Dak is nearly on an elite pace against winning teams!

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Why are you comparing him to HOFers? Makes zero sense especially since noone has declared Dak is better than Joe Montana.

New goalpost: has to carry a team like Tom Brady. Lol.


LOL dude.....it;'s not me doing it...it;s the OP of this thread. But hey you keep spinning sheet to however you want to do it. Never even mentioned Montana..The op compares him to futre HoFers. But it's ME you rage at? .but here you are arguing it and claiming yourself the winner.

GAWD people what the is wrong with them.....come on.
 

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Don't you get it? It's crazy talk to over analyze Dak or the team in the last 4 years in regards to wins and losses against quality opponents because Dak himself is only part of the equation. What you need to understand is many posters on this forum spout at nausea um that Dak can't beat winning teams, so what I did was posted the stats that put his numbers up with other Qb's to make a point. The stats do indeed prove statistically that Dak as a QB has a competitive winning percentage against winning teams which is quite to the contrary of what you hear here on this forum.

Many of you want to just point to last year which is okay, but look at the season realistically because Dak was on a historic tear for a majority of the season and even the haters were ball gagged for a period of the 2019 season! Sure things came off the rails, Dak hurt his shoulder and couldn't throw, our gameplans were historically a mess, and our head coach was a walk around puppet with a penchant for wayward interference. Why is it okay for people to claim Dak can't beat good teams and not okay for me to post the historical breakdown thus far? I actually think my post came as a big surprise to many on here whom were just trying to wag their fingers at last years fall off... Do some of you even realize that all great Qb's including super bowl winners have had years where they were pretty terrible? Do some of you not realize that Brady misses wide open receivers all the time? Do some of you not realize that Dak's receivers last year dropped a ton of catch-able passes? Sure Dak shares some blame for not always being his best but he is far from this teams problems.


LOL..."but dak hurt is shoulder".


Sheesh...people....not a fan.
 

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...how about we try this.

Outside of Romo, name 1 quarterback that started for Cowboys that u would prefer over Dak...since Aikman of course.
 

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It's pretty simple that anyone whom is semi-intelligent can comprehend. The stats I posted are the same ones used for Brees, and all the other Qb's listed. They live or die by their teams, coaches, ETC.. The bottom line is the facts don't line up with your defunct narrative. Keep on believing that you got Betty Davis eyes boss it's quite humorous..
Anything thats not anti dak the roaches will ignore. Dont bother
 

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Dak has played in 3 playoff games and in those he has
794 yards passing (265 per game) 5 TDs passing 2 INT. 2 Rush TDs.
10 rushes for 45 yards and 7 first downs and zero fumbles.
His QB Rating is well over 90.

Those are top of league efficiency numbers versus playoff teams in playoff situations.

Advanced metrics guys LOVE Dak. They loved him coming out of college and have loved him ever since because he produces.


Well I am NOT a "metrics guy". I'm just a regular old fan. Emphasis on OLD. When I watched Staubach and White...we didn't have the internet to be experts at. It was right aorund Quincy? that we could argue and act like we were experts to strangers.
I'm neither Dak hater nor Dak lover. I think I can be in the middle and be pretty clear minded. He has his his strengths and faults. I don;t consider him a huge loser...NOR a huge winner. I;ve not seen him take over a game and win with his will...liek a top QB and top money maker would do. Like the other names in this OP list. I both do not expect him to and I expect him to correct some issues that I as a dumb old fan sees.

I keep asking for people to post specific Dak heroics. No one ever does. At least not yet. You say he "produces". And you want me to look at specific times and games. Now sire...I do admit you are one of the first to post some specific stats...but like I said...you cherry pick the games you want me to look at. I admit this is progress and you are the first to post actual game stats. My compliments.

But...if we just choose the game stats we want, that supports our agenda....then those aren't realistic numbers either. I did ask for stats against these "winning teams" in this thread. So far... no one had done it that I have seen.
 

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Can't take you serious after this, lmao. First, you're comparing Prescott to HOF players who have an entire career behind them, not 4 seasons. Good God.
Inconsistent, Lol!


And yet you didnt; say sheet to the OP of this thread. W...in the ....f
 

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Brees 274 games 16 playoff games - 290
Rodgers 174 games 19 playoff games - 193
Prescott 64 games 3 playoff games - 67

But somehow the length of career doesn't matter here. Like having 3 at bats compared to 1000. Not to mention the wear and tear and the longevity and still playing at that level. And once again wins are a team stat. The Philly loss somehow doesn't matter for whatever reason? but these empty wins right here tell you how he's in line with 2 hall of famers! lol
 

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Oh no, there have been numerous threads started by Dak-lovers on this board that compared Dak to Brady. Not one thread, but several. It is common knowledge around here. You must have skipped a lot of the off-season on this board.
Comparing maybe saying he is equal never read it
 

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Oh no, there have been numerous threads started by Dak-lovers on this board that compared Dak to Brady. Not one thread, but several. It is common knowledge around here. You must have skipped a lot of the off-season on this board.

Oh really??? Can't recall a single thread that compared Dak to Tom Brady.
 

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There are some players that I dislike. Dak is one of them. I live in Mississippi and I didn’t like him when he was at Miss. State. I just don’t like his style of play. Now there are players that you don’t like. I am fine with that. Why is is so important to you Dak-lovers that everybody likes him? Well, it is not good enough to just like him, Dak-lovers wants fans to slobber over him like he is a football god. Another point, I don’t care if he was a 4th round pick or if he is an undrafted free agent. Being a 4th round pick only tells me that he was not that great in college. If you think Dak is wonderful for a 4th round pick, you should have went bat **** crazy over Romo.

Loved Romo.

The only issue I have are false statements and BS.

Style of play? I could care less if it gets the job done.
 

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And yet you didnt; say sheet to the OP of this thread. W...in the ....f
@Streetwise Look man, when I made the original post in comparing Dak to other QB's, I never once said Dak was better than or on pace to be the next Tom Brady!
If you're being honest with yourself, you'll admit to this forum being littered with guys that constantly say that Dak "CAN'T" play well against winning teams and that he
pads his stats against lesser competition. The latter is true, Dak does pad his stats against some inferior teams, but this is kind of what QB's do in general right?
So that leaves me with the original stats I posted that broke down Prescott's winning percentage so far in his career against winning teams. I think if you look closely
at the metric provided it does indeed show that Prescott as the Qb of the Cowboys compares well against some pretty good Qb's in far as how his team has fared against
winning teams when it comes to his overall body of work in his short career.

When I said Prescott was looking to be going at an elite pace against winning teams percentage wise I meant what I said. I know it seems like shock value to the Betty Davis Eyes crowd whom eyes don't lie, but the facts are the facts thus far and that can't be taken away from Dak. I see a Qb in Dak that is durable, studious, talented and most of all a great leader, while some of you see a guy whom cant will the team to win by his lonesome. You see, out of all the Super Bowls I've watched in my life the one thing that sticks out in my mind is it's not the Qb that wins it, but the team and the coaches. Romo was a very good Qb, but the team always had weaknesses that prevented them from reaching their goals. Look at the patriots last super bowl victory for example, it was all defense, Brady didn't throw one touchdown, and in fact he looked pretty bad most of the game.

All I'm saying is, for every argument you can make a counter argument can be made available. The reason we argue about Dak is because we all know he is good and has some abilities, the difference is, some of us really believe in those abilities and believe he is our best overall player.
 

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@Streetwise Look man, when I made the original post in comparing Dak to other QB's, I never once said Dak was better than or on pace to be the next Tom Brady!
If you're being honest with yourself, you'll admit to this forum being littered with guys that constantly say that Dak "CAN'T" play well against winning teams and that he
pads his stats against lesser competition. The latter is true, Dak does pad his stats against some inferior teams, but this is kind of what QB's do in general right?
So that leaves me with the original stats I posted that broke down Prescott's winning percentage so far in his career against winning teams. I think if you look closely
at the metric provided it does indeed show that Prescott as the Qb of the Cowboys compares well against some pretty good Qb's in far as how his team has fared against
winning teams when it comes to his overall body of work in his short career.

When I said Prescott was looking to be going at an elite pace against winning teams percentage wise I meant what I said. I know it seems like shock value to the Betty Davis Eyes crowd whom eyes don't lie, but the facts are the facts thus far and that can't be taken away from Dak. I see a Qb in Dak that is durable, studious, talented and most of all a great leader, while some of you see a guy whom cant will the team to win by his lonesome. You see, out of all the Super Bowls I've watched in my life the one thing that sticks out in my mind is it's not the Qb that wins it, but the team and the coaches. Romo was a very good Qb, but the team always had weaknesses that prevented them from reaching their goals. Look at the patriots last super bowl victory for example, it was all defense, Brady didn't throw one touchdown, and in fact he looked pretty bad most of the game.

All I'm saying is, for every argument you can make a counter argument can be made available. The reason we argue about Dak is because we all know he is good and has some abilities, the difference is, some of us really believe in those abilities and believe he is our best overall player.
Dak sux!
 
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