Dak before/after the bye split

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Dak is a brand new QB since the bye. I didn't notice how much better he's played. I don't think anyone has.

Cmp Att Yds TD Int Cmp% Y/A Passer Rating
Before 128 206 1417 8 4 62 6.9 87
After 115 158 1258 6 1 73 8.0 106

Very annoying that what you see when you edit isn't what shows up in the forum. The columns are all lined up when I edit.
 
Dak is a brand new QB since the bye. I didn't notice how much better he's played. I don't think anyone has.

Cmp Att Yds TD Int Cmp% Y/A Passer Rating
Before 128 206 1417 8 4 62 6.9 87
After 115 158 1258 6 1 73 8.0 106

Very annoying that what you see when you edit isn't what shows up in the forum.
Amari cooper and hc/oc coaching for their jobs. plus the teams beginning to really believe in themselves now.
 
Dak is a brand new QB since the bye. I didn't notice how much better he's played. I don't think anyone has.

Cmp Att Yds TD Int Cmp% Y/A Passer Rating
Before 128 206 1417 8 4 62 6.9 87
After 115 158 1258 6 1 73 8.0 106

Very annoying that what you see when you edit isn't what shows up in the forum. The columns are all lined up when I edit.


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           Cmp    Att    Yds    TD    Int    Cmp%    Y/A    Passer Rating
Before     128    206    1417    8    4      62      6.9         87
After      115    158    1258    6    1      73      8.0         106
 
That definitely has something to the with the offensive line after Colombo took over. Dak was always playing under pressure before the bye with the OL at times falling apart against the pass rush. They still do to some extent but definitely doing better than before and that helps Dak a lot.
 
There are maybe 3 QBs alive that can carry an unimaginative offense with Deonte Thompson, Allen Hurns, Cole Beasley and a green Michael Gallup as your main pass targets. With that said, Dak also deserves equal blame for not playing well. No doubt about it.

With that said, we're probably looking at a more consistent 8-4 team right now if Cooper is on the team starting Week 1. Meaning you don't need a miraculous 4 game winning streak just to get to 7-5.
 
There are maybe 3 QBs alive that can carry an unimaginative offense with Deonte Thompson, Allen Hurns, Cole Beasley and a green Michael Gallup as your main pass targets. With that said, Dak also deserves equal blame for not playing well. No doubt about it.

With that said, we're probably looking at a more consistent 8-4 team right now if Cooper is on the team starting Week 1. Meaning you don't need a miraculous 4 game winning streak just to get to 7-5.

We came into the year with such little talent on the outside it is crazy that anyone thought it would work.

Especially when we have an unimaginative system.
 
I do find t humorous that before the season started, most people who pay attention were saying that our WR Corp and Te’s were the worst in the league.

And now that they have added a legit WR. People want to use that receivers addition as a slight against Dak. Because he didn’t “carry” the worst WR and TE groups in the league.
 
Dak is a brand new QB since the bye. I didn't notice how much better he's played. I don't think anyone has.

Cmp Att Yds TD Int Cmp% Y/A Passer Rating
Before 128 206 1417 8 4 62 6.9 87
After 115 158 1258 6 1 73 8.0 106

Very annoying that what you see when you edit isn't what shows up in the forum. The columns are all lined up when I edit.
yes, there is improvement. you add a two time probowler and 1000 yard receiver and a top 10 talent. if we didn't improve I would drop Dak right there and then. with that said, the results ultimately have to show in scoring and right now we averaged 20 pts prior to cooper and 21.4 after cooper. not a big difference given the talent he was provided. there is still 4 more games to play, so lets see if there is improvement.
 
Dak is a brand new QB since the bye. I didn't notice how much better he's played. I don't think anyone has.
It really goes back nine games, although his fumbles are a problem (OL issues haven't helped). Still, there's no doubt his passing has improved.

Prescott's passer rating
First 12 career games (2016) 108.3
next 8 games (2016-17) 92.3
next 8 games (2017) 85.5
next 8 games (2017-18) 80.8
last 9 games (2018) 101.9
 
yes, there is improvement. you add a two time probowler and 1000 yard receiver and a top 10 talent. if we didn't improve I would drop Dak right there and then. with that said, the results ultimately have to show in scoring and right now we averaged 20 pts prior to cooper and 21.4 after cooper. not a big difference given the talent he was provided. there is still 4 more games to play, so lets see if there is improvement.
4 straight "W"
 
Dak is just one of those guys that people either like or don't like and if he throws one incomplete pass his haters will say he's a bum. He is flawed, but he is still a good QB. If he masters the deep sideline pass, there would be nothing to complain about. I posted on anther thread, he does not have 1500 attempts yet, but once he does, he is eligible for NFL leader lists on pro football reference. Once he's eligible this is where he will stand

2nd all-time int % to only Rodgers 1.7
10th all-time passer rating 95.5
4th all-time completion % 65.7
35th all-time YPA 7.4 Which gets higher by the game with Cooper
67th all-time TD % 4.5 see above

Throw in his 1000 yards rushing in less than 3 seasons and 17 Rushing TD's to go with his 59 passing TD's and I will take him all day.

I think a lot of the hate comes from the love and loyalty to Romo. He may never be the passer Romo was, but that doesn't mean he won't be more of a winner.
 
I do find t humorous that before the season started, most people who pay attention were saying that our WR Corp and Te’s were the worst in the league.

And now that they have added a legit WR. People want to use that receivers addition as a slight against Dak. Because he didn’t “carry” the worst WR and TE groups in the league.
Agreed, so why did you give up on Dak during the first 8 games bro?

Glad to see you back.
 
Dak is just one of those guys that people either like or don't like and if he throws one incomplete pass his haters will say he's a bum. He is flawed, but he is still a good QB. If he masters the deep sideline pass, there would be nothing to complain about. I posted on anther thread, he does not have 1500 attempts yet, but once he does, he is eligible for NFL leader lists on pro football reference. Once he's eligible this is where he will stand

2nd all-time int % to only Rodgers 1.7
10th all-time passer rating 95.5
4th all-time completion % 65.7
35th all-time YPA 7.4 Which gets higher by the game with Cooper
67th all-time TD % 4.5 see above

Throw in his 1000 yards rushing in less than 3 seasons and 17 Rushing TD's to go with his 59 passing TD's and I will take him all day.

I think a lot of the hate comes from the love and loyalty to Romo. He may never be the passer Romo was, but that doesn't mean he won't be more of a winner.
This.^^^^
 
There are maybe 3 QBs alive that can carry an unimaginative offense with Deonte Thompson, Allen Hurns, Cole Beasley and a green Michael Gallup as your main pass targets. With that said, Dak also deserves equal blame for not playing well. No doubt about it.

With that said, we're probably looking at a more consistent 8-4 team right now if Cooper is on the team starting Week 1. Meaning you don't need a miraculous 4 game winning streak just to get to 7-5.

With a decent play caller, I think the offense could have been a lot more effective, with just the players we started the season with.

Austin was making plays before being hurt. Butler made plays last year. We never fed him while he was. We only gave him one target this year. And we used Thompson as a possession receiver, not using him deep. All that speed largely going to waste.

But as you say, there was blame to go around beyond Linehan. The oline has come alive with Alexander gone and Colombo taking over. Dak was playing poorly. And then there's Hurd.

But Hurns being such a dud really did hurt. He was supposed to be a solid possession WR. Our best outside guy, though maybe not as good as Beasley. But his first 6 games were just poor, culminating in a 5 target 0 receptions "effort".

But right after that, just before the bye, he went 5 of 6 for 74 yards. The kind of production we needed all along from him. Since the bye, he's only had 4 targets, all of which he caught, for about 17.5 yards a pop.

With Cooper bumping everyone down a notch in the rotation, we've got a good top 3 with Cooper, Beasley, and Gallup. Nice balance there too. Hurns adds one good play a game.

Sure wish we had a TE, though.
 

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