Dak before/after the bye split

Zman5 said:
So it's Dak's fault Bease dropped a perfectly thrown pass for TD? So It's Daks fault Maher missed a 2 FG and a PAT?
And it's Daks fault they didin't try to score at the end of the Saints game because they had the game won?

Yeh OK.
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no. I never said that...but is it Gallup's fault for Dak over throwing him? come on dude....
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
no. I never said that...but is it Gallup's fault for Dak over throwing him? come on dude....
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And when did I even mention Gallup? Did I even bring up his name? I gave you specific examples. I even said they need to get better in the red zone. All you are doing is making stuff up .
 
Zman5 said:
And when did I even mention Gallup? Did I even bring up his name? I gave you specific examples. I even said they need to get better in the red zone. All you are doing is making stuff up .
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and I gave you an specific example. what's wrong?
 
You can't properly analyze any QB, and particularly one like Dak, with passer rating alone, which ignores rushing, sacks and fumbles.

Before the bye: 3.3 sacks per game, 0.86 fumbles per game
After the bye: 4.4 sacks per game, 1.00 fumbles per game

Rushing before the bye (per game): 5.7-33.7-5.9 ypc-2 TD
Rushing after the bye: 4.6-13-2.8 ypc-3 TD

While he's been better when he actually throws the ball, that's blunted some by the increase in sacks and fumbles and the decrease in effectiveness when he runs. The sacks and fumbles are things he really really needs to clean up.
 
People overlook that Dak going 24 for 28 is how we milked the clock against the Saints. Zeke had over 100 yards overall, but it wasn't a dominant peformance by him. If Dak can continue the completion percentage along with Zeke being his best self, we will have something going on offense.
 
buybuydandavis said:
Dak is a brand new QB since the bye. I didn't notice how much better he's played. I don't think anyone has.

Cmp Att Yds TD Int Cmp% Y/A Passer Rating
Before 128 206 1417 8 4 62 6.9 87
After 115 158 1258 6 1 73 8.0 106

Very annoying that what you see when you edit isn't what shows up in the forum. The columns are all lined up when I edit.
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Im sure his agent had a BIG talk with him about his contract year...guess he got through...
 
Boyzmamacita said:
People overlook that Dak going 24 for 28 is how we milked the clock against the Saints. Zeke had over 100 yards overall, but it wasn't a dominant peformance by him. If Dak can continue the completion percentage along with Zeke being his best self, we will have something going on offense.
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so zeke getting 100 yards...not dominant....going 24 for 28 is dominant....yards and first downs be damned.... and scoring 13 points...yeah, awesome.....

and what about the other games when Dak was average and zeke had over a 100 yards? and when zeke doesn't we are 1-4.... come on dude...try again
 
Zman5 said:
And you blamed Dak for Maher's miss kicks and Beas' drops. That's what's wrong.
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the following is your quote....top of page 4

Zman5: "....That has some to do with the Kicker making all the FG before Cooper and missing a FG 4 games in a row after getting Cooper. Had he made those, the average would be up by 3. Also, sure handed dropped an easy TD and we could have scored in the last possession against the Saints if we needed to....."


the FACTS not made up excuses like above is that Maher missed 2 field goals before. and 2 field goals after getting cooper...and no it wasn't 4 games in a row....

so you claimed something that was TOTALLY FALSE. trying to make a claim that our average score would have been higher by 3 points....

so stop the BS..... please....you are sinking yourself...

so now try and figure out why Dak not playing well and our scoring not higher is defenses fault. so far Dak lovers have blamed everyone but Dak
 
buybuydandavis said:
Dak is a brand new QB since the bye. I didn't notice how much better he's played. I don't think anyone has.

Cmp Att Yds TD Int Cmp% Y/A Passer Rating
Before 128 206 1417 8 4 62 6.9 87
After 115 158 1258 6 1 73 8.0 106

Very annoying that what you see when you edit isn't what shows up in the forum. The columns are all lined up when I edit.
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Did you see Amari Cooper run routes and not drop passes. That definitely helps your QB rating after a bye when you add a no.1 WR.
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
the following is your quote....top of page 4

Zman5: "....That has some to do with the Kicker making all the FG before Cooper and missing a FG 4 games in a row after getting Cooper. Had he made those, the average would be up by 3. Also, sure handed dropped an easy TD and we could have scored in the last possession against the Saints if we needed to....."


the FACTS not made up excuses like above is that Maher missed 2 field goals before. and 2 field goals after getting cooper...and no it wasn't 4 games in a row....

so you claimed something that was TOTALLY FALSE. trying to make a claim that our average score would have been higher by 3 points....

so stop the BS..... please....you are sinking yourself...

so now try and figure out why Dak not playing well and our scoring not higher is defenses fault. so far Dak lovers have blamed everyone but Dak
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Why don't read my last post where I corrected the missed kicks. I posted 2 FG and 1 PAT. Once again, trying to twist the facts to bash Dak.
 
Zman5 said:
Why don't read my last post where I corrected the missed kicks. I posted 2 FG and 1 PAT. Once again, trying to twist the facts to bash Dak.
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so the whole premise was that, scoring improved from 20 to 21.4....not a big significance...then you made a false statement to say actually it should be 3 more than that...then you corrected your mistake...so I guess you are agreeing that 1.4 is not a significant scoring improvement....when you add a cooper to the team.......

and I didn't twist fact...I caught you misstating something and corrected you....so going back to original statement....

1.4 points per game improvement is not enough to excuse Dak given he now has cooper and seemingly utilizing him a lot as the leading WR now....can't see Dak being elite even if he had all the top players around him.
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
so the whole premise was that, scoring improved from 20 to 21.4....not a big significance...then you made a false statement to say actually it should be 3 more than that...then you corrected your mistake...so I guess you are agreeing that 1.4 is not a significant scoring improvement....when you add a cooper to the team.......

and I didn't twist fact...I caught you misstating something and corrected you....so going back to original statement....

1.4 points per game improvement is not enough to excuse Dak given he now has cooper and seemingly utilizing him a lot as the leading WR now....can't see Dak being elite even if he had all the top players around him.
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It's closer to 3 points a game ( 7points from Maher, 7 points from Beas, at least 3 points at the end of Saints game). That's significant considering Cooper's been on the team for only 5 games. If you can't see that Cooper has made a big difference to Dak's play, you are blind or just trolling.
 
Zman5 said:
It's closer to 3 points a game ( 7points from Maher, 7 points from Beas, at least 3 points at the end of Saints game). That's significant considering Cooper's been on the team for only 5 games. If you can't see that Cooper has made a big difference to Dak's play, you are blind or just trolling.
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here you go again..... it is what it is...the final score is on the score board....7 from maher? well maher missed 6 in the pre-cooper trade....you are going to hang your hat on 1 point over 5 games!!!! so maher misses in first 7 games don't count in your book?

and you want to talk about beas drop...and want to tell me there was no miss or drop in the first 7 games? they would count the same... come on dude...you are trying really hard but you make no sense at all. its all desparate excuses....
 
And he still misses wide open receivers, has horrible pocket presence, not accurate when throwing a pass over 20 yards, doesn’t read pre snap blitzes, holds the ball too long, stares down one receiver and can’t throw a receiver open so what’s your point. Numbers can be deceiving. Trust your eyes!
 
CowboysFaninHouston said:
here you go again..... it is what it is...the final score is on the score board....7 from maher? well maher missed 6 in the pre-cooper trade....you are going to hang your hat on 1 point over 5 games!!!! so maher misses in first 7 games don't count in your book?

and you want to talk about beas drop...and want to tell me there was no miss or drop in the first 7 games? they would count the same... come on dude...you are trying really hard but you make no sense at all. its all desparate excuses....
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So you want to blame Cooper and Dak for Maher missing kicks? You harp on Dak's missed pass to Gallup yet you want to dismiss Dak's perfect TD pass that was dropped by Beas. That's pathetic attempt to bash Dak and Cooper.
 
eromeopolk said:
Did you see Amari Cooper run routes and not drop passes. That definitely helps your QB rating after a bye when you add a no.1 WR.
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Definitely, but Cooper's contribution has been acknowledged by everyone. He's the best WR now.

I'm very interested to see Cooper, Gallup, Austin at Philly. I see that as the starting lineup next year. I've always been a fan of Beasley, but he's very likely gone, and I think Austin complements our offense better. Hope we keep him for next year. I would have offered him a contract while injured. Make a guy feel wanted when he is at a low point.
 
Dak is Dak
Linehan has changed, he's coaching for his life.
If his ego will continue to leave his base offense behind we and Dak will be fine.
 
Zman5 said:
So you want to blame Cooper and Dak for Maher missing kicks? You harp on Dak's missed pass to Gallup yet you want to dismiss Dak's perfect TD pass that was dropped by Beas. That's pathetic attempt to bash Dak and Cooper.
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!!!? w*** are you taking about. I believe you have reading comprehension problem. show me where I said Maher's miss is because of Dak. On the other hand you clearly blamed Maher for lower scoring average, with false stats...making stuff up...you have to be either drunk, high or stupid not to be able to follow a simple logic
 
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