D-law on the refs

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Funny how hardly anyone crediting the refs for getting the cowboys offense to the 6 yard line with 26ish seconds to go. Had the offense not completely screwed up the eagles would be complaining how the refs gave away the game.
Exciting endings. That's what they want. That's what they got. They gave the Eagles the previous TD. Kept the Cowboys from having a lead and going into ball control/prevent type of play. That is what they do not want.
 

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Losers blame the refs. It’s a way to avoid actual accountability. “We didn’t lose, the refs lost it for us”

Did the ref push Dak out of bounds?
Did the ref force Ferguson to run a bad route?
Did the ref force the Boys to go for a TD and not take a FG?
Did the ref decide not to help Steele and instead focus on helping the guards and center?

Every game has bad calls. Good teams take advantage of ones that go their way and fight through ones that don’t.
The problem with this is that you are acting like teams play perfect games. You can go down the list and do this for Philly too. The difference is that two calls/non-calls took 10 points (at least) off the board for the Cowboys. That's the game right there.

And the idea that you can "overcome" bad officiating is ridiculous in the NFL. You can't. It's not basketball or baseball.
 

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Funny how hardly anyone crediting the refs for getting the cowboys offense to the 6 yard line with 26ish seconds to go. Had the offense not completely screwed up the eagles would be complaining how the refs gave away the game.
Cowboys fans are doing it all over the place.

The problem is that it's a dumb thing to say. The Roughing call was suspect but the DPI was clear as day. Dallas was moving the ball anyways.
 

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Losers blame the refs. It’s a way to avoid actual accountability. “We didn’t lose, the refs lost it for us”

Did the ref push Dak out of bounds?
Did the ref force Ferguson to run a bad route?
Did the ref force the Boys to go for a TD and not take a FG?
Did the ref decide not to help Steele and instead focus on helping the guards and center?

Every game has bad calls. Good teams take advantage of ones that go their way and fight through ones that don’t.
Regardless of our own mistakes....i expect a fair and impartial refereeing of the game.....for both teams.
Assessing nfl performance of the game should be part of the process.....from clock to security to meaurements....etc.


Not looking for blame and excuses....just facts.

You in? Or continue with your virtue signalling.
 

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Ronnie, my man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You seeing it also now?
Oh I have always seen it. Don't you remember all our discussions on the old site about the fact that it doesn't take a "conspiracy" in order for the refs to screw the Cowboys. Refs are human.. Refs grew up football fans.. which means refs grew up with a favorite team and a most hated team. Logic dictates that a large percentage of refs grew up hating the Cowboys. So even if it's not intentional, their judgement can be influenced by all the times the Cowboys crushed their favorite team when they were 12 years old. Throw in that the commissioner of the damn league grew up with Ratscum season tickets... AND got pantsed by Jerry's lawyers over the whole naming rights, sponsorship deal lawsuit back in '95 when Goodell was the NFL's top lawyer. To pretend there is no bias against the Cowboys is sheer lunacy. Just like how the Raiders, whose owner punked the NFL in court twice were never going to be allowed to win anything either. "Tuck rule" anyone?
 

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Kinda funny to hear D-Law say this because he got a gift from the refs not getting called for hitting Hurts low and actually injuring him, lol.
Looked like he was pulled down but I only saw the replay once I think
 

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Oh I have always seen it. Don't you remember all our discussions on the old site about the fact that it doesn't take a "conspiracy" in order for the refs to screw the Cowboys. Refs are human.. Refs grew up football fans.. which means refs grew up with a favorite team and a most hated team. Logic dictates that a large percentage of refs grew up hating the Cowboys. So even if it's not intentional, their judgement can be influenced by all the times the Cowboys crushed their favorite team when they were 12 years old. Throw in that the commissioner of the damn league grew up with Ratscum season tickets... AND got pantsed by Jerry's lawyers over the whole naming rights, sponsorship deal lawsuit back in '95 when Goodell was the NFL's top lawyer. To pretend there is no bias against the Cowboys is sheer lunacy. Just like how the Raiders, whose owner punked the NFL in court twice were never going to be allowed to win anything either. "Tuck rule" anyone?
To add, the NFL makes scads of money off close games. They make much less money off blowouts.

Never in my life have I seen so many teams come back from 3-4 scores down. Scripted? Not really, but certain calls are made to get the game close so people don't tune out. It's all about money. And since most people don't actually watch the games, they simply don't see it. That holding call to negate a huge play by the team that is already 2 scores up is not in the box score and isn't shown on the highlight reel. So, most people simply never see it.

And it's getting more and more blatant.
 

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The problem with this is that you are acting like teams play perfect games. You can go down the list and do this for Philly too. The difference is that two calls/non-calls took 10 points (at least) off the board for the Cowboys. That's the game right there.

And the idea that you can "overcome" bad officiating is ridiculous in the NFL. You can't. It's not basketball or baseball.
The Cowboys got to the point of 1st and Goal from the 6 and time to run 4 plays only to shoot themselves in the foot. That wasn't almost overcoming? And it's only an 'almost' because of their own buffoonery. Good teams capitalize on that opportunity, do they not?
 

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Dallas and Philly had 10 penalties. Philly had more penalty yardage against them.

There is no fix. Fans and players are biased
Not that I disagree with you, but to be fair, two of the Eagles penalties totaled about 7 yards that wouldn't have had any effect on the play.
 

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The Cowboys got to the point of 1st and Goal from the 6 and time to run 4 plays only to shoot themselves in the foot. That wasn't almost overcoming? And it's only an 'almost' because of their own buffoonery. Good teams capitalize on that opportunity, do they not?
That's not the point, and the idea that good teams go 80-something yards for winning touchdowns with any sense of regularity is nonsense.

You're distilling an entire game's worth of calls/plays into one moment. If Dallas has those 10-14 points, you're not in that situation.
 

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Oh I have always seen it. Don't you remember all our discussions on the old site about the fact that it doesn't take a "conspiracy" in order for the refs to screw the Cowboys. Refs are human.. Refs grew up football fans.. which means refs grew up with a favorite team and a most hated team. Logic dictates that a large percentage of refs grew up hating the Cowboys. So even if it's not intentional, their judgement can be influenced by all the times the Cowboys crushed their favorite team when they were 12 years old. Throw in that the commissioner of the damn league grew up with Ratscum season tickets... AND got pantsed by Jerry's lawyers over the whole naming rights, sponsorship deal lawsuit back in '95 when Goodell was the NFL's top lawyer. To pretend there is no bias against the Cowboys is sheer lunacy. Just like how the Raiders, whose owner punked the NFL in court twice were never going to be allowed to win anything either. "Tuck rule" anyone?
I wore my cowboys tee to the grocery store. One of the employees jokingly said boo cowboys. I said you must be an eagles fan. He said....no im bucs...i just dont want to ever see cowboys win again.
Another guy had a patriots shirt....again....boo cowboys!


They were in freindly spirits....but cowboys "hate" is a real thing.

Refs are human too. Doesnt have to be on purpose.
 

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Dallas and Philly had 10 penalties. Philly had more penalty yardage against them.

There is no fix. Fans and players are biased
Its stupid to think all penalties or non calls are exactly equal.

And no....not saying there us an nfl directive to make the cowboys lose.

And i aint saying there isnt.:laugh:
 

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Losers blame the refs. It’s a way to avoid actual accountability. “We didn’t lose, the refs lost it for us”

Did the ref push Dak out of bounds?
Did the ref force Ferguson to run a bad route?
Did the ref force the Boys to go for a TD and not take a FG?
Did the ref decide not to help Steele and instead focus on helping the guards and center?

Every game has bad calls. Good teams take advantage of ones that go their way and fight through ones that don’t.
Why did you feel that this perspective merits the contribution of an Eagles fan? Are you such a raging narcissist that you feel your grade school response is needed here? Or is it that you’re personally offended that anyone could deign to question the greatness of the Eagles that you felt the need to lecture your rivals fans on how they should feel? What a disturbing picture your entire ilk paints of your fanbase. The most insecure people on Earth.
 

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That's facts. I prob mentioned refs once or twice ever on here. Sunday was nonsense
I generally understand refs missing calls. It’s a very hard job with 22 super athletes and so much happening on every play. But the shoon call was right in front of them, not in a crowd of bodies and so clear cut there is no excuse to miss that call
 

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I generally understand refs missing calls. It’s a very hard job with 22 super athletes and so much happening on every play. But the shoon call was right in front of them, not in a crowd of bodies and so clear cut there is no excuse to miss that call
to not call that but to call it on gilmore was the sum of the officiating of that game
 

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Losers blame the refs. It’s a way to avoid actual accountability. “We didn’t lose, the refs lost it for us”

Did the ref push Dak out of bounds?
Did the ref force Ferguson to run a bad route?
Did the ref force the Boys to go for a TD and not take a FG?
Did the ref decide not to help Steele and instead focus on helping the guards and center?

Every game has bad calls. Good teams take advantage of ones that go their way and fight through ones that don’t.
All true! Mistakes were made. Every game has bad calls.

That said, the calls were abnormally slanted a certain way.
1)At least 6 holds on our pass rushers weren’t called.
2)The Ticky tacky interference call on Gilmore.
3)The interference not called on the Schoonmaker catch.
 

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The fans here truly believe 35 to 40 penalties should have been called on Philly. 300 or 400 yards worth of Holding Calls missed.

With none against us.

You're wasting your breath trying to make them see reason. Because once they see reason....then the only thing they have left is the hard cold realization that we simply lost because we weren't good enough.

Denial is easier.
They could call 40 penalties a game. There is a penalty on almost every snap. They don’t call them all and shouldn’t. I don’t believe it’s a conspiracy against us but I do think the shoon catch was a very bad missed call. It wasn’t a play around a bunch of guys that’s hard to see. Refs are human and are gonna make mistakes but that was such an easy call and extremely impactful in the game. That’s so flagrant it has to be called and it was literally right in front of the official
 

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He's not lying. The Cowboys had 2 penalties in the 1st half and 8 in teh 2nd. I believe 5 came in the 3rd quarter. I really think the league needs to stop giving offenses the green light to hold Parsons.
 
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