Dak is not my QB

[Gangsta Spanksta]

How many of your fellow CowboysZone members do you estimate have complied with your command since you started posting it in your opinion?

Rocky?

 

[Chuck 54]

Dak is my QB for as long as he is in a Dallas uniform. When he’s gone, I’m on to the next starting QB.
Right now, Cooper Rush is my QB.
It’s amazing how many fans were praising Dak last season, some claiming he deserved to be in the MVP conversation, some calling him elite, top 5.

Dak is what he has always been, an above average franchise QB in the top 15, sometimes playing like he’s top 10. He is a QB that needs to play in a complimentary system with at least a threat in the run game, a good TE, and two capable WRs. But fans are fickle, especially when we can’t win in the playoffs. He and Romo have both been cursed by never having a complete team. Neither has ever had the run game, two receivers, and a playoff caliber defense that can stop the run.

 

[khiladi]

They pretty much accomplished the exact same thing...they are identical QBs with different strengths and weaknesses. And you can now add accumulating injuries to the list...along with fans complaints on how much each of them got paid in their final contracts.

No they are not in anyway the same QB..

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

lol. I can guarantee Rockport did not do any such thing.

So much for good tidings >.>

 

[CT Dal Fan]

It's hilarious that Dak won so many games the past several years and everyone downplayed it.

Cooper Rush does the same- with HEAVY support from the running game, defense, and special teams that Dak did not have early this season- and he gets lauded for it.

Dallas needed two special teams touchdowns to beat Washington. They needed a pick six on Thanksgiving to beat a trash Giants team playing it's third quarterback. They ran the ball for 211 yards to beat Carolina. They needed three 50-plus yard field goals and two miracle turnovers from the defense to hang on against Tampa Bay. All Rush did in those games was not mess it up.

Don't get me wrong, Dak did not have a great season. But the Cowboys' playcalling and execution at other positions improved the past five weeks. And if Dak was healthy and Dallas won these games, we all know what the narrative would be here:

"Dak putting up garbage time wins in a lost season, we need a new QB".

Having said that, I like Rush. I want him back next season. Not because I think he's better than Dak, it's that I no longer trust Dak to stay healthy.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

To be fair, I'm pretty sure Rush has played an easier schedule than Dak did. That's not to say Dak didn't play like hot garbage, but I doubt Rush would have won any of the games Dak lost.

That depends on who Dak is now. Is Dak the quarterback he was last year, that was MVP candidate, or is he that guy who can't avoid the sack and will sit around the backfield taking one? Has NFL ware and tare caught up to him? Will he come back next season, rejuvenated or will he come back next season where he left off this season and continue taking the sack in the backfield?

 

[khiladi]

Remember, Dallas attempts to shore up the OL when Romo was here for a couple years was to get a washed up Marco Rivera, another guy like Montrae Holland as well as Davis. Robert Pettiti, Torrin Tucker and Stephen Peterman. The ONLY reason they drafted Smith was because Flozell Adams left and Jerry knew that they needed a guy to protect Romo’s blind side. It was one of the few picks where BPA aligned with need.

Don’t even get me started on Julius Jones as RB, who used to run directly into the back of OL.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Chapter one: Make sure to read this novel. You can tell me what it said later on.

I'm going to wait for the movie to come out first? >.> let me know, when...

 

[khiladi]

It's hilarious that Dak won so many games the past several years and everyone downplayed it.

Cooper Rush does the same- with HEAVY support from the running game, defense, and special teams that Dak did not have early this season- and he gets lauded for it.

Dallas needed two special teams touchdowns to beat Washington. They needed a pick six on Thanksgiving to beat a trash Giants team playing it's third quarterback. They ran the ball for 211 yards to beat Carolina. They needed three 50-plus yard field goals and two miracle turnovers from the defense to hang on against Tampa Bay. All Rush did in those games was not mess it up.

Don't get me wrong, Dak did not have a great season. But the Cowboys' playcalling and execution at other positions improved the past five weeks. And if Dak was healthy and Dallas won these games, we all know what the narrative would be here:

"Dak putting up garbage time wins in a lost season, we need a new QB".

Having said that, I like Rush. I want him back next season. Not because I think he's better than Dak, it's that I no longer trust Dak to stay healthy.

Dallas led the league in defensive TOs 2 times in those 12-5 seasons and was 5th the other season, plus Dak played against the 3 worst defenses in the league in the NFC East each year. The Commanders and Eagles are not that bad and only the Giants are still as awful.

You weren’t saying these things about Dak in 2017 and 2018 when he was complete trash? Yet he still has more real time playing experience than Cooper Rush still doesn’t have with the starters.

Dak played with Amari, Lamb and Gallup as starting WRs, had Zeke and Pollard averaging 5 YPC as dual backs a large portion of those years and had top 5 blocking.

Cut the excuses…. This is year 9 with Dak in an offense that was adjusted for him once against last year.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Dak can’t throw taking snaps from under center, except for quick routes. The offense under Dak with MM, the “Texas West Coast” was predicated on getting the play in quickly to take advantage of defense not being in the proper personnel packages. This is why you saw Dak snapping the ball with 18-19 seconds left on the clock. Teams that have the personnel to sit back and make Dak read the field and Dak looks like a joke. The offense was really a gimmicky offense meant to hide Dak’s flaws. This is why they had him bail pocket when his early reads were not there.

Maybe the OL blocks better, because Rush’s game is allowing them to block better.

Dak isn’t going to sit back and make anybody pay unless he has 10 seconds to throw if he’s playing awful defenses and the defense allows him to play with the lead.

So was this really the formula in every single game Dak has won- 77 in all?

Or is it just something you made up because Dak Prescott as the Cowboys' QB triggers you (for whatever reason) and it fits the narrative?

Everything you said about Dak and this offense is wrong. The Cowboys went 12-5 three seasons in a row before this 2024 disaster. One of the problems this year was McCarthy's poor playcalling and the basic routes the receivers ran.

It might hurt a lot of people's eyes to see this, but I have read in-depth scouting reports on NFL websites describing how well Dak sees the field and how quickly he got the ball out in season's past. In 2024, I don't think McCarthy trusted the o-line with two rookies starting to hold up well enough and his playcalling when Dak played was stale and predictable.

Prescott excels at reading defenses. This is why his stats against the blitz have been off the charts throughout the past several years. And why do teams blitz Dak? Because they don't want to give him time to pick them apart.

If you want to believe all of Dak's wins were only because he played bad teams and because Jerry built such a roster of all-pros around him to carry him, so be it. There is no amount of factual information that will change anybody's mind about this guy, so it is what it is. Happy Holidays.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Dallas led the league in defensive TOs 2 times in those 12-5 seasons and was 5th the other season, plus Dak played against the 3 worst defenses in the league in the NFC East each year.

Dak played with Amari, Lamb and Gallup as starting WRs, had Zeke and Pollard averaging 5 YPC as dual backs a large portion of those years and had top 5 blocking.

Cut the excuses….

This is exactly the same support Rush has had during this 4-1 stretch that Dak did not have in the 3-5 start. But Dak is a bum and Rush apparently belongs in the team's Ring of Honor.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

hater...

That poor son is probably hating his pops for that

 

[khiladi]

That depends on who Dak is now. Is Dak the quarterback he was last year, that was MVP candidate, or is he that guy who can't avoid the sack and will sit around the backfield taking one? Has NFL ware and tare caught up to him? Will he come back next season, rejuvenated or will he come back next season where he left off this season and continue taking the sack in the backfield?

Dak was garbage before the bye last year and ended the season scrubbing like usual and had his worst game ever in the playoffs. Dak’s MVP stretch was against garbage teams and a healthy OL and a gimmicky offense of snapping the ball early on the snap count,

You people keep acting like Dak has had consistent stretches of MVP play. Every year since Kellen Moore got here, the Dallas offense would put up like 34 PPG for 4-5 game stretch and then implode because Dak came back down to earth when he played good defenses.

 

[khiladi]

This is exactly the same support Rush has had during this 4-1 stretch that Dak did not have in the 3-5 start. But Dak is a bum and Rush apparently belongs in the team's Ring of Honor.

lol.. that 4-1 team was the same team with Rush that was with Dak and Rush didn’t have training camp when th the starters. Rush is dealing with more injuries too. Rush didn’t even have a training camp with these starters like Dak. But carry on with the excuses.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

It's hilarious that Dak won so many games the past several years and everyone downplayed it.

Cooper Rush does the same- with HEAVY support from the running game, defense, and special teams that Dak did not have early this season- and he gets lauded for it.

It's also hilarious that if the defense and running game suddenly improved under Dak, his supporters would go, see, see, what a great leader he is! When that happens to rush, on the other hand, couldn't possibly be leadership.

 

[khiladi]

Dak in games where he isn’t playing ahead and has to sit back and read the field against good defenses makes incredibly stupid decisions.

 

[khiladi]

Rush is not a starter and neither is Dak. Dak would be the best backup in the league, which is what he was drafted for. Dak is horrible against zone defense, while Rush, because he reads quickly isn’t as much a liability. But Dak can exploit man on deep throws much better, which is why he can make explosive plays on early reads.

What Rush has proven is Dak is the reason why the team fails year in and year out.

Now if Rush didn’t have a noodle arm, the conversation would be a lot different and Rush would he highly sought after. With a limited arm, even if you are smart, you are still limited against a defense that doesn’t have to worry about guys getting behind the DBs as much.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

lol.. that 4-1 team was the same team with Rush that was with Dak and Rush didn’t have training camp when th the starters. Rush is dealing with more injuries too. Rush didn’t even have a training camp with these starters like Dak. But carry on with the excuses.

The same team? So the defense was forcing turnovers and stopping the run the first eight weeks? The offensive line blocked that well? McCarthy stuck with the running game when Dak was playing?

This entire Cowboys team has improved. You win in the NFL by playing complementary football. Dallas has just started to do that these past five weeks. They didn't do it in Rush's first two starts either when they lost to Philly and Houston by a combined score of 68-16.

You call these excuses. I call it football. It takes more than a quarterback to win. No matter who he is.

 

[khiladi]

Dak will never be good enough to beat 4 good teams in the playoffs. He’s never shown that ability and he’s had the good fortune of playing in a trash division, dome stadium and good personnel his time here.

He still can’t throw against zone, he’s slow at processing the field and he limits the OC.

 

[khiladi]

The same team? So the defense was forcing turnovers and stopping the run the first eight weeks? The offensive line blocked that well? McCarthy stuck with the running game when Dak was playing?

This entire Cowboys team has improved. You win in the NFL by playing complementary football. Dallas has just started to do that these past five weeks. They didn't do it in Rush's first two starts either when they lost to Philly and Houston by a combined score of 68-16.

You call these excuses. I call it football. It takes more than a quarterback to win. No matter who he is.

1, YOU brought up the past 3 seasons…

2. It’s the same team. You folks were laughing when Rush started off losing running the “Dak offense”, yet here we are. Can’t even give him credit.

3. It’s a lot easier to block for a guy who is getting the ball out in close to 2 SECONDS and controls the clock and keeps the defense off the field and doesn’t make bone headed decisions.

Dak has 9 years buddy, it’s over…