Dak benefit of the doubt will be gone with fans

[blueblood70]

If Dak get's a new contract which pays him like the Top QB's then he won't be given too much margin for error with the fans.
Being a 4th round pick and his ability to right the ship has endured him to the fans. But, now that he will be paid like the top QB's he will be expected to play like one and things that may have been forgiven by fans before won't any more.
It's not that he's overpaid that upsets people, it's the fact that him taking up more and more of the cap space prevents the team from retaining players due to the restraints implemented by the cap.
He will be expected to show that he can carry the team and be the main cog that elevates the team/players to the upper level.
He needs to show that the players he has around him is irrelevant up to a certain point and be able to perform even when he isn't surrounded by top notch players.
Right now he has Zeke, Cooper, and Gallop that are excellent players and help mask a lot of his deficiencies in a lot of instances.
Now, he will be expected to perform even if/when those players go out due to injury.

he doesnt care hes in full greed mode, selfishness vs selflessness..

hes proving nothing that indicates he should be be a top paid QB , not one thing..its nice you miss the playoffs 2 of 3 years finish 8-8 play bad down the stretch and get rewarded..SMH

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And those people don't even understand Goff and Wentz also signed a 4 year deal.

Exactly.

 

[Typhus]

True. But that's sort of my point. If these Super Bowl winning quarterbacks have struggled when they don't have a great team around them......why is Dak or anyone else expected to not do it?

Because you cant win in this game if you cant do it.
Ive never believed that Dak couldn't be the best that Dak can be, but I have stated and believe that he will never be good enough to achieve success vs the current talent at the position in the NFL currently, achieving greatness level of success.
Im also not a moron that doesn't understand that Dak is the best option that this team has right now, he is, that's the conundrum.
We can all pretend to be GMs on this forum, but we are really just stating our own opinions on talent,, some better, some worse, doesn't matter.
Bottom line is that this franchise painted themselves into a corner with Dak, and now his agent is taking full leverage.
Dak can alleviate most of the displeasure, distrust, call it whatever you will, by just being his own man and taking a team friendly deal... man aint gonna starve!

 

[basel90]

True. But that's sort of my point. If these Super Bowl winning quarterbacks have struggled when they don't have a great team around them......why is Dak or anyone else expected to not do it?

dak had a super cast around him and failed. 1-6 against winning teams, heck he also lost to the jets and bears.

 

[Sydla]

True. But that's sort of my point. If these Super Bowl winning quarterbacks have struggled when they don't have a great team around them......why is Dak or anyone else expected to not do it?

Those two QBs have rarely struggled to the extent you think they have.

Rodgers has never had a season as bad as Dak's. The last time Brees played as poorly as Dak did in 2017, it was 2007 (maybe 2010).

 

[LatinMind]

The best-case scenario for Dak.
The traditional franchise QB deal: 5 years, $170ish million, $130 million guaranteed.
The most likely scenario for young starting quarterbacks is a long term contract with more than 75% of that cash guaranteed. Recent examples.

• Wilson (2019): four years, $140 million, $107 million guaranteed
• Goff (2019): four years, $134 million, $110 million guaranteed
• Wentzie (2019): four years, $128 million, $107.9 million guaranteed

Those were all contract extensions that added new money to current deals. Dak would be starting anew, leaving him open to a deal a la Carr's from 2017 with Raiders (five years, $125 million, $70.2 million guaranteed).

It would make sense if Dak were to follow the Goff route, since they were drafted in the same season and because Dak doesn’t have the same injury concerns Wentzie does each and every season.

From whats been said the hold up is Dak's agent wanting 4 yr deal because of the impending TV deal. With this deal being fast tracked it will allow the new money projections to be considered in a longer deal that would help the team. That 1 deal would actually turn into a huge two deals with a restrucutre and extension before yr 4 or 5.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Because you cant win in this game if you cant do it.
Ive never believed that Dak couldn't be the best that Dak can be, but I have stated and believe that he will never be good enough to achieve success vs the current talent at the position in the NFL currently, achieving greatness level of success.
Im also not a moron that doesn't understand that Dak is the best option that this team has right now, he is, that's the conundrum.
We can all pretend to be GMs on this forum, but we are really just stating our own opinions on talent,, some better, some worse, doesn't matter.
Bottom line is that this franchise painted themselves into a corner with Dak, and now his agent is taking full leverage.
Dak can alleviate most of the displeasure, distrust, call it whatever you will, by just being his own man and taking a team friendly deal... man aint gonna starve!

Dak was getting hate making $2 million a year. He'll get hate regardless .

 

[5Stars]

4 million will help them pay the next person in line to overpay.

Right...so are you saying, take the money and run. A QB, especially a young QB like Dak should realize he has more potential in the future if he would settle for a little less, hell, 4 mil would be great for the TEAM.

In my goofy brain, if I'm on a TEAM that I love and want to win a SB I would sacrifice a little for the TEAM. Dak has a bright future, however, it appears that he thinks he's a little greater than he is. Not good...

 

[Typhus]

Dak was getting hate making $2 million a year. He'll get hate regardless .

I don't disagree.

 

[basel90]

When has Dak ever had the benefit of the doubt from fans? He didn't have it last year at 500k a year so why should he care?

Yeah but Aaron Rodgers and Drew Bree's haven't always strived and they were the highest paid and were allowed to have excuses.....

Dak is not in the same league with Brees and Rodgers. Not even close and he is regressing.

 

[starfan1]

Thread too funny. Dak has never got benefit of doubt with a large % of fan base

 

[Risen Star]

Just give Dak a chance. That's all I ask.

 

[5Stars]

Thread too funny. Dak has never got benefit of doubt with a large % of fan base

What doubt?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Those two QBs have rarely struggled to the extent you think they have.

Rodgers has never had a season as bad as Dak's. The last time Brees played as poorly as Dak did in 2017, it was 2007 (maybe 2010).

Well I'm not arguing here that Dak at his worst is as good as Rodgers at his worst. My point was these guys have struggled when they didn't have pieces around them. There's no way to argue around that. My argument was never Dak was as good as them. Its actually the opposite. If these veterans have struggled when the pieces aren't around him then why wouldn't Dak?

Because you cant win in this game if you cant do it.
Ive never believed that Dak couldn't be the best that Dak can be, but I have stated and believe that he will never be good enough to achieve success vs the current talent at the position in the NFL currently, achieving greatness level of success.
Im also not a moron that doesn't understand that Dak is the best option that this team has right now, he is, that's the conundrum.
We can all pretend to be GMs on this forum, but we are really just stating our own opinions on talent,, some better, some worse, doesn't matter.
Bottom line is that this franchise painted themselves into a corner with Dak, and now his agent is taking full leverage.
Dak can alleviate most of the displeasure, distrust, call it whatever you will, by just being his own man and taking a team friendly deal... man aint gonna starve!

But no one else takes a team friendly deal so what's the point? Y'all want him to take a team friendly deal because y'all think it will help them sign this magical player. But it won't. You know where his 4 million will go? To paying Jaylon Smith.

dak had a super cast around him and failed. 1-6 against winning teams, heck he also lost to the jets and bears.

IF they went 1-6 guess what? That wasn't no super cast buddy lol.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Rodgers, in like the last decade, has had one season with a QB Rating below 95............ and he got criticized that year to the point some wondered if he was washed up.

You Dak guys can't have it both ways............ you can't say he deserves to be the highest paid in football and then turn around and constantly make excuses for him when he struggles.

Nodody said he deserves to be the highest paid. The ONLY people saying he is going to be the highest paid are trolls like you. LOL

And its not about deserving anyway. Since when did that factor in?

The TRAIL OF TEARS continues.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Just give Dak a chance. That's all I ask.

Funniest post I've seen all day. HILARIOUSSSSSSSS.......

 

[OmerV]

Because you cant win in this game if you cant do it.
Ive never believed that Dak couldn't be the best that Dak can be, but I have stated and believe that he will never be good enough to achieve success vs the current talent at the position in the NFL currently, achieving greatness level of success.
!

So every game is just about a 1 on 1 battle between the QBs, and the QB with the most talent plays every game at a level that is better than the QB with somewhat less talent? If that's the case the rest of the NFL should just throw in the towel and leave it to KC, GB, NO and Seattle to duke it out.

 

[CowboyRoy]

If Dak get's a new contract which pays him like the Top QB's then he won't be given too much margin for error with the fans.
Being a 4th round pick and his ability to right the ship has endured him to the fans. But, now that he will be paid like the top QB's he will be expected to play like one and things that may have been forgiven by fans before won't any more.
It's not that he's overpaid that upsets people, it's the fact that him taking up more and more of the cap space prevents the team from retaining players due to the restraints implemented by the cap.
He will be expected to show that he can carry the team and be the main cog that elevates the team/players to the upper level.
He needs to show that the players he has around him is irrelevant up to a certain point and be able to perform even when he isn't surrounded by top notch players.
Right now he has Zeke, Cooper, and Gallop that are excellent players and help mask a lot of his deficiencies in a lot of instances.
Now, he will be expected to perform even if/when those players go out due to injury.

The TRAIL OF TEARS continues.

 

[OmerV]

dak had a super cast around him and failed. 1-6 against winning teams, heck he also lost to the jets and bears.

It's funny how Dak lost those games, and the other 53 players got screwed by it.

 

[Typhus]

he doesnt care hes in full greed mode, selfishness vs selflessness..

hes proving nothing that indicates he should be be a top paid QB , not one thing..its nice you miss the playoffs 2 of 3 years finish 8-8 play bad down the stretch and get rewarded..SMH

If Dak has proven anything its his ability to take a hit,, so what... fans got too attached to the fragile Romo era.
If Dak has proven anything else its that he fails in crucial situations and crucial games...
If fans that proclaim to be talent experts cant recognize obvious talent flaws, that can never be corrected.. you cant coach obvious flaws out of a QB esp, ask any pro scout...
Than you just keep prying Dak lovers... just keep praying