Cowherd: "It's ridiculous to expect Dak to get over the hump, as it would be for Kirk Cousins."

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Sadly, there will likely never be truly dominant defenses anymore. The Bucs and Ravens were among the all-time best on D. They only allowed 12 and 10 pts per game respectively. That is insane. The Cowboys were a top D last year and still allowed 20. The game and rules have been trending to favor the offense more and more.


The interesting thing about the Buc's championship season was that their defense was so good that, even though their offense was ranked 18th in points, the team was ranked 2nd in point differential. One thing their offense was good at was not turning the ball over. That team's defense was ranked #1 in both categories, points and yardage. However, they were also ranked #1 in turnover margin.

The Ravens first Super Bowl team was the same way. The offense was mediocre so they also focused on not turning the ball over. that team was ranked #1 in point margin and #2 in turnover margin.

Both of them shared the same formula, conservative offense, just wait for defense to do their thing and take advantage of the great field position. they didn't have to worry about scoring every drive, teh QB's were rarely put into pressure situations.

Which brings me back to this upcoming Cowboys season. If they can stay healthy what would prevent them from being the #1 defense this season? When we look at recent history, the Cowboys were #1 in turnover margin in 2021 for the first time in franchise history.

It could be that the most important thing the offense must this season do is not turn the ball over
 

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Overall head to head. Dak owns him. 5-1, and like I said..... conversation over.
I thought each were part of a team and thus all it really tells you was that it seems like the Cowboys were the better team on those days.. So, really it means nothing as relates to QB play alone. Conversation over.
 

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I thought each were part of a team and thus all it really tells you was that it seems like the Cowboys were the better team on those days.. So, really it means nothing as relates to QB play alone. Conversation over.
Dak is still your QB.

Conversation over.
 

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The usual Dak over team mentality heh? I am shocked.
Where did I ever say I choose Dak over the team? Never have. Never will. You just can't handle the fact Dak is still your QB and most likely will continue to be for quite a while more. I wonder why the Cowboys are willing to keep Dak if he is as bad as you proclaim? The truth is Dak is not the problem. Your opinion is. How's that for facts? :p

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Where did I ever say I choose Dak over the team? Never have. Never will. You just can't handle the fact Dak is still your QB and most likely will continue to be for quite a while more. I wonder why the Cowboys are willing to keep Dak if he is as bad as you proclaim? The truth is Dak is not the problem. Your opinion is. How's that for facts? :p

Better yet, here, I will help better inform you. Check this film out...


Here is where the hardcore Dak defenders' logic goes haywire.

Football is a complex game requiring many facets of the totality of the team, performing well to achieve success.

There is almost always more than one problem leading to a lack of success.

In other words, it may be true that Dak was not THE problem while also being true true that Dak was A problem.

Since the QB is the lynch pin of the whole operation, when he is A problem he is closer to being THE problem than WR3 or RB2 etc, even when they are A problem.
 

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Where did I ever say I choose Dak over the team? Never have. Never will. You just can't handle the fact Dak is still your QB and most likely will continue to be for quite a while more. I wonder why the Cowboys are willing to keep Dak if he is as bad as you proclaim? The truth is Dak is not the problem. Your opinion is. How's that for facts? :p

Better yet, here, I will help better inform you. Check this film out...


Better question. Why would a simple comment concerning the relevance of "head to head" matchups with another poster warrant any response from you to begin with?
 

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Here is where the hardcore Dak defenders' logic goes haywire.

Football is a complex game requiring many facets of the totality of the team, performing well to achieve success.

There is almost always more than one problem leading to a lack of success.

In other words, it may be true that Dak was not THE problem while also being true true that Dak was A problem.

Since the QB is the lynch pin of the whole operation, when he is A problem he is closer to being THE problem than WR3 or RB2 etc, even when they are A problem.
What an ignorant response AFTER YOU KNOW VERY WELL Dak had no weapons around him (aside from CeeDee) ALL SEASON LONG, INCLUDING PLAYOFFS.

This is why you Dak detractors come off as disingenuous and not to be taken seriously.

PS: Nobody ever said Dak didn't contribute to mistakes committed by this Offense, but he certainly wasn't the problem. Mike Martz even explained how half of those INTs were not on Dak.

One can lead a horse to water, but one can't force it to drink.
 

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Better question. Why would a simple comment concerning the relevance of "head to head" matchups with another poster warrant any response from you to begin with?
Because you Dak detractors are amongst the worst at understanding football, what's truly happening and why.
 

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Because you Dak detractors are amongst the worst at understanding football, what's truly happening and why.
First, I wasn't saying anything to detract from Dak.

Second, what would you know or understand about objectively evaluating football? All you ever do is try to spin every angle to build your hero up. You are the poster child for being totally biased. Not for the team but one player & one player alone.

Third, my understanding of what really happens on the football field just keeps getting proven correct. Over & over. No amount of "talk" will change that.
 

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What an ignorant response AFTER YOU KNOW VERY WELL Dak had no weapons around him (aside from CeeDee) ALL SEASON LONG, INCLUDING PLAYOFFS.
Speaking of ignorant responses.

NO WEAPONS .... ALL SEASON LONG ......???

Somehow, I can't find stats to support that CD & Dak were the only players to move the ball or score.

Coulda saved Jerry some money if you had hustled on over before they offered TP $10 million.
 

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You know what's ridiculous? The over the top obsession the media has with Prescott's picks.

The top 5 pick throwers in NFL history

1. Favre
2. Blanda
3 Tarkenton
4. P. Manning
5. Marino

QB's take risks and throw picks, that's what they do. Prescott will take more risks this season because that's the job, he's there to make positive plays. Yes, the negative ones hurt and can get over emphasized but every QB has to play his game.

Prescott will play his game this season and I think he bounces back, just like all the other good QB's have to do.

The media is doing their best, because he's a Cowboy and for no other reason, to define his career with one season.

My only concern about him is his confidence level, he's human and all of this has to have some effect.
 

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What an ignorant response AFTER YOU KNOW VERY WELL Dak had no weapons around him (aside from CeeDee) ALL SEASON LONG, INCLUDING PLAYOFFS.

This is why you Dak detractors come off as disingenuous and not to be taken seriously.

PS: Nobody ever said Dak didn't contribute to mistakes committed by this Offense, but he certainly wasn't the problem. Mike Martz even explained how half of those INTs were not on Dak.

One can lead a horse to water, but one can't force it to drink.

You always come with this crap Dak had no weapons! Then how the hell did the Cowboys win 12 games in two seasons? No weapons, is that it? Oh, but when he craps the bed, well, Dak had no weapons. I guess those 12 teams the Cowboys won is because they let them win. smfh
 

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You know what's ridiculous? The over the top obsession the media has with Prescott's picks.

The top 5 pick throwers in NFL history

1. Favre
2. Blanda
3 Tarkenton
4. P. Manning
5. Marino

QB's take risks and throw picks, that's what they do. Prescott will take more risks this season because that's the job, he's there to make positive plays. Yes, the negative ones hurt and can get over emphasized but every QB has to play his game.

Prescott will play his game this season and I think he bounces back, just like all the other good QB's have to do.

The media is doing their best, because he's a Cowboy and for no other reason, to define his career with one season.

My only concern about him is his confidence level, he's human and all of this has to have some effect.
It has always been about the cause of an interception for me:
  • What did the quarterback see?
  • How did the defender react?
  • Was the intended receiver complicit?
  • Was it a ricochet?
...etc. And I apply the rationale to all quarterbacks and not just to a particular few or one.

I always think about Terry Bradshaw's NFL career when an interception conversation or sub-discussion pops up. His INT stats are 210 picks. He threw 212 touchdowns. The man has four Super Bowl rings. It is still a team game.

In my opinion, it would be better if interception statistics were subjective. It is something I have thought about since my twenties. Automatically applying a pick to the quarterback as the cause every time does not always make sense. Proper application of blame should be the standard, not the exception and certainly not as an excuse--especially for talking sports heads.
 

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The interesting thing about the Buc's championship season was that their defense was so good that, even though their offense was ranked 18th in points, the team was ranked 2nd in point differential. One thing their offense was good at was not turning the ball over. That team's defense was ranked #1 in both categories, points and yardage. However, they were also ranked #1 in turnover margin.

The Ravens first Super Bowl team was the same way. The offense was mediocre so they also focused on not turning the ball over. that team was ranked #1 in point margin and #2 in turnover margin.

Both of them shared the same formula, conservative offense, just wait for defense to do their thing and take advantage of the great field position. they didn't have to worry about scoring every drive, teh QB's were rarely put into pressure situations.

Which brings me back to this upcoming Cowboys season. If they can stay healthy what would prevent them from being the #1 defense this season? When we look at recent history, the Cowboys were #1 in turnover margin in 2021 for the first time in franchise history.

It could be that the most important thing the offense must this season do is not turn the ball over
Where we differ is I don’t think being the number one defense means what it used to mean. I don’t think those days are here anymore. You now need to have a quarterback that can get it done. We can agree to disagree. And believe me, in this case I hope you’re right. Not in the sense that I hope the Cowboys win the Super Bowl, but in the sense that defenses can still matter like that again.
 

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What an ignorant response AFTER YOU KNOW VERY WELL Dak had no weapons around him (aside from CeeDee) ALL SEASON LONG, INCLUDING PLAYOFFS.

This is why you Dak detractors come off as disingenuous and not to be taken seriously.

PS: Nobody ever said Dak didn't contribute to mistakes committed by this Offense, but he certainly wasn't the problem. Mike Martz even explained how half of those INTs were not on Dak.

One can lead a horse to water, but one can't force it to drink.
Another way to describe our unfortunate dilemma with our QB goes as follows.........A Glue factory HORSE cannot win the Kentucky Derby.
 
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