Dak has got to evolve if we want to beat Eagles

[cnuball21]

Yep.. very little in the way of separation being created by the receivers not named Lamb.. and smart teams are doubling him or rolling coverage his way. The plan they used against the Colts or lining him up in the slot a lot and moving him constantly worked to perfection. Why they didn't do more of that against the Texans is a mystery only Moore can solve. Maybe they didn't respect the Texans' secondary and didn't feel the need to trick it up much. I don't know.

I’ve said it before, when the game gets tight Moore gets tighter.

And yea, I don’t know why people aren’t talking about the WR is more. The blueprint it out IMO - stack the box and shade coverage Lambs way. Take your chances with MG / Noah who have been JAGs this year.

Letting Cooper walk remains one of the worst decisions we’ve made in the last decade. This happening was so predictable.

 

[john van brocklin]

Rush was not changing the play at the line of scrimmage every other snap. He stuck to the game plan, took care of the ball, and won. Even Moore intimated Dak was changing the plays too much.

Thats the template for success.
Wish Dak had learned that lesson.

 

[RonnieT24]

I’ve said it before, when the game gets tight Moore gets tighter.

And yea, I don’t know why people aren’t talking about the WR is more. The blueprint it out IMO - stack the box and shade coverage Lambs way. Take your chances with MG / Noah who have been JAGs this year.

Letting Cooper walk remains one of the worst decisions we’ve made in the last decade. This happening was so predictable.

Indeed it was. I will say this and some won't like it.. but Lamb will not be a legit #1 until he can beat the double 5-6 times a game and still make plays. Doing so is not about physical ability but mental. He has to be able to read the double when it's coming and time his breaks so as not to allow the second guy to get into the play. The thing about the Cowboys offense is that when the defense gets a read on it the #1 receiver is effectively triple teamed because in addition to the corner and safety over the top teams will send an outside backer into the slant lane because they know that's where we want to go with the ball in certain situations. The other thing is Lamb has got to either get a little stronger to be able to get off jams or develop quicker moves off the line to beat it. We know Cooper was a master at the latter.

What we have seen by now is that Lamb, Zeke, TP and Schultz are the top weapons on this offense. And that should be enough, frankly. Lamb and TP are your explosive play guys and Zeke and Schultz are your chain movers. That foursome provides all the elements you need for a successful offense if you just get decent QB and line play .. Hilton is a legit deep threat that they have added.. even more so than Washington.. People will say he's not as fast as he used to be.. but how does that old saying go. "I am not as fast as I once was, but I can be as fast once as I ever was.." Meaning Hilton can threaten the defense deep 5-6 times a game as well as he ever did. He, Washington and Turpin should alternate running 9 routes all game long IMHO. Have that corner bent over at the waist by the middle of the second quarter.

 

[Flamma]

I'm not concerned with the Eagles. Cowboys and Dak have beaten every version of them they've put forth. Real fans know it. I'm not guaranteeing it will happen again but Dak is good enough to beat them.

You should be concerned, because it's not Dak that beats the Eagles. Never has been. It's the Cowboys that beat the Eagles because they are usually the better team. When they're not, we lose. We lose with Dak.

We got our butts kicked in 2017, and our butts kicked in 2019 with Dak. Dak is not going to be the deciding factor in a win or loss against the Eagles this year. He's not the QB that can bridge the gap between us and a better team. As long as Dak doesn't crap the bed and turn the ball over, and our D stops their run, we can win.

 

[cnuball21]

Indeed it was. I will say this and some won't like it.. but Lamb will not be a legit #1 until he can beat the double 5-6 times a game and still make plays. Doing so is not about physical ability but mental. He has to be able to read the double when it's coming and time his breaks so as not to allow the second guy to get into the play. The thing about the Cowboys offense is that when the defense gets a read on it the #1 receiver is effectively triple teamed because in addition to the corner and safety over the top teams will send an outside backer into the slant lane because they know that's where we want to go with the ball in certain situations. The other thing is Lamb has got to either get a little stronger to be able to get off jams or develop quicker moves off the line to beat it. We know Cooper was a master at the latter.

What we have seen by now is that Lamb, Zeke, TP and Schultz are the top weapons on this offense. And that should be enough, frankly. Lamb and TP are your explosive play guys and Zeke and Schultz are your chain movers. That foursome provides all the elements you need for a successful offense if you just get decent QB and line play .. Hilton is a legit deep threat that they have added.. even more so than Washington.. People will say he's not as fast as he used to be.. but how does that old saying go. "I am not as fast as I once was, but I can be as fast once as I ever was.." Meaning Hilton can threaten the defense deep 5-6 times a game as well as he ever did. He, Washington and Turpin should alternate running 9 routes all game long IMHO. Have that corner bent over at the waist by the middle of the second quarter.

Agree about Lamb. Feel like he’s done a good job making plays despite the coverage outside of HOU. Not sure what happened.

I guess we’ll see in Hilton. Not sure he moves the needle but I hope I’m wrong. You have to be able to throw to the whole field to have a complete passing game. Right now I feel like we’re incapable of throwing outside the hashes for the reasons mentioned.

 

[Surfguy]

Welp. It gets deep when evolution is involved. Perhaps we should have some gum and contemplate this for a bit longer?

 

[kskboys]

Indeed it was. I will say this and some won't like it.. but Lamb will not be a legit #1 until he can beat the double 5-6 times a game and still make plays. Doing so is not about physical ability but mental. He has to be able to read the double when it's coming and time his breaks so as not to allow the second guy to get into the play. The thing about the Cowboys offense is that when the defense gets a read on it the #1 receiver is effectively triple teamed because in addition to the corner and safety over the top teams will send an outside backer into the slant lane because they know that's where we want to go with the ball in certain situations. The other thing is Lamb has got to either get a little stronger to be able to get off jams or develop quicker moves off the line to beat it. We know Cooper was a master at the latter.

What we have seen by now is that Lamb, Zeke, TP and Schultz are the top weapons on this offense. And that should be enough, frankly. Lamb and TP are your explosive play guys and Zeke and Schultz are your chain movers. That foursome provides all the elements you need for a successful offense if you just get decent QB and line play .. Hilton is a legit deep threat that they have added.. even more so than Washington.. People will say he's not as fast as he used to be.. but how does that old saying go. "I am not as fast as I once was, but I can be as fast once as I ever was.." Meaning Hilton can threaten the defense deep 5-6 times a game as well as he ever did. He, Washington and Turpin should alternate running 9 routes all game long IMHO. Have that corner bent over at the waist by the middle of the second quarter.

Not true. If a player lacks the physical ability, no amount of effort will matter. Lamb simply does not have the body armor to do what you're suggesting, and I'm not sure he has the lateral agility and quick feet to run the routes as you are suggesting. If he does, he hasn't shown it yet.

 

[Vandyr]

This is his 7th year starting,he's not evolving any longer, he's volved out..lol

This. If the Cowboys want to win a super bowl, they're going to need a different QB.

 

[shabazz]

He's already up to Homo Erectus level so far and the evolution is continuing nicely

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

What those numbers don't tell you is that Mahomes has played his entire career for one of the best OCs and play callers the game has ever seen ... and Dak has played his entire career for.. well something less than that. The play caller and the systems matter. The Cowboys have been built around the running game since Dak got here. When the Cowboys have gotten a big lead they start turning around and handing it off. The Chiefs have always been a passing team so when they get a big lead they keep chuckin it. You WANT your team to be more successful doing the things YOU want to do. Typically you win more when you play YOUR game. That's the way of sports. Passing a lot has NOT been the Cowboys' game as it were. Frankly, I prefer the physical smash mouth brand of football so pointing out that the Cowboys are better when they do it isn't a criticism to me. It's music to my ears..

I think this is one of the better assessment of our team I have seen...with Dak at the helm.

He's not a Rodgers Brady Mahomes Purdy type of QB. It's not a knock...and I don't give a dang how much money he makes. Or how many passing yards we put up.

If he stays in his lane, and we stay with our beast mode running game...this is a tank of an offense.

It's not "hate"....it's good sense. He's just not a thrilla gunslinger. But he is a mover of the offense....and that is what we really want, not only for offense but for our defense too.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

He's already up to Homo Erectus level so far and the evolution is continuing nicely

Many you guys are harsh today!

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I think this is one of the better assessment of our team I have seen...with Dak at the helm.

He's not a Rodgers Brady Mahomes Purdy type of QB. It's not a knock...and I don't give a dang how much money he makes. Or how many passing yards we put up.

If he stays in his lane, and we stay with our beast mode running game...this is a tank of an offense.

It's not "hate"....it's good sense. He's just not a thrilla gunslinger. But he is a mover of the offense....and that is what we really want, not only for offense but for our defense too.

The problem is he won't stay in his lane.

That's what we all want, but he just refuses to do it.

 

[shabazz]

Many you guys are harsh today!

True, but I wasn't the one that titled it evolving

The meatball was served up and I hit it out da park, as usual

 

[Pantone282C]

We have a fullback? What's a fullback? Is that some soccer term?

Someone notify the OC that we have that position,

 

[cnuball21]

Not true. If a player lacks the physical ability, no amount of effort will matter. Lamb simply does not have the body armor to do what you're suggesting, and I'm not sure he has the lateral agility and quick feet to run the routes as you are suggesting. If he does, he hasn't shown it yet.

Lamb is far from the problem. He’s likely going to rack up 1200/1300 yards and around 10 TDs with practically zero help at the WR position.

He may not be elite, but dude has proven he’s capable of being the guy.

 

[glimmerman]

It was a rough game but we found a way to win. That’s what counts. We won. Get better and heal up and get ready for the next team. I think the colts had a good game plan. We had 0 sacks and our Defense usually gets big plays that sparks us and puts up points or extra points. And they threw every look they could at Dak and he still had enough talent along with the rest of the team to get that game winning drive. Some are acting like we lost. We can’t win every game scoring 50 points. We have gotten spoiled. If anything we should have noticed Elliot was breaking tackles but tried featuring Pollard early and using counter plays instead of running through them. Both RBs should have had 5 more carries each.

 

[kskboys]

I think this is one of the better assessment of our team I have seen...with Dak at the helm.

He's not a Rodgers Brady Mahomes Purdy type of QB. It's not a knock...and I don't give a dang how much money he makes. Or how many passing yards we put up.

If he stays in his lane, and we stay with our beast mode running game...this is a tank of an offense.

It's not "hate"....it's good sense. He's just not a thrilla gunslinger. But he is a mover of the offense....and that is what we really want, not only for offense but for our defense too.

He should be and can be a mover of the O, but all too often get gets pass happy and wants to do nothing but throw 30-40 yards downfield. That is when our O starts to stagnate.

 

[kskboys]

Lamb is far from the problem. He’s likely going to rack up 1200/1300 yards and around 10 TDs with practically zero help at the WR position.

He may not be elite, but dude has proven he’s capable of being the guy.

Some of that is true, but as far as him being "the guy", that is far from proven. Agree that he is not the problem.

 

[kskboys]

This is Dak's 7th year in the league. Sooooooooooooooooooooooo, when will this evolution happen? After he retires?

 

[blueblood70]

He has got to realize it’s a team game and it’s not all on him. It’s almost as he is forcing balls to rack up stats. Zeke is as good as I have seen him in years and pollard is a star. Lean on the run game and let them carry us. We don’t need all these force throws to win. We need him to stop turning the ball over and let the team rally around him. Oh and Kellen Moore needs to stop pulling the fullback in short yardage.

wrong but good one keep the troll post coming as if the rest fo the played well accept dak..
ON MOORE,
He had few questionable play calls BUT ,

Many big plays were open , wasn't on Moore when many players failed to execute.

Not all on KM,

2 dropped Tds, some bad routes ran, dropped passes, OL getting pushed into Dak a few times effecting plays., come on man,., just stop, was a bad game all around but we won.

ON DAK,

yup a 14 point defensive 4th qtr blown lead from being 7-0 but hey dak sux .our offense is top 3 in about every category now , when rush played bottom 10..

hes a jag and its his fault we aren't perfect...

That narrative gets old, all the negativity from fans expecting perfection. ive tried to explain to clueless types that there would never be highlight reel catches if qbs threw perfect passes all the time..those almost always come on slightly off target passes. hard to blame a QB with so many moving parts on every play.

did the WR run the correct route, did he get separations, did the OL block long enough for play to develop, is the ball tipped at the line or defender leaves his man and breaks on the other Wr routes and cut under it, and yes sometimes a qb throws bad passes.

many of Daks INT weren't really all his doing, Sunday he had his arm hit for one pick, had a man into his follow through on missed big play , and was being ran off his timing on routes and had to throw on the run or not able to set his feet.
3 dropped passes and 2 dropped tds aren't being discussed enough yet its Dak had terrible day. Like Hes on an Island and the play was perfect exception Daks poor throws.RIGHT!