Crayton and Holley: Jason Garrett sabotaged Wade Phillips (audio)

[BigStar]

I thought this was already well known...just look at the offensive game plans after Wade is released.

 

[Cebrin]

Can't trust me either then.

 

[BigStar]

It seems like you would make that sort of adjustment at 1-4, 1-5, or 1-6 if that was the reason you were installing a new playbook. Why wait until your season is entirely shot to switch to what you think would be a more productive playbook?

That's kinda the part that I'm thinking about the most. Their claims are simply how they viewed the situation so maybe they are wrong........less likely than just a single account but whatever. I'm not too concerned with their take.

I think the new playbook does raise questions though.

The news about the new playbook coming out immediately after Wade's release, taking into account that JG already had total control of the offense is a dead give away. Like you state, why wait until mid season for THAT adjustment? Doesn't make any sense @ 1-7. Many fans observed the difference in basic play calling as the team "fought" its way back under JG and the O was miraculously productive again. It could be incompetence (as we have found out in greater detail the last 3 seasons) coupled with an ego battle bw JG and Wade more so than active sabotage; doesn't change the results and where this team is now.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Of course he did. Where do you think the famous ESPN locker room leaks came from?

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Garrett is too incompetent to sabotage anybody...............he can barely figure out when to use timeouts, so for him to have some master plan he was operating behind the scenes is questionable.

But he is a skilled politician, so maybe he could work out some backroom subterfuge.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Can't trust me either then.

Sweet! Beautiful bride.

 

[TheDude]

Can't trust me either then.

daywalker I see...

 

[speedkilz88]

Fasinating stuff. As aven8 said, the way Garrett has proven to be such a blame-dodging politician, this wouldn't surprise me a bit. Either way, handing out entire new playbooks is bizarre to say the least.

And for everyone launching ad hominems against Crayton... Parcells pretty much loved him. I'll take his judgment over the Red Trainee's any day.

Parcells loved Keyshawn Johnson, even trading Joey Galloway for him. Game, set, match.

Crayton also went downhill under TOs influence.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Exhibit A:

Swing pass to Tashard Choice 5 seconds before the half on our own side of the field

 

[Zekeats]

Wouldn't doubt it at all......but not to sure Garret is that smart. I mean he does call only 8 plays now.

 

[TheDude]

Exhibit A:

Swing pass to Tashard Choice 5 seconds before the half on our own side of the field

Id almost forgotten that - Thanks.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Refuse to click on any link from that hack's website.

You do understand the link takes you to a radio interview with Holley and Crayton? And both toss Garrett under the bus for using one offense until Wade was fired and then another after.

I mean I understand grudges, but this is players speaking out about the petulant behavior of the current head coach.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Id almost forgotten that - Thanks.

That play is seared in to my mind.

It should be shown at coaches seminars under the title WHAT NOT TO DO

Lost that game 13-7 by the way.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

LOL just watched the highlights.

4 seconds left at the snap of the ball. From our own 30.

If that doesnt indicate a coach that doesnt care about the repercussions of what he decides, then nothing ever will.

 

[Little Jr]

We can't listen to former Cowboy players from the past 7 years because they are bitter and have an agenda.

 

[Idgit]

Interesting to listen to, at any rate. One could drive a truck through some of the holes in the augments if either of the hosts had bothered to ask anything but leading questions, though. Obviously, Crayton did not like Garrett, and that's part of the reason why the player was traded. I'm not sure what Holley's issue was. It's pretty obvious that Crayton, Barber, TO and Choice were among the group of players Garrett ran off when he took over. He probably did it for a good reason, and now these guys are returning the favors.

What do you guys make of the idea that the team was completely bifurcated under Wade? Angry at Jerry for allowing that? At Wade for tolerating it? It seems a ridiculous assertion, if true.

Regarding the play books, I don't think it's all that surprising that an offensive HC would implement a set of plays his defensive predecessor did not have him running. It'd have been nice to hear more about how the defense changed under Garrett, as well. Neither side of the ball stayed the same through the transition, so I don't know why it'd be surprising to anyone that the offense changed somewhat, overnight.

 

[TheDude]

Interesting to listen to, at any rate. One could drive a truck through some of the holes in the augments if either of the hosts had bothered to ask anything but leading questions, though. Obviously, Crayton did not like Garrett, and that's part of the reason why the player was traded. I'm not sure what Holley's issue was. It's pretty obvious that Crayton, Barber, TO and Choice were among the group of players Garrett ran off when he took over. He probably did it for a good reason, and now these guys are returning the favors.

What do you guys make of the idea that the team was completely bifurcated under Wade? Angry at Jerry for allowing that? At Wade for tolerating it? It seems a ridiculous assertion, if true.

Regarding the play books, I don't think it's all that surprising that an offensive HC would implement a set of plays his defensive predecessor did not have him running. It'd have been nice to hear more about how the defense changed under Garrett, as well. Neither side of the ball stayed the same through the transition, so I don't know why it'd be surprising to anyone that the offense changed somewhat, overnight.

The playbook thing may not have been a huge issue in retrospect. Romo was on IR and it was Kitna's 3rd game. He was a much better deep passer not as nimble.

The dysfunction stems from hiring an OC before HC. Can't say that is ever the norm, except Washington

 

[Idgit]

The playbook thing may not have been a huge issue in retrospect. Romo was on IR and it was Kitna's 3rd game. He was a much better deep passer not as nimble.

The dysfunction stems from hiring an OC before HC. Can't say that is ever the norm, except Washington

I agree. Whenever I hear stories like this about what goes on in an NFL locker room, I can't ever believe it. The Dallas stuff goes without saying. The sort of dysfunction that would have to go on to run a team's offense and defense completely separately, I can't even comprehend.

The same stuff sounds to be going on in SF's locker room these days. Key players not getting along with the head coach, spats between the HC and the GM. For a billion-dollar organization that's dependent on camaraderie and teamwork, that boggles my mind.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Dallas has no norm. Jerry is in charge.

 

[casmith07]

Interesting to listen to, at any rate. One could drive a truck through some of the holes in the augments if either of the hosts had bothered to ask anything but leading questions, though. Obviously, Crayton did not like Garrett, and that's part of the reason why the player was traded. I'm not sure what Holley's issue was. It's pretty obvious that Crayton, Barber, TO and Choice were among the group of players Garrett ran off when he took over. He probably did it for a good reason, and now these guys are returning the favors.

What do you guys make of the idea that the team was completely bifurcated under Wade? Angry at Jerry for allowing that? At Wade for tolerating it? It seems a ridiculous assertion, if true.

Regarding the play books, I don't think it's all that surprising that an offensive HC would implement a set of plays his defensive predecessor did not have him running. It'd have been nice to hear more about how the defense changed under Garrett, as well. Neither side of the ball stayed the same through the transition, so I don't know why it'd be surprising to anyone that the offense changed somewhat, overnight.

Coincidentally, none of those guys that were given a swift kick in the pants are either in the league anymore or doing anything of note. I think Choice is still on the Bills roster but never dresses.