Dak is not my QB

[blueblood70]

Ok let's go there. Look below and tell how they are different. Yes, they had different coaches (Romo had Parcels/Wade Phillips and Dak had MM and they both suffered through Garrett) and schemes, and as I already mention different strengths and weaknesses but at the end of the day their careers are damn near identical in every category (and as Parcels once said you are what your record/stats say you are).

both have exactly 8 seasons with at least 8 games played

Regular Season Record:
Tony Romo: 78-49
Dak Prescott: 76-46

Regular Season Stats:

Post Season Record:
Tony Romo (4 appearances) 2-4
Dak Prescott (5 appearances) 2-5

Post Season Stats:

When comparing the teams they played on, you will see they have had similar talent surrounding them including talent on the OL and offensive skill positions:

Tony Romo's Team All-Pro /Prow-bowl/HOFers & Potential HOFers (OL bolded. Green is Romo's Pro bowl years):

Dak Prescott's Team All-Pro /Prow-bowl/HOFers & Potential HOFers (OL bolded. Green is Dak's Pro bowl years):

I'm really not paying attention to this argument or debate and half the guys I have on block /ignore....

so, I can't tell what you're saying what's the point of this graph just say that Romo and Prescott are pretty much the same players they're having the same careers and are hated on about the same everything just shifted the hate Romo crowd went to the pro dak crowd and vice versa....

hey, I'm a Dallas cowboy fan I can enjoy pulling for all of them including Cooper Rush,

I'm tired of trying to be told who I'm supposed to pick or who's better than the other right now the Cowboys have had a long stretch of not getting to an NFC championship game and it's far from the quarterback's fault I don't care what name you want to plug in there this is a bigger problem with the team not showing up the team that's the coaches the entire team from top to bottom there's at least one from every phase that has let us down...

 

[Vtwin]

You’re arguing just to argue. Is Garrett the caliber of Parcells or Sean Payton? If he is to you then fair enough. If he’s not then what are you arguing? The statement is they are both the same quarterback and have had the same career. You’re arguing against a point because you don’t like the way the point is presented to you is childish.

Putting Parcells and Payton into the discussion is quintessential "Marathoning"

How many games did Romo, as a starter, have those guys?

You think Parcells was actively coaching Romo on the finer points of playing QB the entire time before he reluctantly made him the starter?

Of the four, Parcells, Payton Garrett and McCarthy, rank their actual experience in actually playing the position or in directly coaching QB's.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Anyone who repeats nonsense like Dak can't read defenses is just a complete lunatic.

You want to see something funny but sad? Watch how they say how bad he is but then bring up how he did he get an All Pros and you will hear some of the most stupid reasons ever lol.

 

[Vtwin]

Ok let's go there. Look below and tell how they are different. Yes, they had different coaches (Romo had Parcels/Wade Phillips and Dak had MM and they both suffered through Garrett) and schemes, and as I already mention different strengths and weaknesses but at the end of the day their careers are damn near identical in every category (and as Parcels once said you are what your record/stats say you are).

both have exactly 8 seasons with at least 8 games played

Regular Season Record:
Tony Romo: 78-49
Dak Prescott: 76-46

Regular Season Stats:

Post Season Record:
Tony Romo (4 appearances) 2-4
Dak Prescott (5 appearances) 2-5

Post Season Stats:

When comparing the teams they played on, you will see they have had similar talent surrounding them including talent on the OL and offensive skill positions:

Tony Romo's Team All-Pro /Prow-bowl/HOFers & Potential HOFers (OL bolded. Green is Romo's Pro bowl years):

Dak Prescott's Team All-Pro /Prow-bowl/HOFers & Potential HOFers (OL bolded. Green is Dak's Pro bowl years):

You can say the overall team results are very similar, but to say Romo and Prescott are even remotely similar in the way they individually play the game is a huge reach.

They are very different QB's

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

But how much of that time was he actually focusing on Romo as the QB?

I mean I’d assume a lot? This is the foundation of a quarterback the most integral part of a quarterbacks development is how the career starts. More times then not that defines their career.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

After Romo retired, for some reason, he was propelled into the HOF when he and Prescott are essentially the same caliber of QB. They still haven't recovered from 2016.

Man you aren’t lying. He turned into Tom Brady when he retired….now all people talk about is 2014 as if he won a ring that year. No one talks about how he sucked in 2015 even if it was only a few games.

 

[Vtwin]

I mean I’d assume a lot? This is the foundation of a quarterback the most integral part of a quarterbacks development is how the career starts. More times then not that defines their career.

You think the defensive minded, old school coach was spending time with his 2nd or 3rd string QB who had very little chance of playing? lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Putting Parcells and Payton into the discussion is quintessential "Marathoning"

How many games did Romo, as a starter, have those guys?

You think Parcells was actively coaching Romo on the finer points of playing QB the entire time before he reluctantly made him the starter?

Of the four, Parcells, Payton Garrett and McCarthy, rank their actual experience in actually playing the position or in directly coaching QB's.

Parcels is on record to carefully developing Romo and how he handle him. The marathon continues….

 

[Runwildboys]

You think the defensive minded, old school coach was spending time with his 2nd or 3rd string QB who had very little chance of playing? lol

That's my point. Was Romo the starter even for one full season under Parcels? I honestly don't remember.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You think the defensive minded, old school coach was spending time with his 2nd or 3rd string QB who had very little chance of playing? lol

Maybe Parcells is lying? Sean Payton is too? Romo just developed himself I guess?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That's my point. Was Romo the starter even for one full season under Parcels? I honestly don't remember.

The development of Romo started long before he started though.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

@G2 you see what I mean? Now they are erasing Romo’s history now Payton and Parcells had nothing to do with his development. I guess it was Jerry…

 

[G2]

That's my point. Was Romo the starter even for one full season under Parcels? I honestly don't remember.

Half a season.

 

[G2]

@G2 you see what I mean? Now they are erasing Romo’s history now Payton and Parcells had nothing to do with his development. I guess it was Jerry…

I guess they missed all the of the testimony from Bill. On camera, talking about Romo, lol. Wasn't Romo in Dallas specifically because of Payton? In 2006, he tried to trade for him when he coached for the Saints. Before he ever even played. Parcells refused and then Payton signed Brees.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I guess they missed all the of the testimony from Bill. On camera, talking about Romo, lol. Wasn't Romo in Dallas specifically because of Payton? In 2006, he tried to trade for him when he coached for the Saints. Before he ever even played. Parcells refused and then Payton signed Brees.

Exactly. But Payton had nothing to do with his development huh? He just wanted to trade for him lol. Sucks for Romo because he probably has a completely different career in New Orleans.

 

[Swagger]

After his first 9 starting seasons as the Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo missed circa 15 games. During his first 9 seasons starting as quarterback Dak Prescott has missed circa 25 games...

Quite funny given how many posters ripped Romo for being made of paper throughout his tenure at quarterback. How is Dak getting on?!

 

[Runwildboys]

The development of Romo started long before he started though.

Right. How much does a non-starter develop? Experience is the best teacher, and there's no denying that.

BTW, I'm not even comparing the two of them. I haven't even mentioned Dak once. I'm just pointing out that the allusion to Romo being trained by the best QB coaches is a far cry from reality.

 

[G2]

Exactly. But Payton had nothing to do with his development huh? He just wanted to trade for him lol. Sucks for Romo because he probably has a completely different career in New Orleans.

Agreed, same with Prescott. QBs where their entire careers were wasted.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

As opposed to posters like YOU who dog Dak in order to uplift the fraud that Romo was? You just said Romo didn't accomplish anything. 10 times the better QB? Haha Dude, please try not to post when being emotional. Cmac hurt your feelings I understand. But come on. As a huge fan of both, Romo is DEFINITELY not 10 times better.

Much is made of Dak's 2-5 playoff record. How horrible it is.

But Romo's record is 2-4. Only one less loss, same number of wins. And before anyone drags up the "Romo never had a good team/defense around him like Dak", that's difficult to compare. Just note that Romo led a team with 13 Pro Bowlers one year and lost the first playoff game, at home, that season, if memory serves.

Neither of them was/is HOF material. Too many losses in games they should have won, too little playoff success.

I like both of them both had good qualities and some very good games.

But to try and diss one over the other is just silly, we as Cowboys fans value championships, not wins and stats. Both Dak and Tony fell short of expectations...

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Right. How much does a non-starter develop? Experience is the best teacher, and there's no denying that.

BTW, I'm not even comparing the two of them. I haven't even mentioned Dak once. I'm just pointing out that the allusion to Romo being trained by the best QB coaches is a far cry from reality.

I get what you’re saying….I disagree though.

I think how a player starts his career is huge to his development in this league. Guys like Geno and Darnold…ironically both from the Jets started their careers with poor coaching. Both got better coaching once they left especially Darnold who got with Shanahan.

But look at all those other guys over the years…David Carr, Joey Harrington, Vince Young, Mariota….poor base and development.

On the field development is important too. Especially in becoming an starter in this league.,

But Parcells is on record to handling Romo with care. He wasn’t ready to start. This is Parcells words not mine. That’s coaching. Knowing a guy needs time to develop before going out there before he’s ready. Parcells gave Romo a list of things to do in order to become a successful qb in this league. Coaching and development matters. It’s the difference between becoming Sam Darnold or Zack Wilson.