Dak - My Take, and Wince

[JJHLH1]

Dak inherited the most perfect situation a rookie ever has in the NFL.

Let's not go crazy. Dak inherited a 4-12 team that hasn't had any meaningful playoff success in 20 years. At the start of preseason when Romo was still healthy they were still only 17-1 to win the Super Bowl, hardly a juggernaught.

 

[erod]

Let's not go crazy. Dak inherited a 4-12 team that hasn't had any meaningful playoff success in 20 years. At the start of preseason when Romo was still healthy they were still only 17-1 to win the Super Bowl, hardly a juggernaught.

Those are stilted facts. Last year, there was no Zeke Elliott, no Dez Bryant (hurt), no real quarterback, and a schedule that was much harder than this year.

The year prior, this team went 12-4 and beat Seattle in Seattle the same year the Seahawks went to and should have won the Super Bowl.

Romo is 16-5 his last 21 starts here.

 

[JJHLH1]

Last year, there was no Zeke Elliott, no Dez Bryant (hurt), no real quarterback, and a schedule that was much harder than this year.

The year prior, this team went 12-4 and beat Seattle in Seattle the same year the Seahawks went to and should have won the Super Bowl.

I'm just saying that Dak didn't inherit the most perfect situation ever for a rookie in the NFL. The same offensive line, tight end, and receivers were on the team the year prior when they struggled. Dez and Tyron Smith missed games this year and the team found a way to win without them.

Big Ben inherited a much better situation when he was a rookie, which is why he won 13 games his rookie year and the Super Bowl in year 2.

 

[erod]

I'm just saying that Dak didn't inherit the most perfect situation ever for a rookie in the NFL. The same offensive line, tight end, and receivers were on the team the year prior when they struggled. Dez and Tyron Smith missed games this year and the team found a way to win without them.

Big Ben inherited a much better situation when he was a rookie, which is why he won 13 games his rookie year and the Super Bowl in year 2.

No, they weren't. Zeke wasn't here, Dez was hurt all year, and Leary was on the bench.

 

[JJHLH1]

No, they weren't. Zeke wasn't here, Dez was hurt all year, and Leary was on the bench.

Collins was the opening day starter this year over Leary so Dak inherited the same offensive line as I stated. You could argue that the line isn't as good without Collins this year, since he was the starter. Presumably the coaches thought he was the better player. And I don't recall Tyron Smith missing games last year but I could be wrong.

The team won all 3 games this year without Dez. A good quarterback gets it done no matter who his receivers are. Look at Brady, he makes average receivers look like world-beaters.

The only meaningful difference between last year and this year is Zeke, an obvious upgrade of course, but McFadden's yards per carry was pretty good last year. The running game was respectable.

 

[Dale]

None, and the one on the most talented offense in the NFL with the best offensive line, the best running back, a Hall of Fame tight end, and an outstanding group of receivers.

I'm not going to disagree that I think we have a great offensive cast. However, this is the same cast of receivers who, at the beginning of the season, warranted threads being posted here saying we might have THE WORST receiving corps in the division. Two months ago, there were threads about Dez being overrated and how he should be traded. We also played three games with a receiving trio that looked like Williams-Butler-Beasley.

And Witten is a Hall of Famer, but he's also a Hall of Famer who people here have been calling a shell of his former self for quite some time. In fact, there's a thread going right now asking how much longer he'll be around.

So, yes, the support system is amazing. But I think some of this stuff is being overstated.

Matt Ryan is working with arguably the best receiver in football and a Pro Bowl running back. Carr has what is regarded as the second or third best line in the league and one of the best receiving tandems. Big Ben has two All-Pro talents in Brown and Bell, to go along with a bevy of talented receivers.

I don't find it shocking that the QBs who are playing the best typically have high-quality talent surrounding them.

 

[ThreeandOut]

There is a calmness about Dak I don't see in rookies. That is what i am speaking of. Like he never thinks it is impossible to overcome.

I think this calmness is because the game has already slowed down for him, partially due to his circumstances. At Mississippi State he had to learn to play fast as he played against talented defenses with an OL that didn't give him much time to throw and receivers that couldn't separate. This year he's playing with a Cowboys OL that gives him plenty of time to throw with receivers who can get open. So even though he's at a higher level of competition now, the game probably doesn't feel faster to him.

 

[Dale]

No, they weren't. Zeke wasn't here, Dez was hurt all year, and Leary was on the bench.

How many games did Dez either miss or was affected by injury this year? There was a good month stretch there where we were sporting anything but a high-powered set of receivers.

 

[Chuck 54]

It's not just about one position; this team is on the best winning streak it's ever had in it's entire history.
The team chemistry and how the pieces fit, including the impact of time of possession and lack of turnovers with this defense, is critical.

Tony Romo will not replace Dak this year unless it's due to injury. It is highly unlikely that Tony ever gets to compete for the starting job in Dallas again. Who cares about comparing this year to 2014? It's apples and oranges; every year in the NFL your team is different for a myriad of reasons. This is the new team, and Tony will be looking for a new team in the off-season. "Fair's got nothin' to do with it." That's just the way it is.

 

[erod]

Collins was the opening day starter this year over Leary so Dak inherited the same offensive line as I stated. You could argue that the line isn't as good without Collins this year, since he was the starter. Presumably the coaches thought he was the better player. And I don't recall Tyron Smith missing games last year but I could be wrong.

The team won all 3 games this year without Dez. A good quarterback gets it done no matter who his receivers are. Look at Brady, he makes average receivers look like world-beaters.

The only meaningful difference between last year and this year is Zeke, an obvious upgrade of course, but McFadden's yards per carry was pretty good last year. The running game was respectable.

Last year's schedule was infinitely harder, and if you don't think Zeke/Dez is better than Randle/Butler, then I can't help you.

 

[erod]

How many games did Dez either miss or was affected by injury this year? There was a good month stretch there where we were sporting anything but a high-powered set of receivers.

True, but this is an inferior schedule compared to last year.

Dak is doing a great job. I just don't anoint him like others yet. He's in the perfect situation, and he's holding his own against a weak schedule.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

It's not just about one position; this team is on the best winning streak it's ever had in it's entire history.
The team chemistry and how the pieces fit, including the impact of time of possession and lack of turnovers with this defense, is critical.

Tony Romo will not replace Dak this year unless it's due to injury. It is highly unlikely that Tony ever gets to compete for the starting job in Dallas again. Who cares about comparing this year to 2014? It's apples and oranges; every year in the NFL your team is different for a myriad of reasons. This is the new team, and Tony will be looking for a new team in the off-season. "Fair's got nothin' to do with it." That's just the way it is.

Getting way ahead of yourself with dumb rhetoric like that. No one has proclaimed a 4th round, dink and dunk game manager the franchise quarterback forever and ever. Lot of games left before you even begin to go down that path. People always think their crystal balls work until reality bears down and they realize it was just a glass rock.

 

[Dale]

Getting way ahead of yourself with dumb rhetoric like that. No one has proclaimed a 4th round, dink and dunk game manager the franchise quarterback forever and ever. Lot of games left before you even begin to go down that path. People always think their crystal balls work until reality bears down and they realize it was just a glass rock.

It's funny a post commenting about someone's "dumb rhetoric" includes the phrase "dink and dunk game manager."

 

[Dale]

True, but this is an inferior schedule compared to last year.

Dak is doing a great job. I just don't anoint him like others yet. He's in the perfect situation, and he's holding his own against a weak schedule.

I absolutely agree it's too soon to anoint. I don't think TwoDeep is doing that; he's just stating some of the positive qualities he sees in Dak that he thinks sets him up for a chance to be successful.

Don't care who you are in this league, 12 games isn't enough to guarantee any kind of future. Even Zeke -- love the guy, but we haven't seen him run behind a line hindered by some injuries, so on and so forth.

 

[Clove]

4-12, enters Prescott now 11-1. Zeke is a big help, but DMac who only started 10 games with NO QB, did pretty good. That's why people were so mad we drafted Ezekiel Elliott in the 1st round. They were sold on Dmac. Prescott leading the league in QBR up on the great Tom Brady. He's got nearly 3k yards with 2 INTs as a rookie. A rookie.
The Dak haters forget, he's a rookie. A rookie with the best QBR is blitzing the league. Zeke is doing his thing as we all expected, but no way a 4th round rookie who took his sorry team to #1 in the world in College, could be leading us to 11-1. We may not win the Super Bowl this year, but it won't be because of Dak.

 

[Chuck 54]

Getting way ahead of yourself with dumb rhetoric like that. No one has proclaimed a 4th round, dink and dunk game manager the franchise quarterback forever and ever. Lot of games left before you even begin to go down that path. People always think their crystal balls work until reality bears down and they realize it was just a glass rock.

You're in denial. Romo knows it. Most of us know it. He's done in Dallas unless there's an injury down the final stretch

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Put a set of receivers around hiom and give him a bit of protection from the defensive rush and them tell me about Wentz.

That's not gonna fix his accuracy issues. His throws are all over the place. These same recievers didn't have these issues before he got there. Stop with the silly dumb excuses, Wentz had major accuracy problems and his mechanics are all messed up

 

[Super_Kazuya]

You're in denial. Romo knows it. Most of us know it. He's done in Dallas unless there's an injury down the final stretch

Like I said, you know nothing and you wouldn't bet a nickel of your own money on anything coming out of your mouth. You're all talk.

 

[Go Big D!]

It's a nickname he picked up here this weekend.

I don't think we voted on this because I would have given my vote to whoever it was that suggested wINTz

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I don't think last year's schedule was so much harder then this year. We have played some of the very best defense this year, not only that we played GB in GB, Pittsburgh at Heinz field. A tough 3 games in 19 days with a division opponent mixed in. This year is just as hard as last year so let's stop that nonsense