 50 or 55 to 38.

So there ya go....ur right

The KC DT was 2nd in defensive player of the year voting.

#2 Oline in the NFL, #1 HC in the NFL, #1 TE in NFL history. On top of Mahomes probably being a top 3 QB in NFL history.

Momanpr100 · Jul 5, 2023

CowboysFaninHouston said:
I think you are spe

He thinks Cooper did good in Cleveland, where careers go to die lol :lmao2:

Momanpr100 · Jul 5, 2023

ESisback said:
Dallas is my team, Dak is their choice for QB1, and there’s nothing I can do to change it, so…I’m rooting for him. Simple, really!

Exactly

mcmvp · Jul 5, 2023

Stash said:
It sounds like you’re trying to justify continuing to be fooled by his repeated bait and switch.

No…just defending basic logic. I’m not even suggesting that I agree with him. My only point is that a person does not lose all credibility for being wrong about a football opinion.

America's Cowboy · Jul 5, 2023

CowboysLakerBamaFan said:
I said SOME of those Brady teams. The early ones were very good.

You think the Chiefs 2022 roster was great? I think they were above average . Their D had Chris Jones....and that was about it as far as stars. I think their D greatly benefited from Mahomes always getting them a lead. They were just average in pts per game...even with assistance of frequently having a lead.

I'd take every NFC East Defense over them....except maybe NY

The Chiefs had the 11th best Defense in 2022, compared to the Cowboys having the 12th. The Chiefs' Defense was good enough to help Mahomes and the team throughout the regular season and playoffs. Mahomes had lots of help around him.

https://www.covers.com/Sport/football/nfl/statistics/team-defense/2022-2023

gtb1943 · Jul 5, 2023

America's Cowboy said:
The Chiefs had the 11th best Defense in 2022, compared to the Cowboys having the 12th. The Chiefs' Defense was good enough to help Mahomes and the team throughout the regular season and playoffs. Mahomes had lots of help around him.

https://www.covers.com/Sport/football/nfl/statistics/team-defense/2022-2023

BUT in the end he made the big plays when it mattered. That is the difference.

TheMarathonContinues · Jul 5, 2023

gtb1943 said:
BUT in the end he made the big plays when it mattered. That is the difference.

You mean like the fumble Jalen Hurts had for 6?

America's Cowboy · Jul 5, 2023

gtb1943 said:
BUT in the end he made the big plays when it mattered. That is the difference.

Mahomes wouldn't have been able to without all the weapons, Oline and Defense around him. Period. Football is the biggest team sport. The best QBs can't do it all without great help around them.

TheMarathonContinues · Jul 5, 2023

America's Cowboy said:
Mahomes wouldn't have been able to without all the weapons, Oline and Defense around him. Period. Football is the biggest team sport. The best QBs can't do it all without great help around them.

Gotta suck to be be his coaches and teammates. People think he’s taking a bad team to the SB lol.

America's Cowboy · Jul 5, 2023

TheMarathonContinues said:
Gotta suck to be be his coaches and teammates. People think he’s taking a bad team to the SB lol.

Nah, it's only the Dak haters who think that way. Wish they would follow another team. Heck, they should follow their heart's desire and follow Mahomes since they worship him so much.

Big_D · Jul 5, 2023

This is the best team we've seen in a long time so we'll see how he does with that?

Stash · Jul 5, 2023

mcmvp said:
No…just defending basic logic. I’m not even suggesting that I agree with him. My only point is that a person does not lose all credibility for being wrong about a football opinion.

You go ahead and continue to waste your time with the guy. He has no credibility with me.

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