Current draft order - Cowboys at 9

[conner01]

Have faith. We're only 1 win better than those teams . Still 7-8 games remaining.....

But they have to win 2 because of the SOS tiebreaker. Almost every team above us has a weaker SOS so if we are tied they pick first

 

[KJJ]

Ok, cool man. I didn’t ask what kind of fan you were when I noted the Pittsburgh win is probably going to keep us on the outside looking in of a top 5 pick.

I couldn’t care less if that win keeps us out of the top 5. That was an important win that put us at 3-2. It’s ridiculous to look back and say that win will come back to haunt us because our season went in the toilet. A top 5 or top 10 pick doesn’t assure landing a good player. Most of them don’t turn out to be great players. I want to see our young players improve and the team get better than to stink it up the rest of the season for a high draft pick.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

I couldn’t care less if that win keeps us out of the top 5. That was an important win that put us at 3-2. It’s ridiculous to look back and say that win will come back to haunt us because our season went in the toilet. A top 5 or top 10 pick doesn’t assure landing a good player. Most of them don’t turn out to be great players.

A top-5 pick guarantees nothing, correct, but it’s a heck of a consolation prize for a lost season.

 

[blueblood70]

I couldn’t care less if that win keeps us out of the top 5. That was an important win that put us at 3-2. It’s ridiculous to look back and say that win will come back to haunt us because our season went in the toilet. A top 5 or top 10 pick doesn’t assure landing a good player. Most of them don’t turn out to be great players.

Is Siri better than picking in the bottom 10 I think just about every player we've picked in the top 10 has turned out to be great and don't say Ezekiel Elliott wasn't great he was great for four years longevity in this league is not guaranteed but show me a top ten player that the Dallas Cowboys picked that turned out to be a bust I mean you saying not great I'm trying to figure out what you mean by that we don't get that many opportunities which is odd right the irony here is the Dallas Cowboys fans and the zoners think the Cowboys are bad because of what we do in the playoffs but the fact is we pick so late in the pip but the fact is we picked so late in the draft it's hard to remember these the last one I remember this high was Ezekiel Elliott number four overall he turned out yes straight outta the gate one of the best rookie years ever by a running back in the NFL is top 4 his rookie year was basically Tony Dorsett and Emma Smith's rookie year put together in his first four years had he not been suspended he might have had three titles rushing titles in a row coming out of college I'd say that that was a pic that turned out great what else who have we picked in the top 10 let's discuss

 

[J12B]

Jags and Titans play each other twice

Jags play the Jets

Jags play the Raiders

Lose to the Panthers and Giants

That puts them top 5

I'll take it. That was the most exciting game of the season for me.

Browns was the most fun one to watch.

 

[blueblood70]

A top-5 pick guarantees nothing, correct, but it’s a heck of a consolation prize for a lost season.

Right no guarantees that it's a better guarantee than the bottom 10 'cause that's what we've been picking lately is bottom 10 /2016 is the last time we picked in the top five but I don't remember the last time we picked that high and not hit on the player.. 2016 turned out to be a very good draft by the way..

 

[KJJ]

A top-5 pick guarantees nothing, correct, but it’s a heck of a consolation prize for a lost season.

Jerry could end up trading down for more picks or the player we want goes off the board. We might get the player we want and they end up going bust or they simply don’t develop into as good a player as we hoped. The draft is a crapshoot. Some of our best players were taken outside the top 10. Parsons, CeeDee, DLaw, Zack, Pollard, and Dak just to name a few were drafted outside the top 10.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

Jerry could end up trading down for more picks or the player we want goes off the board. We might get the player we want and they end up going bust or they simply don’t develop into as good a player as we hoped. The draft is a crapshoot. Some of our best players were taken outside the top 10. Parsons, CeeDee, DLaw, Zack, Pollard, and Dak just to name a few were drafted outside the top 10.

Top talent can come from anywhere, but true blue chippers can really only be had early in the draft. This is an indisputable fact.

 

[KJJ]

Top talent can come from anywhere, but true blue chippers can really only be had early in the draft. This is an indisputable fact.

It’s an indisputable fact that blue chip talent can come from any round in the draft. Most of the players in the HOF weren’t high draft picks. The Cowboys have several players in the HOF that weren’t high draft picks.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

It’s an indisputable fact that blue chip talent can come from any round in the draft. Most of the players in the HOF weren’t high draft picks. The Cowboys have several players in the HOF that weren’t high draft picks.

Again, yes, but you have a higher hit % the higher you pick.

With every pick that comes off the board, the chance they are a bust goes up.

I saw an interesteing article on it a year or two ago, but forget where it was from.

Edit: found something close (https://www.theidpshow.com/p/examining-the-rookie-hit-rate-2018)

Are you denying the fact that 1st rounders hit more often than 2nd rounders, 2nd more than 3rd, and so on? I guess I don’t understand the point trying to be made here. Of course a higher pick is preferable to a lower one.

 

[TheDank]

I'm expecting us to get down to around 5 looking at the remaining teams. A lot depends on the giants and panthers games.

 

[mmohican29]

I couldn’t care less if that win keeps us out of the top 5. That was an important win that put us at 3-2. It’s ridiculous to look back and say that win will come back to haunt us because our season went in the toilet. A top 5 or top 10 pick doesn’t assure landing a good player. Most of them don’t turn out to be great players. I want to see our young players improve and the team get better than to stink it up the rest of the season for a high draft pick.

This is an atrocious football team. Horrifyingly bad.

 

[KingintheNorth]

Not at all. You now seem hell bent on trying to prove yourself right. I'm not interested in playing that game.

Cool.

I think you are right though. Thus all the success on the field.

 

[McCarthyMustGo]

Jesus… I don’t think our draft position is gonna change much….

Win a few meaningless games and drop to 15 range.

 

[KJJ]

Again, yes, but you have a higher hit % the higher you pick.

With every pick that comes off the board, the chance they are a bust goes up.

I saw an interesteing article on it a year or two ago, but forget where it was from.

Edit: found something close (https://www.theidpshow.com/p/examining-the-rookie-hit-rate-2018)

Are you denying the fact that 1st rounders hit more often than 2nd rounders, 2nd more than 3rd, and so on? I guess I don’t understand the point trying to be made here. Of course a higher pick is preferable to a lower one.

I never said first rounders don’t hit more than second rounders but the odds of a top 10 pick developing into a great player is no better than 50-50. You can still hit on great players after the top 5 and top 10. The last top 10 pick the Cowboys had was Morris Claiborne and he went bust. We even traded up to get him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

2016 turned out to be a very good draft by the way..

2016 was a bad draft. Wasted the 4th overall pick on a RB when it should have been Ramsey. Wasted the 34th pick on Jaylon and could have had D. Henry. Brown was serviceable for a few years. Prescott was fools gold. Now look where we are with him. The rest of the draft were busts.

Round Pick Player Position College Notes
1 4 Ezekiel Elliott RB Ohio State
2 34 Jaylon Smith OLB Notre Dame
3 67 Maliek Collins DT Nebraska
4 101 Charles Tapper DE Oklahoma
4 135 Dak Prescott QB Mississippi State Compensatory
6 189 Anthony Brown CB Purdue From Oakland
6 212 Kavon Frazier S Central Michigan Compensatory
6 216 Darius Jackson RB Eastern Michigan Compensatory
6 217 Rico Gathers TE Baylor Compensatory

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

2016 was a bad draft. Wasted the 4th overall pick on a RB when it should have been Ramsey. Wasted the 34th pick on Jaylon and could have had D. Henry. Brown was serviceable for a few years. Prescott was fools gold. Now look where we are with him. The rest of the draft were busts.

Round Pick Player Position College Notes
1 4 Ezekiel Elliott RB Ohio State
2 34 Jaylon Smith OLB Notre Dame
3 67 Maliek Collins DT Nebraska
4 101 Charles Tapper DE Oklahoma
4 135 Dak Prescott QB Mississippi State Compensatory
6 189 Anthony Brown CB Purdue From Oakland
6 212 Kavon Frazier S Central Michigan Compensatory
6 216 Darius Jackson RB Eastern Michigan Compensatory
6 217 Rico Gathers TE Baylor Compensatory

Prescott and Elliot were both All Pros at some point in their career, Collins started a ton of games in the league, and Jaylon Smith even made a Pro Bowl.

Yeah, it’s not perfect, but I think most teams would take that draft most years.

 

[blueblood70]

2016 was a bad draft. Wasted the 4th overall pick on a RB when it should have been Ramsey. Wasted the 34th pick on Jaylon and could have had D. Henry. Brown was serviceable for a few years. Prescott was fools gold. Now look where we are with him. The rest of the draft were busts.

Round Pick Player Position College Notes
1 4 Ezekiel Elliott RB Ohio State
2 34 Jaylon Smith OLB Notre Dame
3 67 Maliek Collins DT Nebraska
4 101 Charles Tapper DE Oklahoma
4 135 Dak Prescott QB Mississippi State Compensatory
6 189 Anthony Brown CB Purdue From Oakland
6 212 Kavon Frazier S Central Michigan Compensatory
6 216 Darius Jackson RB Eastern Michigan Compensatory
6 217 Rico Gathers TE Baylor Compensatory

I say It was NOT... You can't have a bad draft when you find your franchise quarterback in the fourth round ,it flips ,

and I know this is gonna blow your mind but it's not about the draft slots it's about the players you get so it flips,

just imagine for a minute with your eyes closed, We draft Prescott 4th overall and took Elliot in the fourth round ,it doesn't really matter,

both of them were really good and both of them gave us a chance to win and by the way Malik Collins was ran out of here they looked at him a lot like hill and the way they talked about osa a little bit but nobody really loved the guy and now he's an all pro with the 49ers yeah he made his way back people around here want to jettison guys but Anthony brown also not a bad player... so you say it's bad and I say you're looking at it wrong you get 2 franchise players yes Ezekiel 8 was one of the best running backs in the league you say it's a mistake and somehow say Quan Barkley is not there are other players like Christian McCaffrey also they picked high so no it wasn't a bad draft and you say we could have had Henry and I said you're wrong you change the way you draft in the first round like not take Elliot and take ramsey it changes the way everybody else drafts and there was no guarantee Henry would have been on the board had we flipped that around that's not how it works I mean do you have a time machine and you gonna go over there with hindsight and go back and make the pieces fit where you want?

Literally not how it works if the Dallas Cowboys would have changed their mindset on how they dropped it at the top it would have changed everybody else's draft there would have been changes to a p....uld've had no that's not how it works...