Cowherd: "It's ridiculous to expect Dak to get over the hump, as it would be for Kirk Cousins."

[rnr_honeybadger]

You should be more mad at him for not saying anything on Amari's departure, Gallup will at best always be a no 3, last year he was a no 3 as in the 3rd worst separator in the league last year and Brown was the worst. For everything clamoring onto his leadership skills letting Cooper go cost them any chance against the niners. Him and Cousins are the same, if it weren't for the dual threat you could argue in favor of Cousins due to having a worse team. Also he never spoke up about having a back that should have been a backup 3 years ago. Leadership is pretty pointless if you have better talent on the team and you don't put them on the field due to personal convictions, if that's the case you should be a politician.

People mistake pointless bluster and spouting the company line as “leadership.”

 

[PAPPYDOG]

People mistake pointless bluster and spouting the company line as “leadership.”

When talent is lacking you sell leadership, goodwill(Walter would be proud), and the nice guy gig to the tilt.
Can't sell his skills or accomplishments are there are few to zero.
Just follow the money......and Dak and Todd would sell there mama for another massive underserving contract.
Holy Cow I just pointed to the sky......I wonder why?????

 

[McKDaddy]

That's just the thing you didn't school anybody, you just showed the public you're one of the hypocrites who love goal post lifting. Try harder next time kid!!

You are the one wanting to pretend head to head record of QB's means something. Do you make the same argument when we compare Aaron R to Dak?

Nope and that's because the unhinged defenders are the ultimate goal post movers. Somehow convinced that everyone else can't see them flip flopping about the same stats meaning based solely on whether it helps or hurts their favorite player. Or boss? Sure seem like some of you are on the payroll trying to keep someone's credibility afloat.

PS - the truth don't have to try harder. It stands on its own and nothing can take it down.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Be careful Jake.
Your voice of reason with supporting factual data here is the absolute truth.
BUT unfortunately there's a mob here waiting to turn this into a situation where you're now branded hater or even worse from Prescott Incorporated...
the dreaded "troll" insult.

Welcome.
Lol.

If Dak is so bad, then why does he have to use Mahomes as to prove it?

Anyone that has to use Mahomes or Brady to make a point about a QB doenst have one.

Dak is a top 10 QB. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[GINeric]

You are the one wanting to pretend head to head record of QB's means something. Do you make the same argument when we compare Aaron R to Dak?

Nope and that's because the unhinged defenders are the ultimate goal post movers. Somehow convinced that everyone else can't see them flip flopping about the same stats meaning based solely on whether it helps or hurts their favorite player. Or boss? Sure seem like some of you are on the payroll trying to keep someone's credibility afloat.

PS - the truth don't have to try harder. It stands on its own and nothing can take it down.

And the truth is, I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan. A fan of every player on the team from the starters to the practice squad players.

I'll celebrate players when earned and I'll criticize when deserved. Apparently you're new to the board, because if you were around, you would have seen when I was in favor of benching Dak for the rest of the season if Rush was able to win that Eagles game, when Rush was playing well. That's on record son!!

The only credibility I care about is the credibility of the entire Dallas Cowboys. I'm not like the weak ones like yourself who cheer against Dak, but cheer FOR the other 52 players.

There are alot of Cowboys fans who have legitimate gripes against Dak and rightfully so. I have no problem with them because they present real, legit facts of what disappointed them concerning his play.

But they don't give the rest of the team all the credit for wins, and all of the blame for losses solely on Dak.

Like I said.... according to weak ones like you, it's a team game when Dak plays well, but it's QB vs QB records when Dak doesn't play well.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

It’s two round ahead of where Brady was selected

Oh wow, really? Gee, never knew Brady was picked that low!

No need to berate the obvious. And what about quarterbacks like Newton, Bradford, Russell, Winston, Carr, Couch, Palmer, Testaverde and others, All FIRST ROUND

 

[LACowboysFan1]

When you throw the same play that SHOUYLD have been intercepted...that got intercepted....how can you possibly blame coaching?

Even if the coach demanded you throw the exact same play, as was suggested....WHY?

At some point the player's instinct and intellect must take over. If he succeeds the coach has no choice but to go along.

Good coaching has effects beyond specific plays, nobody says it trumps everything else. But for exampe, what about Russell Wilson? What happened to his "instinct and intellect" in Seattle's SB loss? You have a risky pass into the teeth of the defense, when you have a running back that has probably a 90% chance of rushing for a touchdown and you blitely go along with the coach's call? And Wilson already "won" a SB, so he's proven, by your standards, that he does have the "instinct and intellect", but yet he basically lost the game on that one play.

Every qb has made dumb ints, as in P. Manning against the Saints. The oft quoted Brady "won" 7 SBs but he also lost 3.

Dak ain't perfect, but no qb is.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Good coaching has effects beyond specific plays, nobody says it trumps everything else. But for exampe, what about Russell Wilson? What happened to his "instinct and intellect" in Seattle's SB loss? You have a risky pass into the teeth of the defense, when you have a running back that has probably a 90% chance of rushing for a touchdown and you blitely go along with the coach's call? And Wilson already "won" a SB, so he's proven, by your standards, that he does have the "instinct and intellect", but yet he basically lost the game on that one play.

Every qb has made dumb ints, as in P. Manning against the Saints. The oft quoted Brady "won" 7 SBs but he also lost 3.

Dak ain't perfect, but no qb is.

So tell me...who you have seen...throw a pass that was almost...SHOULDHAVE BEEN intercepted. It was dropped imagine that.

Then went and threw the EXACT same play...that was intercepted. And a TD? (sorry can;t remember)

I mean come now. Even if KM thought it would be a great idea to...surprise them...why can't Dak see it's the exact same play..the exact same player...doing the exact same thing?

This goes back to people who talk about Dak reading a defense.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

If Dak is so bad, then why does he have to use Mahomes as to prove it?

Anyone that has to use Mahomes or Brady to make a point about a QB doenst have one.

Dak is a top 10 QB. Nothing more, nothing less.

First and foremost he makes Mahomes money and more than Brady got paid.
2nd you are correct we should be comparing him to Tier 3 QB like Cousins etc.
Stating Dak is a top 10 QB is a travesty and laughter fills the room.
Now hit us up when he can beat a defense with a pulse, will you.......
P.S. The Niners called and want to meet up again soonest as they need to increase their interception count.

 

[McKDaddy]

QB vs QB records when Dak doesn't play well.

You can't even keep your stories straight thru one post. It's you who was spouting Dak's record vs Cousins. I said it meant nothing. That's on record. Son. (you're so funny with all you cliche comments trying to be a tough guy)

I give everyone credit or blame for what they do. But I don't stoop to meaningless comparisons.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Stating Dak is a top 10 QB is a travesty and laughter fills the room.

Oh? Think Stephen A. Smith wants to be laughge at?

Because he said Dak was a top FIVE quarterback.

Nobody laughs at a quarterback being rated at a particular spot as compared to other quarterbacks except so called "fans" who no. 1 probably aren't really Cowboys fans and no. 2 any quarterback who is a starter in the NFL and wins more games than they lose is a darned good quarterback and deserves at least some respect.

There are dozens and dozens of starting college quarterbacks that are available to play in the NFL every year, but only 32 are granted starter status. They are the "cream of the crop", and to state one of them "sux" is about as dumb a statement as you can make....

 

[GINeric]

You can't even keep your stories straight thru one post. It's you who was spouting Dak's record vs Cousins. I said it meant nothing. That's on record. Son. (you're so funny with all you cliche comments trying to be a tough guy)

I give everyone credit or blame for what they do. But I don't stoop to meaningless comparisons.

You have alot to say when I use qb vs qb comparison, but where were you when others use the same qb vs qb comparison? You're nowhere to be found. So miss me with that.

(I am what I am, I don't try to be anything on the internet. I prefer up close, same space conversations when necessary. I'll leave the keyboard toughness to you son)

 

[McKDaddy]

You have alot to say when I use qb vs qb comparison, but where were you when others use the same qb vs qb comparison? You're nowhere to be found. So miss me with that.

(I am what I am, I don't try to be anything on the internet. I prefer up close, same space conversations when necessary. I'll leave the keyboard toughness to you son)

If you hadn't ended your first response with "conversation over" I probably wouldn't have responded any further to you.

When you are disrespectful, I'm going to call you out. Even more so when the crap you are spewing is wrong \ irrelevant.

 

[JoeKing]

Dak can win, just got to put the team around him. The NFC doesn't look to have too many good teams. The Cowboys have a legit shot.

Listen to yourself. You sound like a moron when you talk with so much blind faith in Dak. He hasn't done anything to support the statements you say about him. He's just as terrible as the rest of the NFC.

 

[GINeric]

If you hadn't ended your first response with "conversation over" I probably wouldn't have responded any further to you.

When you are disrespectful, I'm going to call you out. Even more so when the crap you are spewing is wrong \ irrelevant.

Well I definitely agree. So that's why I had to call you out on your hypocrisy. A quarterback category sticks for one quarterback, but not for the other quarterbacks huh.

Keep it movin lil dude. You're not making any sense.

Like I said before.... conversation over.

 

[Flamma]

Listen to yourself. You sound like a moron when you talk with so much blind faith in Dak. He hasn't done anything to support the statements you say about him. He's just as terrible as the rest of the NFC.

What do you expect me to say jackass? I don't like the QB anymore than you do. But I have to have some hope, or I couldn't watch. But the reality is, other teams in the NFC don't have great QBs either. Goff, Jones, Geno Snith, Cousins, Purdy, and Hurts aren't all that. I know people love Hurts, but if he had to be a pocket passer he would suck! So yeah, in the NFC we have a shot with Dak. In the AFC, zero chance.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

What do you expect me to say jackass? I don't like the QB anymore than you do. But I have to have some hope, or I couldn't watch. But the reality is, other teams in the NFC don't have great QBs either. Goff, Jones, Geno Snith, Cousins, Purdy, and Hurts aren't all that. I know people love Hurts, but if he had to be a pocket passer he would suck! So yeah, in the NFC we have a shot with Dak. In the AFC, zero chance.

Goff, Jones, Geno Snith, Cousins, Purdy, and Hurts are either on the same level or better than Dak.

 

[Flamma]

Goff, Jones, Geno Snith, Cousins, Purdy, and Hurts are either on the same level or better than Dak.

Yeah, there isn't much difference there. If there is, it's minimal. We don't have a lot of real difference makers in the NFL at QB anymore. Give any of those QBs the better team with better weapons, they'll beat out the others.

Brady, Brees, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, they're all gone. Who do we have left at their level? Rodgers, Mahomes, and Burrow. That's it. Allen and Herbert are really good, but can we really put them in the category of the QBs I've mentioned? Not yet.

 

[McKDaddy]

Well I definitely agree. So that's why I had to call you out on your hypocrisy. A quarterback category sticks for one quarterback, but not for the other quarterbacks huh.

Keep it movin lil dude. You're not making any sense.

Like I said before.... conversation over.

Where is the evidence that I have ever referenced that particular stat for any QB?

Made up in your feeble mind is the only place it exists. Everyone can see that you were trying to prop up your boss and when it was pointed out the stat you were using was meaningless you couldn't handle it. Had to start trying to cover over your factual inconsistencies with bravado thinking you could bluff your way thru it.

It's a discussion board. Not you talk and everyone goes along with whatever nonsense you are spewing. But the rabid Dak Davidian's like yourself are triggered whenever even the slightest comment might not fully support your hero's greatness. Your immediate response is to attack the person because you can't refute the arguments.

You live up to your moniker. You are a "Gineric" Dak Davidian. Every response is "blame the other person, refusing to answer direct questions that would prove the point, revisionist history about what was said and by who, trying to change the narrative" it's all straight outta ya'lls playbook.

You were wrong before and you are wrong now. The conversation is only over when I say it's over.

 

[jazzcat22]

hum, the offense had no weapons? so what was Moore supposed to do? Oh, get a job on a better team with a better Quarterback. LMAO scapegoating is over Moore enjoy your new scenery.

Moore / Herbert vs MM / Dak will be one of the more interesting story lines and debate topics this. And I am sure the weapons for each team will come up, for and against excuses for both sides.
Oh, as well, who has the better OL also will come into play.

I do want to see LAC do well. not because of Moore, but because I would like to see them knock off KC. I can care less about the debate. I will not root against Moore just to prove and point or to disprove something. I just want them to knock off KC.