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There are 7 threads about daks projected salary. How about merging them?
 

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Let me start by saying I am not Dak guy, please go look at all my past posts.. But you are delusional to think teams would not sign Dak.
If guys like Foles got 23 million, Goff & Wentz got 33 million. There would be teams lined up to sign Dak for 35 per year, I really believe that. I hate to admit it but Jerry should not have let Dak bet on himself.
The Cowboys have 80 million in cap space, there is no shortage in money to sign Dak, Cooper & Byron Jones.
From a fan's perspective we should not care what the team is paying Dak, as long as his cap number is friendly for the team. Give him a larger bonus up front, spread it out over 6 years like Dallas does for all their contracts and keep his cap number under 30 the first three years. I again want to state he is not a top 5 QB, but I don't know if that matters. He will be paid at that number and in 3 years hopefully the contract will be a bargain.
I don't wan to be like the Skins, where they paid Cousins an enormous sum of money on the franchise tag, then let him walk but they turn around and trade for Alex Smith and give him an enormous contract.

If the Cowboys really don't want to sign Dak, then just sign JAG and really try to revamp. I really don't think Rivers or Brady will take us to a SB.

You seem reasonable. Why pay to bring back the same cast of characters that couldn't put up points against anyone good? Doesn't MM deserve a fresh start?

Its unfortunate that we have to care about what Dak gets paid b/c the money he gets is money that can't used to upgrade an area of weakness......and there are many weaknesses to address on this team. It is very debatable that Dak is worth more than Wentz and Goff. What is not debatable is that 8 of the last 10 super bowl champs had Qbs on cheap contracts.
 

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Who’s he going to sign with?
Does anybody care?

anybody know of any teams looking for a guy with Daks skills to pay $40 million dollars per year to?

man, he made $2m last year on this team and I can’t think of a reason he deserves a pay raise.
Unless the cowboys give him a pay raise,!I don’t think he is a starting QB next year. Where else could he start and who is looking for a $40m version of dak prescott???????
He doesn't really want 40 mil. It's about length and guaranteed $...he turned down 33 mil a year cause of the length amd guarantees
 

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You seem reasonable. Why pay to bring back the same cast of characters that couldn't put up points against anyone good? Doesn't MM deserve a fresh start?

Its unfortunate that we have to care about what Dak gets paid b/c the money he gets is money that can't used to upgrade an area of weakness......and there are many weaknesses to address on this team. It is very debatable that Dak is worth more than Wentz and Goff. What is not debatable is that 8 of the last 10 super bowl champs had Qbs on cheap contracts.

This is my line of thinking. I like Dak and the other free agents but why give major pay raises to guys that just went 8-8 in a weak division and missed the playoffs. Now part of me wants to see these guys under a different staff but once all these are signed will there be any money left to upgrade around them? I’m no expert on the cap.
 

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In all honesty. It’s fair to question how much Dak should be paid.


But,

cant think of a reason why he is worth more than 2 mil per year?

don’t think he will be starting next year unless it’s with Dallas.


Let’s be real: Dak WILL be making way more than 2 million next season. Whether it’s with Dallas or another team.

Dak WILL be a starting QB next season. Whether it’s with Dallas or another team.

Those two points aren’t debatable.
 

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This is my line of thinking. I like Dak and the other free agents but why give major pay raises to guys that just went 8-8 in a weak division and missed the playoffs. Now part of me wants to see these guys under a different staff but once all these are signed will there be any money left to upgrade around them? I’m no expert on the cap.

I would sign up tomorrow if we could bring all these guys back at reasonable prices just to see what MM can do with them. We just don't have the luxury.
 

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let's be real. this is one of the least thought out threads ever. not a single premise makes a bit of sense.
 

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I would sign up tomorrow if we could bring all these guys back at reasonable prices just to see what MM can do with them. We just don't have the luxury.
neither does any team or coach. the salary cap eventually gets to them all. rams in trouble. eagles in trouble. wait till mahomey gets his. it's like the aggie who wanted his pizza cut into 6 slices instead of 8 because he didn't think he could eat 8.
 

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Who’s he going to sign with?
Does anybody care?

anybody know of any teams looking for a guy with Daks skills to pay $40 million dollars per year to?

man, he made $2m last year on this team and I can’t think of a reason he deserves a pay raise.
Unless the cowboys give him a pay raise,!I don’t think he is a starting QB next year. Where else could he start and who is looking for a $40m version of dak prescott???????

Does Dak deserve a pay raise over the $2 mil he got last year? Yes. Does he deserve $40 mil? Probably not, although, he'll possibly end up getting something between $35 and the $40 mil figure that he and his agent seem to covet.

Hopefully, he'll develop further and take another step up, similar to what he did last year, as compared to his efforts in 2018. Mike McCarthy is well respected for his QB coaching abilities, so we'll eventually see if that lifts Dak into a higher performance level.

I wouldn't be too surprised if the dollar amount is already set, with the contractual number of years the last thing left to be settled upon. We'll see.
 
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neither does any team or coach. the salary cap eventually gets to them all. rams in trouble. eagles in trouble. wait till mahomey gets his. it's like the aggie who wanted his pizza cut into 6 slices instead of 8 because he didn't think he could eat 8.

The teams you mentioned have recently been in a Super Bowl, two of them winning it. So are we to get in cap trouble paying guys that didn’t even make the playoffs?
 

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neither does any team or coach. the salary cap eventually gets to them all. rams in trouble. eagles in trouble. wait till mahomey gets his. it's like the aggie who wanted his pizza cut into 6 slices instead of 8 because he didn't think he could eat 8.

Thats why I used the word "IF". I know its not possible to resign Dak and Cooper without sacrificing the defense.
 

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I mean if we are picking teams that would bid on Dak the most likely would be the Colts, Raiders, Chargers, and possibly Bucs. There are other teams I would say that would have interest but that I do not think could squeeze him in under the Cap, such as the Pats if Brady does not come back because his 20m dead money hinders them a lot, or a team like the Dolphins would be interested if it were a year later because its still too soon for them to start winning. The Bengals are light years off of being successful so its not worth it for them so my gut would say the above 4 would be the primary suitors with the Colts and possibly Chargers becoming legit SB contenders if he signed.
 

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The teams you mentioned have recently been in a Super Bowl, two of them winning it. So are we to get in cap trouble paying guys that didn’t even make the playoffs?
a fair point to be sure. but neither sniffed the super bowl last year. long term thinking is the dinosaur of the modern nfl. Khalil mack didn't get the bears to the big dance. cousins didn't get the vikes to the dance. the list is long.
 

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If Dak doesn’t sign by early March, he’s getting tagged. He won’t be allowed to test FA unless it’s as a protected player.
 

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a fair point to be sure. but neither sniffed the super bowl last year. long term thinking is the dinosaur of the modern nfl. Khalil mack didn't get the bears to the big dance. cousins didn't get the vikes to the dance. the list is long.

My hope is in the changing of the coaching staff
 

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You seem reasonable. Why pay to bring back the same cast of characters that couldn't put up points against anyone good? Doesn't MM deserve a fresh start?

Its unfortunate that we have to care about what Dak gets paid b/c the money he gets is money that can't used to upgrade an area of weakness......and there are many weaknesses to address on this team. It is very debatable that Dak is worth more than Wentz and Goff. What is not debatable is that 8 of the last 10 super bowl champs had Qbs on cheap contracts.
You are right, like I said I am not what you would even remotely call a Dak supporter. Please believe me when I say that.
So the past 10 SB Champs
Mahomes- You can pay him 5 million or 40 million he will take you to a SB. Once in a generation player
Season (2018,2016,2014)-Brady. GOAT. I am sure he was not on a rookie deal
2015 Season Manning- Was not on a rookie deal, was earning a lot of money, relative to cap
2017 Season Foles- Was the backup QB, lighting in a bottle.
2013 Season -Wilson won on a rookie contract
2012 Season- Flacco won during his 5th year option.
2011 Season- Eli won, not on a rookie deal
2010 Season- Rodgers, was on a 65 million dollar contract, has signed two larger deals since that time
2009 Season- Brees was also on a large deal.

So basically since the new CBA, only three rookie contract guys Flacco, Wilson,, Mahomes

Having said all of this, yes a great QB on a rookie contract is the biggest advantage you can have in pro sports. Well the Cowboys are past that stage. We as fans can posture all day, we know Jerry probably has no plan other than sign Dak to a 38 million dollar deal. I really wish we can get some compensation for Dak, but I don't trust this FO to find another QB.
Remember we lucked into Romo, and Dak. There was no master plan to draft, or sign as a undrafted FA ( Romo).
 
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