Dak did not play well

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Of course I would. I thought Wentz looked great. I don't get why you have like Wentz but can't appreciate Daks performance. Dak was good and Wentz was great. What's the problem?

I'd still rather take Dak in the 4th than Wentz with two first rounders and a 2nd.....

The problem is Dak wasn't good. He's the reason we lost. He allowed the Giants to sell out on the run game. They never had to adjust because our QB was incapable of forcing them to.

Yeah, I'll disagree. Give me the elite franchise QB. Those picks don't matter if I'm getting that player. The fact that the Eagles have him and we're left to hope Rayne Dakota can develop sickens me.
 

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The problem is Dak wasn't good. He's the reason we lost. He allowed the Giants to sell out on the run game. They never had to adjust because our QB was incapable of forcing them to.

Yeah, I'll disagree. Give me the elite franchise QB. Those picks don't matter if I'm getting that player. The fact that the Eagles have him and we're left to hope Rayne Dakota can develop sickens me.
So after one game Dak is crap but after one game Wentz is a franchise qb.......what's your agenda here? Dak didn't drop two touchdowns that would be Cole and Dez.......
 

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The Sports Pope, the great Mike Francesca, addressed this point yesterday.

A Cowboy fan called in and said, "Hey Mike, first time, long time. Listen, I was watching the Cowboys and I have to say I am really impressed with Dak Prescott and I think I've seen all I am going to see from Tony Romo and I am ready to move on."

The Pope's response was excellent: "You are out of your mind if you think Dak Prescott played good on Sunday. He was nowhere near good. He was decidedly average. He dinked and dunked his way down the field all game. He didn't make any plays, and he didn't make anyone better. Dak Prescott can't even hold Tony Romo's shorts."

While I know the point is not to compare the two, the fact of the matter is that we need a QB of Romo's caliber to win with this offense (which, it looks like, is not going anywhere anytime soon). DAK was very average (He average like 5 yards per attempt, that is TERRIBLE) and he looked exactly like Weeden and Cassel. Sure he took some deep shots, but so did Weeden and Cassel. He checks down WAY too much-we saw shades of it against Seattle, and we saw it again on Sunday. That is not how an effective NFL quarterback plays, but simply passing it three yards on every play.

As someone correctly pointed out, he is graded on an absolute scale, not on a "fourth round rookie QB scale." Based on the absolute scale, he was below average.

Not to mention, when he audibled the play it almost always resulted in a negative play for our offense. That is on him and his preparation. Again, I DO NOT CARE that he is a 4th round rookie QB, I care that he can be a franchise NFL quarterback and I did not see that on Sunday at all except for the first drive.
 

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So after one game Dak is crap but after one game Wentz is a franchise qb.......what's your agenda here? Dak didn't drop two touchdowns that would be Cole and Dez.......

My agenda is my opinion on both players. The same thought process you use to have anything to say on the NFL draft. Have you had any opinion on draft prospects in the past? Well how do you know? What's your agenda?

We have the same conversations every year. Now it's the oh, how could you possibly know yet portion of the calendar.

The Giants used the fact the Cowboys had no QB to their advantage in that game. This is why we lost. This is why their defense looked so salty. They knew they didn't have to worry about anything down the field.
 

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My agenda is my opinion on both players. The same thought process you use to have anything to say on the NFL draft. Have you had any opinion on draft prospects in the past? Well how do you know? What's your agenda?

We have the same conversations every year. Now it's the oh, how could you possibly know yet portion of the calendar.

The Giants used the fact the Cowboys had no QB to their advantage in that game. This is why we lost. This is why their defense looked so salty. They knew they didn't have to worry about anything down the field.

I'm referring to you giving Dak the lost solely after guys on his team dropped touchdowns and didn't make plays on defense. He wasn't great but was he suppose to be in his first game in the NFL? You know he's not. Dak shouldn't even be starting right now and wouldn't be if it wasn't for a injury to Romo.

And your favorite QB Wentz wouldn't be starting either if Bradford was still there........
 

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Ok, ok, ok, we get it, some of you are seers who can see into the future, while us mere mortals can only take it day by day, or game by game, to assess a QB. Ok, we get it, Dak is horrible, so horrible Sanchez will take over next week , or shortly thereafter, because some radio guy with an agenda(Broaddus?) hinted as much. (What probably happened, is he took the signing of Sanchez to mean the organization really doesn't have much faith in rookie Dak) Ok, ok, and I get it, Dak can not carry Wentz's or Romo's jock strap because he has a weak arm, a noodle head, and lacks work ethic, even though it has been stated countless times how much Dak has stayed after hours to learn, and has even memorized the dink and dunk play book already. (That might run counter to what I just wrote, except it's still an NFL playbook. Ok, nevermind. I'll take that last sentence back.)

If you really believe Dak was responsible for the Dumb and Dumber play calling, I have a used cat box I'd like to sell you. He's a smart guy. I bet we won't be seeing any more screens to Witten. Not that the play call will be totally eradicated from the NFL Playbook for Dummies. After all, it's important to wave the white flag on a 3rd and long. That way nobody loses their job.

But I really like this one: Dak won't ever be anything but a back up because he was drafted in round 4 and we all know QB's drafted after round 1, (like the Marvelous Mighty Wentz he, with the impressive home win over the hapless Browns) will stink up the joint and never be considered franchise QB's. Montana, Staubach, Brady, Romo, Wilson all say HOWDY! I hesitated to put Romo in there, since, by most of you Dak non-believers, specifically the OP, are using stats, or physical traits to justify your impatience, er stance. Well, there's a big ol' goose egg by Romo's name in the most important stat of all: Super Bowl wins. Yeah, that Romo, he sure is an elite QB says the 31 other teams fans like never. Of course we loyal Cowboy fans counter with: but, but, but, Romo has had lousy coaches, lousy OL, lousy receivers, blah, blah, and more blah. Well, here's what I do know: Romo is a great sandlot QB with two playoff wins in what, 13 years.

Now for the bad news. Dak was only two TD passes away from Dakmania, or Wentzmania for one of you. Thank you, Bease, Dez, and TWill. Because of you, we have posters retreating to Daksylvania, a remote area where blood spewing, blood sucking whatever, is common.

Personally, I'm sorta glad Dak started out this way, and not so high he can't possibly live up to his billing. I know I never like coming down to earth after flying high. It sucks. And Russell Wilson says, I sucked tomatoes my first game. And now look? No big fat zero by my name!
 

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Ok, ok, ok, we get it, some of you are seers who can see into the future, while us mere mortals can only take it day by day, or game by game, to assess a QB. Ok, we get it, Dak is horrible, so horrible Sanchez will take over next week , or shortly thereafter, because some radio guy with an agenda(Broaddus?) hinted as much. (What probably happened, is he took the signing of Sanchez to mean the organization really doesn't have much faith in rookie Dak) Ok, ok, and I get it, Dak can not carry Wentz's or Romo's jock strap because he has a weak arm, a noodle head, and lacks work ethic, even though it has been stated countless times how much Dak has stayed after hours to learn, and has even memorized the dink and dunk play book already. (That might run counter to what I just wrote, except it's still an NFL playbook. Ok, nevermind. I'll take that last sentence back.)

If you really believe Dak was responsible for the Dumb and Dumber play calling, I have a used cat box I'd like to sell you. He's a smart guy. I bet we won't be seeing any more screens to Witten. Not that the play call will be totally eradicated from the NFL Playbook for Dummies. After all, it's important to wave the white flag on a 3rd and long. That way nobody loses their job.

But I really like this one: Dak won't ever be anything but a back up because he was drafted in round 4 and we all know QB's drafted after round 1, (like the Marvelous Mighty Wentz he, with the impressive home win over the hapless Browns) will stink up the joint and never be considered franchise QB's. Montana, Staubach, Brady, Romo, Wilson all say HOWDY! I hesitated to put Romo in there, since, by most of you Dak non-believers, specifically the OP, are using stats, or physical traits to justify your impatience, er stance. Well, there's a big ol' goose egg by Romo's name in the most important stat of all: Super Bowl wins. Yeah, that Romo, he sure is an elite QB says the 31 other teams fans like never. Of course we loyal Cowboy fans counter with: but, but, but, Romo has had lousy coaches, lousy OL, lousy receivers, blah, blah, and more blah. Well, here's what I do know: Romo is a great sandlot QB with two playoff wins in what, 13 years.

Now for the bad news. Dak was only two TD passes away from Dakmania, or Wentzmania for one of you. Thank you, Bease, Dez, and TWill. Because of you, we have posters retreating to Daksylvania, a remote area where blood spewing, blood sucking whatever, is common.

Personally, I'm sorta glad Dak started out this way, and not so high he can't possibly live up to his billing. I know I never like coming down to earth after flying high. It sucks. And Russell Wilson says, I sucked tomatoes my first game. And now look? No big fat zero by my name!

Had Dak had the game Wentz had people would still be calling him a back up and patiently waiting for him to have a bad one. There's been a agenda against Dak the minute we drafted him and they didn't show up until he had a uneven but decent game for a rookie.
 

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The Sports Pope, the great Mike Francesca, addressed this point yesterday.

A Cowboy fan called in and said, "Hey Mike, first time, long time. Listen, I was watching the Cowboys and I have to say I am really impressed with Dak Prescott and I think I've seen all I am going to see from Tony Romo and I am ready to move on."

The Pope's response was excellent: "You are out of your mind if you think Dak Prescott played good on Sunday. He was nowhere near good. He was decidedly average. He dinked and dunked his way down the field all game. He didn't make any plays, and he didn't make anyone better. Dak Prescott can't even hold Tony Romo's shorts."

While I know the point is not to compare the two, the fact of the matter is that we need a QB of Romo's caliber to win with this offense (which, it looks like, is not going anywhere anytime soon). DAK was very average (He average like 5 yards per attempt, that is TERRIBLE) and he looked exactly like Weeden and Cassel. Sure he took some deep shots, but so did Weeden and Cassel. He checks down WAY too much-we saw shades of it against Seattle, and we saw it again on Sunday. That is not how an effective NFL quarterback plays, but simply passing it three yards on every play.

As someone correctly pointed out, he is graded on an absolute scale, not on a "fourth round rookie QB scale." Based on the absolute scale, he was below average.

Not to mention, when he audibled the play it almost always resulted in a negative play for our offense. That is on him and his preparation. Again, I DO NOT CARE that he is a 4th round rookie QB, I care that he can be a franchise NFL quarterback and I did not see that on Sunday at all except for the first drive.

So a rookie who nearly beats a two time superbowl winning QB with a greatly revamped defense didn't show you that he can be a franchise QB?
 
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