Video: Dak’s contract will cripple the Cowboys

[csirl]

Nah Jerry is older now and Stephen is a force to consider in the FO.
They know that Dak simply can't deliver and do not underestimate the Dalton signing.
Funny how Big Mike called him upon his release from the Bengals and how it took him 2 weeks to call Dak.
Makes one wonder what Big Mike and Jerry talked about in their initial interview of 12 hours?????

The team will likely sign another QB before training camp. In most years it would be an unknown camp arm. If it's a veteran backup type, we'll know Dak is history.

 

[csirl]

Lol 42 a year. 35 tops

This is pure desparation by Dak's team. They're looking for a out that save's face. Sending crazy proposals to the Cowboys front office hoping someone will say "no' so they can blame the Cowboys.

 

[phildadon86]

Matt Stafford is better than Dak.

Bring him to Dallas please.

Lol. The guys has a losing record against winning teams and can’t lead a horse to water. Sure let’s trade for him and his ridiculous contract lol. You’re something else

 

[phildadon86]

Imagine thinking we were losing games because of Special Teams.


We gonna blame the Full Back not being good enough for Dak as well?

Special teams costed us the New England game. Even Jerry said it. You’re actually funny. Dak had so many long drives this season it’s insane. But yeah. Its normal in your mind to start at the 5 yard line constantly right?

 

[Hadenough]

The thing is.. Most guys in this league will rip defenses apart with a clean pocket and weapons on the outside. Throw in a run game that can dictate defenses coverages and you have a recipe for success.

 

[doomsday9084]

Jerry loves Dak. Jerry wants Dak to be the QB. Having plucked Dak from the 4th round and going on to win a super bowl makes Jerry look like a genius. The Cowboys are in a good cap position. Jerry has no issues writing HUGE contracts for his players.

Everyone on this forum knows all this. Even the Dak haters. His agent knows it too, unfortunately.

The only logical reason why this deal wasn't done long ago is because Dak is looking for stupid money. The "years" thing was always a lame excuse. Jerry isn't going to blow this team up over a 4 year versus 5 year deal. He wants to win *now*. I would not be even slightly surprised if Dak truly was looking for $40m per year or more.

And no, that isn't a good idea. As others have noted, if you give a QB:
- A good line
- A good coach
- A good running game
- Good WR's
There are plenty of QB's who are going to look pretty good. You don't need to pay $40m for production in that situation.

The market for QB's is an economic bubble. Right now, teams are paying the position too much. When you look around the league, virtually everyone has a franchise QB or a recently drafted guy they hope will become one. Its to the point where guys like Andy Dalton are floating around and can be picked up for cheap. 10-20 years ago, teams figured out that there were more quality RB's than spots for them. The price and draft position tanked. QB is just about there.

 

[Rockport]

Lets see if I have no idea. Again, this is not high education stuff. A common 10 year old can do this.

2015 - 143M
2016 - 155M
2017 - 167M
2018 - 177M
2019 - 188M
2020 - 198M

Anyone want to take a wild guess at 2021? I can tell you what it probably won't be. It won't be 220M followed by 246M in 2022.

I’ve heard reports where the cap is going to skyrocket because of the new CBA, gambling and TV contracts. So you don’t know. Any 10 year old could figure that out.

 

[Flamma]

I’ve heard reports where the cap is going to skyrocket because of the new CBA, gambling and TV contracts. So you don’t know. Any 10 year old could figure that out

Nah, it will be along the lines of 10 million. And that's only if all goes well. They're talking about a cut in the salary cap if they play without fans.

 

[KJJ]

I don't think we have an average defense, just a vanilla scheme. Which is why we don't get turnovers. And if we did have an average defense there no way Dak is making up for it. There is no way on this God's green earth is the difference between getting to a SB and not getting to a SB because Dallas starts Dak over Dalton. Both of these QBs are going to need a lot of help. A good gameplan and good coaching got Jared Goff to a SB.

The only problem I see is finding a long term solution if Dallas dumps Dak. It can be done. It's just risky. The only way I would consider keeping Dak is if he took like an 8 year deal at 30 Mil per. But of course he would refuse it. Let that sink in. Our starting quarterback would refuse 240 million dollars. And forget guaranteed money with QBs. If they play well they are kept.

The defense is average and has been average for many years. Even Jerry and Stephen have admitted the defense has been an issue. We don’t get turnovers, we don’t get a lot of sacks and we’re a poor tackling team. We’ve struggled for years making critical stops. When we make the playoffs it’s our defense that gets us knocked off. We have a QB we can win Super Bowl’s with. Poor coaching has been another big problem and hopefully that will change with McCarthy. Until we get a defense that starts to play consistently from week to week and doesn’t start to crumble in December and January we’re not going to get far regardless who our QB is. When you have defensive issues you become more dependent on your QB/offense to bail you out.

 

[Flamma]

The defense is average and has been average for many years. Even Jerry and Stephen have admitted the defense has been an issue. We don’t get turnovers, we don’t get a lot of sacks and we’re a poor tackling team. We’ve struggled for years making critical stops. When we make the playoffs it’s our defense that gets us knocked off. We have a QB we can win Super Bowl’s with. Poor coaching has been another big problem and hopefully that will change with McCarthy. Until we get a defense that starts to play consistently from week to week and doesn’t start to crumble in December and January we’re not going to get far regardless who our QB is. When you have defensive issues you become more dependent on your QB/offense to bail you out.

If our D plays average we're not winning anything anyway.

 

[KJJ]

If our D plays average we're not winning anything anyway.

That’s basically what I just said. The main reason we never got far with Romo was our defense. One of the most efficient playoff games he ever had was against Green Bay in 2014 and we lost because our defense couldn’t stop Aaron Rodgers. Dak had a solid playoff game against the Packers in 2016 and our D once again broke down with the game on the line.

 

[Flamma]

That’s basically what I just said. The main reason we never got far with Romo was our defense. One of the most efficient playoff games he ever had was against Green Bay in 2014 and we lost because our defense couldn’t stop Aaron Rodgers.

Murray let those bums off the hook with that fumble. Not sure if we would have won anyway because that D did suck. But regardless of what you think about our current D, it is not as bad as the Romo defenses or the Dak 2016 defense. Or what I would call, the Sean Lee defenses. No Sean Lee, no defense.

 

[KJJ]

Murray let those bums off the hook with that fumble. Not sure if we would have won anyway because that D did suck. But regardless of what you think about our current D, it is not as bad as the Romo defenses or the Dak 2016 defense. Or what I would call, the Sean Lee defenses. No Sean Lee, no defense.

The defense has been inconsistent for many years. You would have to go back to the 90s when the team was winning championships to find a Cowboys defense that was real solid, consistent and opportunistic. We’ve had spurts over the years where the defense has played very well over a series of games and then it began to crack late in the season. A classic example was during the 2018 season. We started playing some of the best defense I had seen in years starting with the Saints. It continued until we got to the Colts game then it began to fall apart. The Rams ended up destroying us on the ground in the playoffs. You mentioned Jared Goff in an earlier post. He didn’t play well against us but he didn’t have to because our defense sucked! Those average QBs that won Super Bowls would’ve had no chance if their defenses didn’t step up.

 

[Flamma]

The defense has been inconsistent for many years. You would have to go back to the 90s when the team was winning championships to find a Cowboys defense that was real solid, consistent and opportunistic. We’ve had spurts over the years where the defense has played very well over a series of games and then it began to crack late in the season. A classic example was during the 2018 season. We started playing some of the best defense I had seen in years starting with the Saints. It continued until we got to the Colts game then it began to fall apart. The Rams ended up destroying us on the ground in the playoffs. You mentioned Jared Goff in an earlier post. He didn’t play well against us but he didn’t have to because our defense sucked! Those average QBs that won Super Bowls would’ve had no chance if their defenses didn’t step up.

Yeah that Rams game was ridiculous. Can't stop the run against a quarterback that isn't that good of a passer. How do you screw that up? But in most of these cases with SB winners it's hard to find a situation where the D wasn't either really good to begin with, or started playing really well down the stretch. Even if we remove the quarterback from the equation, most of them have one thing in common, the D played well. Even the low seed teams that have won it, defense down the stretch.

You mentioned the Saints game. Dallas put a lot of pressure on Brees. If our DLine can cause havoc or put enough pressure on the QB so he throws it before he wants to, I think that can be enough to mask our weak secondary. Or I say questionable secondary.

 

[kskboys]

The defense has been inconsistent for many years. You would have to go back to the 90s when the team was winning championships to find a Cowboys defense that was real solid, consistent and opportunistic. We’ve had spurts over the years where the defense has played very well over a series of games and then it began to crack late in the season. A classic example was during the 2018 season. We started playing some of the best defense I had seen in years starting with the Saints. It continued until we got to the Colts game then it began to fall apart. The Rams ended up destroying us on the ground in the playoffs. You mentioned Jared Goff in an earlier post. He didn’t play well against us but he didn’t have to because our defense sucked! Those average QBs that won Super Bowls would’ve had no chance if their defenses didn’t step up.

Same thing in 09. The D played mostly well, then fell apart in the playoffs vs MINNY.

 

[CCBoy]

While there have been several reports surrounding the exact offers that have been made to Prescott, Cowboys insider Mike Fisher has reported that Dak has an offer of five-years, $175 million on the table, with more than $106 million guaranteed. If true, this would match Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson as for the highest yearly salary of $35 million.

While it seems like a no-brainer for Prescott, his camp is allegedly seeking a four-year deal, rather than the offered five-year extension. His team seems to be using an uncommon strategy for his contract negotiations.

Most players in the NFL, specifically quarterbacks, aim for as many years as possible when it comes to their second contract in the league. This allows the player to be compensated long term and gives them financial stability and certainty.

Prescott, however, seems to be prioritizing becoming a free agent sooner in order to sign another deal. The quarterback market should reset when Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes and Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson receive what will likely be record-breaking contract extensions at some point.

From the perspective of the Cowboys’ organization, it’s logical that they would want to lock up their franchise quarterback for the foreseeable future on a lengthy deal. Ownership has been adamant that Prescott is their guy and they want him to be the leader of a team that makes its first Super Bowl appearance since the 1995 season...

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[KJJ]

Yeah that Rams game was ridiculous. Can't stop the run against a quarterback that isn't that good of a passer. How do you screw that up? But in most of these cases with SB winners it's hard to find a situation where the D wasn't either really good to begin with, or started playing really well down the stretch. Even if we remove the quarterback from the equation, most of them have one thing in common, the D played well. Even the low seed teams that have won it, defense down the stretch.

You mentioned the Saints game. Dallas put a lot of pressure on Brees. If our DLine can cause havoc or put enough pressure on the QB so he throws it before he wants to, I think that can be enough to mask our weak secondary. Or I say questionable secondary.

With defenses being handcuffed by all the many rule changes you need a top notch QB to be successful. Philly’s defense got shredded in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago by Brady who put up over 500 yards and it took an outstanding performance by Nick Foles to pull that game out. KC would’ve never reached the Super Bowl last season if they didn’t have a great QB. The Chiefs got behind in all their postseason games. They got down by 24 points to the Texans. No way do they come back and win the game if they didn’t have a great QB like Mahomes. They were down by 10 points with only seven minutes to play in the Super Bowl and it took a great QB to pull the game out. It’s hard to mask the deficiencies of an average QB and allow them to just manage games these days. They have to be productive and they have to be able to make plays when you need them to. They have to be able to carry their teams at times. There’s a reason QBs are getting paid the way they do these days. You’re not going to build consistent winning teams with Jeff Hostetler’s and Mark Rypien’s. You can’t stick a Trent Dilfer behind center and bank on building an all-time great defense to bail them out.

 

[KJJ]

Same thing in 09. The D played mostly well, then fell apart in the playoffs vs MINNY.

That’s been the MO of our defense for years. We finished the 09 season with back to back shut outs only to watch the D fall apart against the Vikings. Favre tossed 4 TDs and Sidney Rice had almost 150 yards receiving.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

That’s basically what I just said. The main reason we never got far with Romo was our defense. One of the most efficient playoff games he ever had was against Green Bay in 2014 and we lost because our defense couldn’t stop Aaron Rodgers. Dak had a solid playoff game against the Packers in 2016 and our D once again broke down with the game on the line.

I forget which one it was, but in one of those Rodgers had a very badly strained calf and could hardly move. With even an average pass rush he'd have been sacked numerous times, but he was able to stand back in the pocket and have a cup of coffee while his receivers worked and worked to get open.

Pressure on the quarterback is the biggest hallmark of a great defense these days, with the rules slanted so far toward the offense and the passing game.

Cowboys didn't get a top pass rusher in the draft or in free agency (though not so sure anybody though Quinn would lead the defense in sacks, so maybe there is someone on the roster that can do at least as well as he did), maybe Poe and McCoy can increase middle pressure so that Lawrence and whoever can have an easier time getting to the quarterback.

Like most years, lots of uncertainty this season...

 

[LACowboysFan1]

The Chiefs got behind in all their postseason games. They got down by 24 points to the Texans. No way do they come back and win the game if they didn’t have a great QB like Mahomes.

But if they had a great defense and didn't get behind then they wouldn't have to come back, and by extension not need the great QB.

Jim McMahon was hardly a great quarterback, but his defense was out of this world. P. Manning was a great quarterback, but the Seahawks defense nearly shut out the Broncos offense.

There's more than one way to win Super Bowls.

Just sayin'..