Dak is the best qb in the NFL right now

Daktozekecoop · Sep 19, 2019

HowardC said:
What's baseless about it? I watched the game. I wanted the deadskins to win. They **** the bed in the second half. "Non fan", huh? Eat a ****, dip****.

My comment was directed to previous posts from other people obviously. I don't know why you choose to make a negative comment about me?

HowardC · Sep 19, 2019

Daktozekecoop said:
My comment was directed to previous posts from other people obviously. I don't know why you choose to make a negative comment about me?

It seemed that your comment was attacking me, so...

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

Proof said:
just curious. do you watch the games? because your assertions and research lead me to believe you don't/haven't. Chiefs have become appointment tv for me after the boys, and no... he doesn't just launch hail mary's, he just happens to have a powerful arm, speedy receivers, and he stresses the defense enough all over the field that they get caught with their pants down a decent amount.

I've been watching playing training with players before you were born. So. Before you speculate anything about me lol make sure you know what you're talkin about

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

Proof said:
just curious. do you watch the games? because your assertions and research lead me to believe you don't/haven't. Chiefs have become appointment tv for me after the boys, and no... he doesn't just launch hail mary's, he just happens to have a powerful arm, speedy receivers, and he stresses the defense enough all over the field that they get caught with their pants down a decent amount.

But to get back to the question. How many sustained drives has he have more than eight or nine plays. Answer that question

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

Proof said:
again, can you provide any examples of this? because i haven't gotten that impression at all. I'm all for irrationally hating other players, it's a pleasure of mine, but mahomes genuinely comes across as extremely likeable, down to earth and relatively humble. I'm curious as to what you've seen to suggest otherwise

I guess I'm not the one that hasn't been watching. His facial expressions in the AFC Championship game last season alone. Through his receivers under the bus more than once

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

perrykemp said:
Mahomes threw for 7 TDs and 2 interceptions in those two games vs the Patriots. He didn't exactly suck.

Extroplate that out to a 16 game season and it's 56 TDs (an NFL record) and 16 INTs

You like the guy fine I think he's a crybaby insecure, overrated quarterback. And the Patriots proved it twice

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

perrykemp said:
Mahomes threw for 7 TDs and 2 interceptions in those two games vs the Patriots. He didn't exactly suck.

Extroplate that out to a 16 game season and it's 56 TDs (an NFL record) and 16 INTs

And what has that gotten him so far. He can take his records and his MVPs and put them where the sun doesn't shine.

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

PA Cowboy Fan said:
It might go to their head but they are great. The ones I have problems with are QB's like Mayfield that talk trash and don't even back it up.

I can name a few others but right now it was about Mahomes.

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

perrykemp said:
Mahomes threw for 7 TDs and 2 interceptions in those two games vs the Patriots. He didn't exactly suck.

Extroplate that out to a 16 game season and it's 56 TDs (an NFL record) and 16 INTs

He also took himself out of field-goal range when it mattered most. And lost the game against the Patriots. Show me what you got when the game was on the line clutch. Everything else is just numbers

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

HowardC said:
It seemed that your comment was attacking me, so...

I don't know what happened, but postgate cross-referenced all the time. Seven years posting on the Cowboys Forum he gets brutal sometimes. But I never take it seriously personally

Proof · Sep 19, 2019

Whirlwin said:
I've been watching playing training with players before you were born. So. Before you speculate anything about me lol make sure you know what you're talkin about

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

Proof said:
i'm not asking if you watch football in general, i was asking specifically if you watch chiefs games. it wasn't an attack. can you please reference just one instance of him throwing his teammates under the bus. specifically.

but here you go sir. game by game

2018 week 1 chargers

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018090908/2018/REG1/chiefs@chargers?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

two 11 play scoring drives in this game

2018 week 2 steelers

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018091605/2018/REG2/chiefs@steelers?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

no 8 + play scoring drives. longest was 7

2018 Week 3 49ers
https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018092305/2018/REG3/49ers@chiefs?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

5 8+ play scoring drives

2018 Week 4 Broncos

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018100100/2018/REG4/chiefs@broncos?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

All 5 scoring drives were 8+ plays and 3 were 12 play

2018 week 5 Jaguars

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018100705/2018/REG5/jaguars@chiefs?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

3 8+ play scoring drives

2018 week 6 Patriots

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018101412/2018/REG6/chiefs@patriots?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

3 8 + play scoring drives

2018 week 7 Bengals

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018102105/2018/REG7/bengals@chiefs?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

4 8 + play scoring drives

2018 Week 9 Browns

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018110403/2018/REG9/chiefs@browns?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

2 8+ play scoring drives

2018 Week 10 Cardinals

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018111105/2018/REG10/cardinals@chiefs?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

2 8+ play scoring drives

2018 Week 11 Rams

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018111900/2018/REG11/chiefs@rams?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

3 8+ play scoring drives

2018 Week 13 Raiders

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018120210/2018/REG13/chiefs@raiders?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

4 8+ play scoring drives

2018 week 14 Ravens

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018120905/2018/REG14/ravens@chiefs?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

All 5 Scoring drives were 8+ plays

2018 week 15 Chargers

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018121300/2018/REG15/chargers@chiefs?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

3 8 + play scoring drives

2018 week 16 Seahawks

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018122314/2018/REG16/chiefs@seahawks?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

4 8+ play scoring drives

2018 week 17 Raiders

https://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2018123004/2018/REG17/raiders@chiefs?icampaign=GC_schedule_rr

2 8+ play scoring drives

Thats all of 2018. hope that helps whatever point you're trying to make

I wasn't making a point. I was stating a fact. And the fact is I can't stand the little punk. I love that the Patriots destroy him with middle pressure. I love that he took himself out of field-goal range and put his team in Jeopardy of losing that game which they ended up doing. The great Mahomes choked

Proof · Sep 19, 2019

Whirlwin said:
I wasn't making a point. I was stating a fact. And the fact is I can't stand the little punk. I love that the Patriots destroy him with middle pressure. I love that he took himself out of field-goal range and put his team in Jeopardy of losing that game which they ended up doing. The great Mahomes choked

Gotcha. So you admit being a hater. I’m good with that, was just trying to see if there were legitimate reasons. Good deal

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

Proof said:
Gotcha. So you admit being a hater. I’m good with that, was just trying to see if there were legitimate reasons. Good deal

Yes I don't make up silly excuses why I don't like somebody I just come right out and say it. I've been a fan of this franchise since the first game they ever played. Overseas in the military all you could get was the Cowboys. How can you not love the star and what it represents. I don't hold grudges. And I take everything as an individual basis. I just don't like the kid that's not being a hater. I have good reason for it

Verdict · Sep 19, 2019

Dak is in the conversation as the best QBS in the league. We need to see if he can sustain this level, but it’s encouraging.

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

Proof said:
Gotcha. So you admit being a hater. I’m good with that, was just trying to see if there were legitimate reasons. Good deal

I know it's positive, and I know his negatives. I believe in culture of the locker room. I don't think he's a team player right now I believe he's an individual. That's not going to take him far in this league not as far as what camaraderie and his arm could do for him. I hope I'm wrong. Because he is a talent. You cannot deny that

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

Verdict said:
Dak is in the conversation as the best QBS in the league. We need to see if he can sustain this level, but it’s encouraging.

From his first preseason game against Seattle I've been on his bandwagon. When Sean Lee said who is this guy. I went through Brandon Weeden. 17 starting quarterbacks after Troy Aikman before Tony Romo. I know what the alternative can be. I've always said it's a scheme of what we do not what he can do. And that's coming true. Go Cowboys

CowboysFaninHouston · Sep 19, 2019

DandyDon52 said:
Something I have not seen talked about.
78.1 and 86.7 pass completion % in 1st 2 games avg is 82.4%

This is highest in NFL I think.
I checked a few like rodgers and brees ryan, and brady.
Tom had a 71 % in miami game.
Most avg in 60's or lower.
82% Pass completion ? is very unusual.
7 td's 1 int
QBR IS 140.9 AVG for 2 games.

People have said he cant carry the team, but he has for the last 2
games, due to kellen and better group of receivers.
here are the only others that come close.
Lamar Jackson 85.0 and 158.3 vs Miami-- 64.9 104.8 vs Arizona 7td avg 74.9 % 131.55 qbr
I left these out lol

Mahomes II 68.2 131.2 vs raiders-- 75.8 143.2 vs Jags - 72% 137.2 qbr 7td

Brady 71.4 124.7 vs Miami-- 66.7 124.9 vs Steelers - 69.05 % 124.8 qbr 5td's

Just a side note,

8 teams at 0-2 Miami needs to out lose the other 7 teams
9 are 2-0 5 in NFC Dallas should go 3-0 then maybe 4-0 will they be the last unbeaten team? only 4 others
besides Dallas in NFC. 3 are in the west Div, sea SF and rams, so they have to play each other so they
will have to lose soon.

About Miami I read a little on it, and they have very good reason to tank and finish last,
They traded away 2 of their best players for # 1 picks, they now have 3, and 2 in rd 2 , and 2 in rd 3.
It would be stupid to then go 8-8 and have middle of round picks, so best thing is to finish last
and then it is up to how wisely they use those picks.
The other thing is how to you get players to tank , or play badly?? some wont want to, it would be bad for their resume, and some wont like the idea. So it isnt easy to finish dead last.

Mahomes II 68.2 131.2 vs raiders-- 75.8 143.2 vs Jags - avg 72% 137.2 qbr 7td

Brady 71.4 124.7 vs Miami-- 66.7 124.9 vs Steelers - avg 69.05 % 124.8 qbr 5td's
(Rodgers doesnt even come close.)

So seems to me Dak is the best QB in NFL right now 2 games in to this season.

statistically perhaps...realistically, not really...but if that floats your boat, then more power to you

Proof · Sep 19, 2019

Whirlwin said:
Yes I don't make up silly excuses why I don't like somebody I just come right out and say it. I've been a fan of this franchise since the first game they ever played. Overseas in the military all you could get was the Cowboys. How can you not love the star and what it represents. I don't hold grudges. And I take everything as an individual basis. I just don't like the kid that's not being a hater. I have good reason for it

Yeah. I was just trying to figure out what the good reasons were or what prompted it in case I missed something. He’s made a fan of me mostly because of on top of his incredible play he seems really likeable and down to earth and just haven’t seen evidence of the stuff you referenced. All good though

Whirlwin · Sep 19, 2019

CowboysFaninHouston said:
statistically perhaps...realistically, not really...but if that floats your boat, then more power to you

You don't think Prescott a winner. You don't think he has a positive culture of the locker room. You don't think he's been nothing but brilliant in the 4th quarter. You don't think that dink-and-dunk was a process of the play-calling.

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