Dak is not my QB

[TheMarathonContinues]

Agreed, same with Prescott. QBs where their entire careers were wasted.

And that’s all I’m saying. I think any other team Dak and Romo are good enough to win with. But for Romo fans they don’t want them to be in the same category I guess.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

After his first 9 starting seasons as the Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo missed circa 15 games. During his first 9 seasons starting as quarterback Dak Prescott has missed circa 25 games...

Quite funny given how many posters ripped Romo for being made of paper throughout his tenure at quarterback. How is Dak getting on?!

How did Romo only miss 15 games? Didn’t he miss more than that in just 2015 and 2016 alone? I don’t remember people calling him injury prone but I do remember things got so bad he had to be rested and get shots every week just to have his back right by Sunday. I think people had more issues with him choking then his injury history.

 

[blueblood70]

And that’s all I’m saying. I think any other team Dak and Romo are good enough to win with. But for Romo fans they don’t want them to be in the same category I guess.

This is literally no different argument then saying somehow Matthew Stafford had a great career with Detroit and he shouldn't be blamed for Detroit never winning a playoff game or getting to a Super Bowl or even NFC championship game it wasn't his fault and then he goes to the Rams first here wins the Super bowl but get this doesn't even change who he is same guy very good quarterback in this same conversation as Prescott and Romo and he throws a league leading interception and two interceptions in the Super bowl in which his defense and his team stepped up gave him an opportunity to go out and win that game and nobody's talking about the mistakes...

He made a lot of mistakes I've seen Troy and Roger make a lot of mistakes I've seen Danny white make more mistakes than any quarterback I ever known to have played here at a high level that seems to be propped up with some kind of crutch even though his touchdown interception ratios upside down in the playoffs and they're giving him credit to get to 3 NFC championship games in a row somehow lost them but it's not him it's more him than it is Romo and Prescott but let's just keep it on track Matthew Stafford won a Super Bowl with a team ready to win a Super Bowl that thought that Jared Goff wasn't good enough and they brought him over and they win the Super bowl in year one with Matthew Stafford and it paid off I mean it literally paid off and somebody here is thinking that Romo or Prescott could not have done the same thing with that Rams team I mean seriously this place blames our quarterbacks for every little mistake and not for wearing a Superman Cape and it just like they zoom in on all the mistakes and say that's why we lost no you gotta find the reasons why they couldn't function in a broken environment and you act like they should carry the team that's not what happens great teams who win Super Bowls do it like they did with Danny the man was a 500 record player in the regular season literally led the league in interceptions played OK in the playoffs but his team everyone on his team made plays all around them great defense to run game the coaching in the game when they needed to play a clutch play it happened anyone 2 Super Bowls that's what we need around here..

We need players to make some clutch plays versus bad ones literally stop dropping passes stop tipping balls into the other people's hands block better run better if you have a defense that's right there and you're in a close game how about when the interception hit you in the hands you don't drop it or when you have an opportunity to make a hit and dislodge a ball yeah we're talking about Trayvon diggs in the San Francisco game we don't talk about those two plays and how they would have impacted positively this team and you never know what would have happened after they are not making these plays when they're available we have one of the worst run games in the playoffs I've ever seen our offensive line in one game had 11 penalties we had 14 penalties but we're gonna blame it on the quarterback because he made some mistakes quarterbacks make mistakes all quarterbacks make mistakes great teams don't use that as an excuse they just keep on playing and they find ways to win in the end that should be the storyline here yes Romo or Prescott probably can win on the same teams that Roger and Troy were afforded those were some great benefits those players had to go into the playoffs with that coaching staff and those players that had their backs...

 

[5Stars]

This is literally no different argument then saying somehow Matthew Stafford had a great career with Detroit and he shouldn't be blamed for Detroit never winning a playoff game or getting to a Super Bowl or even NFC championship game it wasn't his fault and then he goes to the Rams first here wins the Super bowl but get this doesn't even change who he is same guy very good quarterback in this same conversation as Prescott and Romo and he throws a league leading interception and two interceptions in the Super bowl in which his defense and his team stepped up gave him an opportunity to go out and win that game and nobody's talking about the mistakes...

He made a lot of mistakes I've seen Troy and Roger make a lot of mistakes I've seen Danny white make more mistakes than any quarterback I ever known to have played here at a high level that seems to be propped up with some kind of crutch even though his touchdown interception ratios upside down in the playoffs and they're giving him credit to get to 3 NFC championship games in a row somehow lost them but it's not him it's more him than it is Romo and Prescott but let's just keep it on track Matthew Stafford won a Super Bowl with a team ready to win a Super Bowl that thought that Jared Goff wasn't good enough and they brought him over and they win the Super bowl in year one with Matthew Stafford and it paid off I mean it literally paid off and somebody here is thinking that Romo or Prescott could not have done the same thing with that Rams team I mean seriously this place blames our quarterbacks for every little mistake and not for wearing a Superman Cape and it just like they zoom in on all the mistakes and say that's why we lost no you gotta find the reasons why they couldn't function in a broken environment and you act like they should carry the team that's not what happens great teams who win Super Bowls do it like they did with Danny the man was a 500 record player in the regular season literally led the league in interceptions played OK in the playoffs but his team everyone on his team made plays all around them great defense to run game the coaching in the game when they needed to play a clutch play it happened anyone 2 Super Bowls that's what we need around here..

We need players to make some clutch plays versus bad ones literally stop dropping passes stop tipping balls into the other people's hands block better run better if you have a defense that's right there and you're in a close game how about when the interception hit you in the hands you don't drop it or when you have an opportunity to make a hit and dislodge a ball yeah we're talking about Trayvon diggs in the San Francisco game we don't talk about those two plays and how they would have impacted positively this team and you never know what would have happened after they are not making these plays when they're available we have one of the worst run games in the playoffs I've ever seen our offensive line in one game had 11 penalties we had 14 penalties but we're gonna blame it on the quarterback because he made some mistakes quarterbacks make mistakes all quarterbacks make mistakes great teams don't use that as an excuse they just keep on playing and they find ways to win in the end that should be the storyline here yes Romo or Prescott probably can win on the same teams that Roger and Troy were afforded those were some great benefits those players had to go into the playoffs with that coaching staff and those players that had their backs...

Yeah, what he said! (whatever the hell it is)?

 

[Runwildboys]

I get what you’re saying….I disagree though.

I think how a player starts his career is huge to his development in this league. Guys like Geno and Darnold…ironically both from the Jets started their careers with poor coaching. Both got better coaching once they left especially Darnold who got with Shanahan.

But look at all those other guys over the years…David Carr, Joey Harrington, Vince Young, Mariota….poor base and development.

On the field development is important too. Especially in becoming an starter in this league.,

But Parcells is on record to handling Romo with care. He wasn’t ready to start. This is Parcells words not mine. That’s coaching. Knowing a guy needs time to develop before going out there before he’s ready. Parcells gave Romo a list of things to do in order to become a successful qb in this league. Coaching and development matters. It’s the difference between becoming Sam Darnold or Zack Wilson.

Clearly we all dislike Garrett as a coach, but he was a pretty good backup QB. I have no idea how good he was as a QB coach, but I assume he knew his stuff in that regard.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Clearly we all dislike Garrett as a coach, but he was a pretty good backup QB. I have no idea how good he was as a QB coach, but I assume he knew his stuff in that regard.

I’ll be generous and say I don’t think much of Garrett but he did a great job in 2016 getting this team together when Romo went down. I’m just saying in regards to development whether it’s Dak or Romo or Brees or Cam Newton or whoever I’d rather have Parcells/Payton then I would Garrett/Linehan.

 

[RonnieT24]

How did Romo only miss 15 games? Didn’t he miss more than that in just 2015 and 2016 alone? I don’t remember people calling him injury prone but I do remember things got so bad he had to be rested and get shots every week just to have his back right by Sunday. I think people had more issues with him choking then his injury history.

Romo missed a helluva lot more than 15 games.. He missed 3 games in 2008 with the bad hand. Remember the Brad Johnson debacle? He missed 10 games to the collar bone in 2010. He missed the season finale in 2013 with the ruptured disc in his back and then two more games in 2014 with the transverse process fracture in his back, followed by 11 more in 2015 again with the collar bone break and of course basically all of 2016 with another ruptured disc in the back. That's 42 games over his 9 years as the starter. People's desire to bend reality to their own warped view of it never ceases to amaze.

 

[Vtwin]

Parcels is on record to carefully developing Romo and how he handle him. The marathon continues….

BS

 

[America's Cowboy]

I can't understand posters like you that dog Romo in order to uplift the fraud. Romo was 10 times the QB Dak is or will ever be, and Romo did not accomplish anything. Think about that for awhile.

LMAO!!! What a joke! I can tear this fallacy up so bad in so many ways statistically.



I actually feel pity for fear of what such facts might do psychologically. Maybe I should refrain from stating such facts in order to protect from causing harm?

 

[RonnieT24]

BS

Yeah imagine a guy like Parcells saying "I am smarter than the rest o youse." Perish the thought!

 

[America's Cowboy]

@G2 you see what I mean? Now they are erasing Romo’s history now Payton and Parcells had nothing to do with his development. I guess it was Jerry…

They are doing the same thing now as they were doing in the old DC official boards of lying in order to cover up for their boy Romo.

 

[Vtwin]

That's my point. Was Romo the starter even for one full season under Parcels? I honestly don't remember.

Parcells finally put Romo in at halftime after Bledsoe couldn't get a pass off before being sacked. There were calls for Romo to start well before that, but Parcells was reluctant to make the change. Romo finished the season as the starter and Parcells left that offseason.

 

[Vtwin]

Yeah imagine a guy like Parcells saying "I am smarter than the rest o youse." Perish the thought!

You also think Parcells was working directly with Romo on the nuances of QB play?

lol

 

[RonnieT24]

Parcells finally put Romo in at halftime after Bledsoe couldn't get a pass off before being sacked. There were calls for Romo to start well before that, but Parcells was reluctant to make the change. Romo finished the season as the starter and Parcells left that offseason.

Yeah this is more of people building an alternate reality in their minds. Romo was kept on the bench mainly because of his penchant for turnovers and his (relatively) weak arm along with his ..er.. freelancing play style which drove Parcells nuts. Parcells put him in basically because at that point he had nothing to lose. For all the romanticized storyline about when Romo got in the Cowboys only went 6-4 once he was inserted and bowed out of the playoffs on Romo's mishandling of the snap in Seattle. I will give Romo credit for energizing the team and the fan base but it wasn't till the end of 2013 that I started to believe he could actually lead the team anywhere.

 

[RonnieT24]

You also think Parcells was working directly with Romo on the nuances of QB play?

lol

Oh obviously! Have you not seen Parcells' demonstrating footwork in the pocket? It was a sight to behold!

 

[Big_D]

Ok let's go there. Look below and tell how they are different. Yes, they had different coaches (Romo had Parcels/Wade Phillips and Dak had MM and they both suffered through Garrett) and schemes, and as I already mention different strengths and weaknesses but at the end of the day their careers are damn near identical in every category (and as Parcels once said you are what your record/stats say you are).

both have exactly 8 seasons with at least 8 games played

Regular Season Record:
Tony Romo: 78-49
Dak Prescott: 76-46

Regular Season Stats:

Post Season Record:
Tony Romo (4 appearances) 2-4
Dak Prescott (5 appearances) 2-5

Post Season Stats:

When comparing the teams they played on, you will see they have had similar talent surrounding them including talent on the OL and offensive skill positions:

Tony Romo's Team All-Pro /Prow-bowl/HOFers & Potential HOFers (OL bolded. Green is Romo's Pro bowl years):

Dak Prescott's Team All-Pro /Prow-bowl/HOFers & Potential HOFers (OL bolded. Green is Dak's Pro bowl years):

There's nothing remotely close about their Oline situations. Prescott has basically gotten first round talent in nearly every draft while Jerry used Romo's scrambling ability as an excuse not to draft any until he was in his 30s. Team building is exactly that, a year round exercise in improving the roster and the Cowboys did a terrible job of it after Parcells left until they actually started drafting linemen. That is a fact. That team in 2007 could've went places, but was already a mess by 2010 for this very reason.

 

[Vtwin]

Maybe Parcells is lying? Sean Payton is too? Romo just developed himself I guess?

Show us the Parcell's reference you are referring to. It doesn't exist. Just the thought of big Bill out there teaching Romo dropbacks, footwork techniques and throwing motions is laughable.

You might want to check the dates on just how much Romo and Payton overlapped in Dallas.

Talk about arguing just to argue! lol

 

[Vtwin]

But Parcells is on record to handling Romo with care. He wasn’t ready to start.

Now this is accurate. The fact that it has nothing to do with the actual development of the position itself is what is entirely lost on you.

 

[Vtwin]

Yeah this is more of people building an alternate reality in their minds. Romo was kept on the bench mainly because of his penchant for turnovers and his (relatively) weak arm along with his ..er.. freelancing play style which drove Parcells nuts. Parcells put him in basically because at that point he had nothing to lose. For all the romanticized storyline about when Romo got in the Cowboys only went 6-4 once he was inserted and bowed out of the playoffs on Romo's mishandling of the snap in Seattle. I will give Romo credit for energizing the team and the fan base but it wasn't till the end of 2013 that I started to believe he could actually lead the team anywhere.

Parcells liked "his guys" probably more than even Jerry. That's the reason Bledsoe was even here. Romo had no real "history" to lean on. Parcells, as he is known for, played it safe and went with the guy he had drafted and coached to a SB. This forum was screaming for Romo as much because it was so obvious Bledsoe was done as anything.

Nothing at all alternate about that.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Romo missed a helluva lot more than 15 games.. He missed 3 games in 2008 with the bad hand. Remember the Brad Johnson debacle? He missed 10 games to the collar bone in 2010. He missed the season finale in 2013 with the ruptured disc in his back and then two more games in 2014 with the transverse process fracture in his back, followed by 11 more in 2015 again with the collar bone break and of course basically all of 2016 with another ruptured disc in the back. That's 42 games over his 9 years as the starter. People's desire to bend reality to their own warped view of it never ceases to amaze.

That’s what I was thinking…how did he even come up with the number 15? I knew he did it because he’s that type of poster to lie and manipulate things to say what he wants but 42 to 15 is disgusting.