Crayton and Holley: Jason Garrett sabotaged Wade Phillips (audio)

[ConstantReboot]

I don't know about the unprofessional aspect, but over the past 3 seasons I have watched Garrett botch games with horrendous blunders that not even coaches in pee wee football make.

Very hard for me to believe he has the intellectual ability to pull of a master plan of sabotage while Wade was here. Some point to the swing pass to Choice that was fumbled and returned for a TD as proof Garrett didn't care if something bad happened..................I disagree, I think Garrett is actually that big of an idiot to call a play like that.

Maybe I am wrong, but when a 10 yr old playing Madden can manage a game better than Garrett, it tells me he is just incompetent, not unprofessional.

Yes Garrett is dumb enough to call those plays. He iced his own kicker didn't he? He also called several pass plays to led to Romo INTs and has not learned to sometimes lean on a run play here and there to take pressure away from Romo. Garrett is the worst enemy of this team. He knows how to snatch defeat from the verge of a victory. Every year its the same story. We blow leads in the final moments of the game because of some sort of mishap. This year it was Detroit, Denver and Green Bay. Those games were more than winnable. However, Garrett just does not know the PROCESS of winning those close games.

 

[Cebrin]

Great photo.
Gorgeous wife.
What area were in in for that?

The Picture was taken in Wa. We both have family close to the coast of Washington. I can't lie, I took a little pride in watching the worlds "greatest" QB get his booty delivered to him on a plate facing a real defense. At least I always bleed silver and blue. No matter who I am excited for lol. However, I grew up with my grandmother sewing silver and blue star coasters. Went to my first Boys game in 83. Cowboys is fused in me. I'm only a sidewalk Hawks fan.

 

[Cebrin]

Look, I'm not ready to "defend" any coach on this team much less any GM or scout. What I do know is, Garrett has a lot more clout than either of those twats. The "Talks in Princeton circles" crap made me laugh. Way to immediately discredit your intelligence. The fact that Garrett is smarter was proven by Craytons abysmal performance on the field. Maybe he had to dumb the plays down for players who were flat out stupid.?! So stupid, that changing to stupid plays DIDN'T MAKE SENSE EITHER!?! I've watched Romo have to TELL RECEIVERS WHERE TO STAND!! Lmao. That's his fault though right? Ya know, I'm not a giant Garrett fan but, I'll take scrutiny a lot faster from someone MUCH more credible. There's always a painting. But, every stroke tells a story. The big story is, this franchise is a JOKE. Because THIS is what we've to talk about. Patrick "Nobody" Crayton. What were we talking about?

 

[Cebrin]

Im not a fan of either Crayton Holly. But Garrett's plays were flat out stupid. So I don't blame them for taking this public. Garrett's plays are stupid and he was hyped up like no other OC who has never, ever called plays before.

Didn't listen to the audio but I believed that Garrett was the problem with the team during Wade's tenure. Garrett should have been canned and should have never, ever been given head coach position. Wade may have been a bum. Garrett was worst because his still around and still bringing forth mediocrity to a once proud football team.

Try listening before speaking. It's a good story. Even if you're listening subjectively. I'm not big on Wade or Garrett. I'd still much rather have a coach that thrives for perfection than one that say "Okay" "Let's wrap it up. " The problem is bigger than coaching alone.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Try listening before speaking. It's a good story. Even if you're listening subjectively. I'm not big on Wade or Garrett. I'd still much rather have a coach that thrives for perfection than one that say "Okay" "Let's wrap it up. " The problem is bigger than coaching alone.

Just because I posted and stated that I didn't listen doesn't mean I didn't. Which I did. Honestly, I actually find it much more interesting and more believable. More respect for Crayton that he still has respect for Jerry and that he asked legit questions about the offense which we all saw in the Garrett's playcalling. Im also more pissed at Garrett than ever before. Garrett doesn't thrive for perfection. If he did he wouldn't have tanked Wade's season with the preseason playbook. Then when Wade got fired he finally showed the real playbook. That too me is sabotage. Shame on Jason and too bad for our Cowboys team who has to deal with a fake headcoach who tanked the offense in order to get promoted to head coach.

Don't believe Crayton or Jessie Holley? I rather believe these players since they played for Garrett. Frankly, they pointed out the obvious about his playcalling. I would rather believe them then some of those here who do nothing but praise Garrett for being such a great coach these last 3 years. Go figure.

 

[DragonCowboy]

Wade Phillips is 100x the coach Jason could ever hope to be. I'm just hoping this ginger nightmare ends after this season. The worst thing that could happen is a 9-7 sneak into the wild card

 

[Tawney88]

2 sour pussies, whining about sour grapes, who cares, if Garrett sabotaged Wade, Wade is an average HC, but a very good DC, he needed to get fired , heck he should not have ever been hired as the HC.

I care shows his level of integrity and what type if man he is. Wade was a bad head coach and should have never been hired to this point I can say the same about Garrett.

 

[Cebrin]

Just because I posted and stated that I didn't listen doesn't mean I didn't. Which I did. Honestly, I actually find it much more interesting and more believable. More respect for Crayton that he still has respect for Jerry and that he asked legit questions about the offense which we all saw in the Garrett's playcalling. Im also more pissed at Garrett than ever before. Garrett doesn't thrive for perfection. If he did he wouldn't have tanked Wade's season with the preseason playbook. Then when Wade got fired he finally showed the real playbook. That too me is sabotage. Shame on Jason and too bad for our Cowboys team who has to deal with a fake headcoach who tanked the offense in order to get promoted to head coach.

Don't believe Crayton or Jessie Holley? I rather believe these players since they played for Garrett. Frankly, they pointed out the obvious about his playcalling. I would rather believe them then some of those here who do nothing but praise Garrett for being such a great coach these last 3 years. Go figure.

I hear ya. I'm no huge Garrett fan by any means. However, his defense crapped too so it can't be blamed entirely on Garrett. When we went 13-3 we were ranked 4th overall in defense. The following year we were ranked 19th. Then 8th. Then 21st......Up, Down........Typical of the Cowboys and no different than what we're getting now. Honestly, I think they've both failed to take this team to the next level. Not to mention JJ.

 

[burmafrd]

biggest argument against Red Ball doing sabotage is that he is just not good enough to be that tricky

 

[Alexander]

What you're saying is that they're lying right?

Of course. They are just disgruntled former Cowboys. The only Cowboys who have credibility are those currently on the team.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

You can't win when your team is divided like that. No wonder they choked.

 

[Alexander]

None of this is new..

It was already reported that Wade only controlled the defense and didn't participate in the offense.

It was already known the Cowboys changed the game plan when Garrett came on board.

It was already known that Wade wanted to bring in Dan Reeves to oversee the offense, which was squashed .

Agreed, that was pretty much the speculation at the time and it was not hard to see.

Garrett did not have to report to Phillips and each side of the football was doing its own thing.

 

[Alexander]

Aside from his drop against the Giants, Crayton was a very serviceable player in Dallas. Don't understand the hatred for him regardless of his mouth.

He got wrapped up in the T.O. business too much, but he was a decent player for a late round choice. And yes, people get all wrapped up, blaming him exclusively for the Giants loss. But otherwise, it is a team game right? I guess that fact changes depending on whether or not the player is in a Cowboy uniform anymore.

 

[DanManJ]

Wade Phillips is 100x the coach Jason could ever hope to be. I'm just hoping this ginger nightmare ends after this season. The worst thing that could happen is a 9-7 sneak into the wild card

Wow I love my fellow Cowboys fans. There is never a good reason for a fan to want his team to lose so you saying you hope we do bad in hopes of getting Garrett fired is the lowest of the low. If any fan, like some in this thread, are rooting against this team next season then you are no longer a fan and need to unplug and move on. Frankly its embarrassing that we have people like this that take part in representing this fan base.

 

[Proximo]

Wade Phillips is 100x the coach Jason could ever hope to be. I'm just hoping this ginger nightmare ends after this season. The worst thing that could happen is a 9-7 sneak into the wild card

This "ginger nightmare" is only going to end if we miss the playoffs again in 2014. Have fun hoping we miss the playoffs.




Some of this fan base is outright embarrassing.

 

[Alexander]

Some of this fan base is outright embarrassing.

Is it any different from how people wanted the Phillips era to end? Campo getting fired? Not from what I see.

 

[theogt]

I have no doubt in my mind that with every opportunity he had Garrett was painting a poor picture of Wade in Jerry's head. He's a weasel.

 

[Dodger12]

Some of this fan base is outright embarrassing.

Your telling me. How we go from Captain Comeback, America's Team, the Flex/Doomsday Defense, the Hail Mary, 20 straight winning seasons, the Triplets, the Dynasty, to where we are today only to have some portion of the fan base continually defend it is absolutely disgraceful.

 

[Proximo]

Is it any different from how people wanted the Phillips era to end? Campo getting fired? Not from what I see.

I don't care about that and it doesn't matter. If you want to defend fans who hope we lose to support an agenda that's your business. I couldn't care less.

I'm a Cowboys fan. I hope we win, and I hope we have success. Every week, every season.

Seeing "fans" hope we lose just so they can see someone they dislike get fired is disgusting.

 

[khiladi]

He never said Garrett got mad. That's your personal bias speaking, not Crayton/Holley. He said Garrett would give him a run-around answer that didn't really answer the question.

Doubts/concerns about the scheme are fine when brought up in private. Not in front of the entire team. If you did that to your boss in front of all his employees he wouldn't like it either.

And LOL at the notion that you know offensive football better than Jason Garrett does. Or the notion that you have any clue what you're talking about in regards to our protection scheme principles and whether or not Garrett "adjusts".

Romo gettin sacked 39 times multiple years in a row is quite the evidence...