Cutting Dez is a Huge Mistake

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And what are you replacing him with? What are you spending that money on? As far as "the poor attitude" you aren't in the locker-room, or in the huddle so you're just speculating with what you see on TV or based upon what people say.
It would be a good move even if he weren't replaced, although I think hurns is the guy they have in mind. The money has yet to be spent. As for "poor attitude", presumed innocence doesn't mean we have to be stupid. I always believed o.j. was guilty. But I wasn't there.
 

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And what are you replacing him with? What are you spending that money on? As far as "the poor attitude" you aren't in the locker-room, or in the huddle so you're just speculating with what you see on TV or based upon what people say.
He is wishcasting to fit his agenda
 

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And what are you replacing him with? What are you spending that money on? As far as "the poor attitude" you aren't in the locker-room, or in the huddle so you're just speculating with what you see on TV or based upon what people say.

Regardless how they spend the money, they had more problems with Dez than they thought he was worth. They could've offered to cut his salary but even if Dez had agreed, he still would've been unhappy and it would've further affected his game which was already declining.
Another thing I think was a factor, they had said they were going to make the offense more Dak friendly. Dez never matched up with Dak like he did with the gun slinger, but he was still always in Dak's face wanting the ball. Dak will be better off without him. Especially if they get a WR that can run routes.

And Dez did have an attitude problem. Michael Irvin attested to it. He was fighting with Garrett and Dez's so-called Garrett guys. Dez even admitted that much. He pretty much brought this on himself. It was a combination of things and together they added up to more than the Cowboys wanted to deal with, and I can't say I blame them.
 
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Regardless how they spend the money, they had more problems with Dez than they thought he was worth. They could've offered to cut his salary but even if Dez had agreed, he still would've been unhappy and it would've further affected his game which was already declining.
Another thing I think was a factor, they had said they were going to make the offense more Dak friendly. Dez never matched up with Dak like he did with the gun slinger, but he was still always in Dak's face wanting the ball. Dak will be better off without him. Especially if they get a WR that can run routes.

And Dez did have an attitude problem. Michael Irvin attested to it. He was fighting with Garrett and Dez's so-called Garrett guys. Dez even admitted that much. He pretty much brought this on himself. It was a combination of things and together they added up to more than the Cowboys wanted to deal with, and I can't say I blame them.

This is it right here. He was a hinderence.

It's just like playing a pickup game of street basketball. There's always that brash talented player. Whose jawing so much and battling and going hard, spaced out in isolation, going at the other man one on one. Sometimes they get so caught up they forget to pass. If your on his team you stop hustling because he won' pass it.

You find yourself just watching .

They are so focused and driven (with a profound amount of anger that clouds thier judgement, they feed off the anger, its toxic) so now not only watching. You have to listen to his obnoxious mouth

We've all been there

The whole game is about him. That's what and who Dez is. Emotional to a fault. The player is so good and you can't deny his talent, but you would rather not be on his team in fact you wish he was on another team. If the king of productive emotional drive (Irvin) attests to it , then your emotions are of the toxic variety

That's what this whole Dez situation is about. They wanted him on another team.

I accept that I understand that. I am 100% certain it is time to move on. The Future is wide open.

But just don't tell me that man can't still ball out. He is still talented and has alot of football left. Who knows maybe this will humble him in some way. The Cowboys organization and Dez are going in seperate directions. But I am sure there will be success for all.

Is it going to sting watching Dez's highlights this year? Of course it will. But there won' be any regrets because Dak will come into his own. And I believe his progression will be multiplied by not having Dez around. It's called piece of mind. ( have you ever read Shakesphere while listening to the Ting Yang twins? It' kinda hard to focus and concentrate)
 

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Regardless how they spend the money, they had more problems with Dez than they thought he was worth. They could've offered to cut his salary but even if Dez had agreed, he still would've been unhappy and it would've further affected his game which was already declining.
Another thing I think was a factor, they had said they were going to make the offense more Dak friendly. Dez never matched up with Dak like he did with the gun slinger, but he was still always in Dak's face wanting the ball. Dak will be better off without him. Especially if they get a WR that can run routes.

And Dez did have an attitude problem. Michael Irvin attested to it. He was fighting with Garrett and Dez's so-called Garrett guys. Dez even admitted that much. He pretty much brought this on himself. It was a combination of things and together they added up to more than the Cowboys wanted to deal with, and I can't say I blame them.
By 2013, Romo was no longer the "Gunslinger". He was the "Marksman". He was among the most accurate downfield throwers in the NFL. He had little problem finding Dez or any other receiver for that matter. Dak is not an accurate enough passer at this point to get the ball to where Dez needs it. Yes, Dez had two or three outrageous drops (and had 6 drops total, which is pretty bad), but a great deal of this is on Dak. You can make excuses for his youth, but that does not change the conclusion. When Dez gets picked up by somebody (and yes, he will. Teams don't have the cap money for the most part to pay what Dez is going to ask for unless they can dump salary, but somebody is going to pay him enough that he'll land somewhere), he will do better if he has a halfway acurate passer to work with.
 

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It would be a good move even if he weren't replaced, although I think hurns is the guy they have in mind. The money has yet to be spent. As for "poor attitude", presumed innocence doesn't mean we have to be stupid. I always believed o.j. was guilty. But I wasn't there.
Yeah, sometimes you just have to examine the evidence at hand and conclude. Plus, there's no way we release Dez if not for some sort of attitude issues. You'd have to ignore a ton of signs and evidence to think Dez has no attitude issues.
 

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Yeah, sometimes you just have to examine the evidence at hand and conclude. Plus, there's no way we release Dez if not for some sort of attitude issues. You'd have to ignore a ton of signs and evidence to think Dez has no attitude issues.
I hate the term "attitude issues". What the heck does that mean? The guy is a passionate player that lets his emotions run away with themselves sometimes. He gets easily frustrated when the team is losing and he's not being utilized well. Romo for the most part, was able to keep that in check and harness it. To me, "attitude issues" are more about player apathy and being more concerned with stats than winning. Nobody should ever accuse Dez of that.
 

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I hate the term "attitude issues". What the heck does that mean? The guy is a passionate player that lets his emotions run away with themselves sometimes. He gets easily frustrated when the team is losing and he's not being utilized well. Romo for the most part, was able to keep that in check and harness it. To me, "attitude issues" are more about player apathy and being more concerned with stats than winning. Nobody should ever accuse Dez of that.
So if he were pitching a fit on the sidelines when the team is winning, would that be considered an attitude problem?
 

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I hate the term "attitude issues". What the heck does that mean? The guy is a passionate player that lets his emotions run away with themselves sometimes. He gets easily frustrated when the team is losing and he's not being utilized well. Romo for the most part, was able to keep that in check and harness it. To me, "attitude issues" are more about player apathy and being more concerned with stats than winning. Nobody should ever accuse Dez of that.
Please stop calling his mental meltdowns and childish acts "passion."
That's ridiculous.
Secondly it's beyond frustration. It's a condition.
 

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I hate the term "attitude issues". What the heck does that mean? The guy is a passionate player that lets his emotions run away with themselves sometimes. He gets easily frustrated when the team is losing and he's not being utilized well. Romo for the most part, was able to keep that in check and harness it. To me, "attitude issues" are more about player apathy and being more concerned with stats than winning. Nobody should ever accuse Dez of that.

You can hate the term all you like, but the argument you've put forth doesn't add up:

Dez isn't a problem in the locker room or on the practice field
Dez isn't a problem in games
Dez just wants to win
Dez is still a "#1 receiver"
Dez's contract isn't so bad compared to what guys signed for last month

If all of those things were true Dez would still be a Cowboy.
 

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Please stop calling his mental meltdowns and childish acts "passion."
That's ridiculous.
Secondly it's beyond frustration. It's a condition.
Passion is really uncontrolled emotion in Dez’s case usually manifested by fighting, arguing, whining, crying, and being disrespectful. It is used as an excise by the team to be vague about his behavior and not throw him under the bus to the media. Greg Hardy also had “passion” and was a leader according to the team .
 

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Yeah, so many teams have lined up to battle over signing Dez.

That so many teams want to acquire such a “passionate”, hard-working, mega-talented, sure-fire Hall of Famer sure has stuck it to the Cowboys and proven that his diehards were justified in all their gnashing of teeth and fretting that he was let go.

It was definitely a “huge mistake.”

Oh wait…
 

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Passion is really uncontrolled emotion in Dez’s case usually manifested by fighting, arguing, whining, crying, and being disrespectful. It is used as an excise by the team to be vague about his behavior and not throw him under the bus to the media. Greg Hardy also had “passion” and was a leader according to the team .
So now we are comparing Dez to Hardy. Nice. :mad:
 

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Please stop calling his mental meltdowns and childish acts "passion."
That's ridiculous.
Secondly it's beyond frustration. It's a condition.
Whatever. We'll see how well the offense plays without him. If the Cowboys had gotten Watkins, I'd be okay, but Hurns is a serious downgrade from Dez. We'll see just how much when you ask this UFA to go against a #1 CBs every Sunday. Again, they better use Dez's money on somebody that will help us win or we'll be picking a heck of a lot earlier than 19 next season.
 
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