Cutting Dez is a Huge Mistake

[yentl911]

Stop crying about it. He's gone. His way of playing the game has taken a toll on his body and I am quite surprised and happy the FO had the minerals to make the move. Usually we hold on to these guys way past their usefulness and we suffer for it.

We have a good team - not great team - but we are young and on the rise.

Good luck Dez I wish you the best unless you play for another NFC East team.

 

[CowboyChris]

I thought for sure he would get snapped up and get more than $12.5 million after seeing what Watkins got.

it was pretty telling to me today, that the Ravens signed Willie Snead to offer sheet, and didn't even visit with Dez. that's a bad sign if you are Dez.

 

[Alexander]

Stop crying about it. He's gone.

Seriously.

 

[Bleedblue1111]

We will fiind out as the new season starts and it will be called for who the rope dangles.

It might work out for the best, pressure correctly applied in the right place, is a force itself.

 

[dallasdave]

It might work out for the best, pressure correctly applied in the right place, is a force itself.

Practice makes perfect.

 

[Alexander]

And by the way, the stupid rope workout thing posted with him and Beckham was laughable.

 

[cern]

As hard as it must have been for Jerry to release dez, you have to give him credit for being the man to do it. Sometime in business, as in life, the toughest decisions are the most difficult.

 

[cern]

And by the way, the stupid rope workout thing posted with him and Beckham was laughable.

Nice photo op.

 

[xwalker]

Do TDs

Dak not to Dez
1 passing TD every 16.3 passes (6.1%)

Dak to Dez
1 passing TD every 22 passes (4.5%)

Raw Numbers:
Dak Total TDs 28 (22 passing)
Dak total passes 490
Dak 358 passes not to Dez
358/22=16.3
Dez TDs 6
Dez targets 132
132/6=22

 

[Cap12]

Dak not to Dez
1 passing TD every 16.3 passes (6.1%)

Dak to Dez
1 passing TD every 22 passes (4.5%)

Raw Numbers:
Dak Total TDs 28 (22 passing)
Dak total passes 490
Dak 358 passes not to Dez
358/22=16.3
Dez TDs 6
Dez targets 132
132/6=22

Again, don't put much stock in "targets". It is a poor measure since it only shows how often a QB throws the ball in a particular general vicinity. It doesn't tale into account if the pass was thrown away or poorly thrown, tipped etc. Also when a pass is thrown in an area with multiple receivers, who gets the target? Was it an overthrow or an underthrow or simply off target. Very subjective....

Look, if Dez's money can get us a chip (Earl Thomas or someone of his ilk that can help this team right now), then the strategy to let Dez go might work out. Otherwise, I don't see the advantage unless it was to appease Dak and if that's the case, no excuses. Ball out this year or we'll be looking for a new QB within the near future (and we will have the high enough draft pick to show for the poor play).

 

[Nightman]

Dak not to Dez
1 passing TD every 16.3 passes (6.1%)

Dak to Dez
1 passing TD every 22 passes (4.5%)

Raw Numbers:
Dak Total TDs 28 (22 passing)
Dak total passes 490
Dak 358 passes not to Dez
358/22=16.3
Dez TDs 6
Dez targets 132
132/6=22

You made a big mistake
Dak Total.....490/22= 22.27
Dak to Dez ......132/6= 22
Dak to Field.......358/16= 22.375

So Dak to Dez is still better than to everyone else

 

[xwalker]

Again, don't put much stock in "targets". It is a poor measure since it only shows how often a QB throws the ball in a particular general vicinity. It doesn't tale into account if the pass was thrown away or poorly thrown, tipped etc. Also when a pass is thrown in an area with multiple receivers, who gets the target? Was it an overthrow or an underthrow or simply off target. Very subjective....

Look, if Dez's money can get us a chip (Earl Thomas or someone of his ilk that can help this team right now), the, the strategy to let Dez go might work out. Otherwise, I don't see the advantage unless it was to appease Dak and if that's the case, no excuses. Ball out this year or we'll be looking for a new QB within the near future (and we will have the high enough draft pick to show for the poor play).

I'm not sure if you understood the context of my post.

I was answering a question about comparing Dak to Dez TDs vs Dak to everybody else TDs.

Saying Dez had x TDs vs y TDs for everyone else is meaningless to me without some attempt to show relative opportunity. Targets are the only method I have to give some perspective.

Dez had 6 TDs and Beasley had 4; however, we know Beasley had way less opportunities.

Dez
TD/Catch 8.7%
TD/Target 4.5%

Beasley
TD/Catch 11%
TD/Target 6.3%

Your post is true if comparing WRs directly. If Julio Jones has a 60% catch rate and TWill has 65% catch rate it's a meaningless comparision.

 

[cern]

You made a big mistake
Dak Total.....490/22= 22.27
Dak to Dez ......132/6= 22
Dak to Field.......358/16= 22.375

So Dak to Dez is still better than to everyone else

Not 16.5 million against the cap value. Monopoly money? Maybe. Real money? No way.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Why does no one credit Dez for some of the production of the guys around him? Is Dak as successful to these secondary targets if instead of the number 2 corner Williams is going against the number 1 guy? Beasely is more frequently doubled? There is more freedom from the defnesive coordinator to bring help? And on and on?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Not 16.5 million against the cap value. Monopoly money? Maybe. Real money? No way.

We only saved Dez's base salary against the cap.

 

[Cap12]

We only saved Dez's base salary against the cap.

Yep. Only about 12 Million or so is base salary. The rest he can pool with Tony's dead money and they can throw a party and not invite Garrett, lol.

 

[kskboys]

Judging by the response of NFL teams, this thread was a bigger mistake than cutting Dez was!!!

 

[G2]

Dez’s ability to catch fades and jump balls made him a huge redzone threat. What he brought in that area can’t be replaced. Dak wasn’t consistently able to put the ball where Dez could make a play. Romo discussed during a telecast where Dez likes the ball. The Cowboys are a worse team without Dez. Can’t see how anyone could think not having him on the team makes the Cowboys better. Of Dak’s 44 TD passes the past two seasons Dez caught 14 of them.

The team being worse remains to be seen. 14 out of 44 TDs doesn't scream the team will be worse.

 

[xwalker]

You made a big mistake
Dak Total.....490/22= 22.27
Dak to Dez ......132/6= 22
Dak to Field.......358/16= 22.375

So Dak to Dez is still better than to everyone else

Yes, I noticed when I was replying to another poster.
Total 4.48%
Dez 4.54%
Not Dez 4.47%
Not Dez or TWill 5.7%

It's basically break-even for Dez vs everyone.

Dez was the #1 WR. He should be way above everyone else.

TWill skews the numbers because he is 3rd in targets but is rarely targeted in the Redzone and is often off the field in the Redzone.

 

[cowboy_ron]

Judging by the response of NFL teams, this thread was a bigger mistake than cutting Dez was!!!

Well said.