Dak needs weapons, but these weapons need Dak!

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

Im not joking when I say this. Dallas could trot out Lamb, Cupp and Davante Adams and get bounced in the first round with Dak at QB.

Lol

 

[CTcowboy203]

Brady won a couple of rings with really only have Gronk as a reliable 'go to' weapon.

Mahomes only had Kelce for a while there.. I remember when they had that stat about no Chief WR had a touch down in something like 20 games in a row? (not sure how long.. but it was a scary stat)

Rodgers got the packers to the playoffs several times with very few weapons.

AND then lets look at this BS myth that Dak doesn't have weapons... he has stood behind a line that has CONSISTENTLY been ranked in the top 5 his whole career. Dak has never, ever had to play without a top 5 ranked line.. let that sink in.

Next up.. Dak has always had (other than that little bit before we got cooper) at least 1 true Pro Bowl level WR target, often he has had 2-3 quality targets.
Dak has always had the support of at least 1 pro bowl level Running Back (and this year Pollard was a gun)

Dak has always been supported by quality TEs.. sure not superstars but not duds either.

So.. Dak this season had 'weapons' in a top 3 Oline, CeeDee at WR (plus gallop and later Hilton), Pollard (and Zeke for short yardage), Semi Decent TE's.. That is not a QB that is being asked to do it all himself. That is more weapons than a lot of other QBs get to work with. Cooper Rush was able to use these 'weapons' to win 4 games ffs.

Please stop with the BS narrative that Dak needs more weapons. He is a bad QB.. end of story.

Any scenario that involves comparing dak to tom brady, mahomes or Rodgers is just blasphemy. Those guys are all time greats. Generational hall of fame guys. That’s not dak

 

[cnuball21]

Brady won a couple of rings with really only have Gronk as a reliable 'go to' weapon.

Mahomes only had Kelce for a while there.. I remember when they had that stat about no Chief WR had a touch down in something like 20 games in a row? (not sure how long.. but it was a scary stat)

Rodgers got the packers to the playoffs several times with very few weapons.

AND then lets look at this BS myth that Dak doesn't have weapons... he has stood behind a line that has CONSISTENTLY been ranked in the top 5 his whole career. Dak has never, ever had to play without a top 5 ranked line.. let that sink in.

Next up.. Dak has always had (other than that little bit before we got cooper) at least 1 true Pro Bowl level WR target, often he has had 2-3 quality targets.
Dak has always had the support of at least 1 pro bowl level Running Back (and this year Pollard was a gun)

Dak has always been supported by quality TEs.. sure not superstars but not duds either.

So.. Dak this season had 'weapons' in a top 3 Oline, CeeDee at WR (plus gallop and later Hilton), Pollard (and Zeke for short yardage), Semi Decent TE's.. That is not a QB that is being asked to do it all himself. That is more weapons than a lot of other QBs get to work with. Cooper Rush was able to use these 'weapons' to win 4 games ffs.

Please stop with the BS narrative that Dak needs more weapons. He is a bad QB.. end of story.

Rodgers won his Super Bowl with Jennings, Jones, Driver and an up and coming Nelson. So that’s false. GB rolled the dice this year and trotted Rodgers out there without weapons and he was awful…like not in the top 15.

So the benchmark is Brady and Mahomes? Likely The 2 best of all time when it’s all said and done. No.

Last year the Cowboys OL was near the bottom of the barrel in pass pro win rate and Dak had 1 above average receiving option in Lamb. 1 starter WR option that had a positive EPA / play when targeted. Not gonna get it done. Coops last year was the closest roster we’ve had and the OL couldn’t stay healthy and completely broke down during the final stretch. Got whooped by the 49ers.

 

[Hoofbite]

Just for last year: Murray, Allen, Lamar, Burrow, Presscott, Rodgers, Stafford, Cousins, Lawrence, Herbert, Tua, Hurts, Brady, Mahomes, Goff, and that is 15 before even talking about whether Watson still has it or Fields is the guy, or Jones was a fluke or whether Brock Purdy was a blip or a trend, or if Wilson was just dealing with a terrible coaching situation. Regardless of anything else the league has a lot of talanted QBs and no matter how you choose to rank them there are clearly no shortage of them so what matters is what you surround them with.

There's only 14 playoff teams. How is it possible that a QB can get to Super Bowl level if they can't even get to the playoffs?

 

[cnuball21]

I don't think there are 15 Super Bowl level QBs. There aren't even 15 playoff teams. 15th in passing was Daniel Jones, and he is by no means a Super Bowl level QB. There are maybe 8 in any given year. What decides the rest is if their team is complimentary.

Maybe not, but if the Giants build a strong enough defense and the Giants get some weapons DJ could easily catch a eater and win a Super Bowl.

 

[Rockport]

Exactly how many weapons does Dak need to have success? Shouldn't GOOD QBs be able to take guys who may not be studs, and the turn them into something meaningful?

I hope we get Dak weapons to have deep success this season, but these weapons we get need Dak to be on point and not just say the right things. Please give your thoughts

 

[America's Cowboy]

What NFL QB is thriving without weapons?

They won't answer this because it destroys their anti-Dak narrative.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Any scenario that involves comparing dak to tom brady, mahomes or Rodgers is just blasphemy. Those guys are all time greats. Generational hall of fame guys. That’s not dak

What a joke.

Brady had more and better weapons than Dak this season. What happened in the playoffs wildcard game against Dak and the Cowboys?

Mahomes definitely has had many and better weapons, yet he and his team got beat after a 21-3 lead in the 2022 AFC Championship Game. What happened?

What happened to those greats being able to carry their teams to a Super Bowl, especially when they have had more and better weapons than Dak has had this season?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Exactly how many weapons does Dak need to have success? Shouldn't GOOD QBs be able to take guys who may not be studs, and the turn them into something meaningful?

I hope we get Dak weapons to have deep success this season, but these weapons we get need Dak to be on point and not just say the right things. Please give your thoughts

The only weapon you can get Dak for us to succeed in the playoffs is a true Franchise QB while Dak watches and gets his ring on the bench!!!

 

[jay94]

All QBs need weapons because there are about 15 Super Bowl level QBs, and if you don’t have one you need to get one, but once you have one the quest is which team gives them the most talent? After all , once you have one of those guys what you can surround them with is the difference maker.

If Rodgers needs weapons, Dak needs more.

 

[noshame]

A quarterback needs to be able to throw the ball if his first read has a step on the defender. Pro quarterbacks do that, if they're capable.
if they don't make the throw, they hold the ball and bad things happen.
that's why out of 50 college QBS, 2 might make it in the NFL.
It's great to have a accurate rocket arm but that's rare. However you can get by with accurate average arm and still thrive in the right system.
Given time in the pocket any QB can step into a throw and have success.

See Dak against weak defenses, like TB , then see Dak against good defenses like SF, or even Wash. Good defenses force QBS to make a high percentage of pressure throws, no time to set up, but you still need to be accurate .
Even the best OL is going to allow pressure a good percentage of time against a aggressive defense.

The bottom line:
You can have great receivers, but you still need accuracy under pressure.

 

[zerofill]

while Dak watches and gets his ring on the bench!!!

 

[Asklesko]

Weapons are only as effective as the soldier that wields them. The idea that Dak needs weapons to make him better is quite asinine.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Totally wrong approach. What a qb really need is blocking and a clean pocket. First and foremost.

Then every qb needs a weapon or two he can trust and makes plays.

The great oline play will also translate into a run game.

The problem is that when Dak goes from 10% to 20% of the CAP he's in effect taking money that could be paying on the weapons. It's then reasonable for Dak (not the weapons to step up).

Then again it all depends if you think the issue is with the Weapons or with Dak's capitulation when one (or more) of his Weapons arent working.

 

[Whyjerry]

For the Dak haters….

Do you think Dak is terrible or is he just not good enough?

Serious question.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Im not joking when I say this. Dallas could trot out Lamb, Cupp and Davante Adams and get bounced in the first round with Dak at QB.

Ive been saying this


Everyone thinks having Amari wouldve been the difference maker we needed to beat San Fran, but we still wouldve lost

 

[WillieBeamen]

For the Dak haters….

Do you think Dak is terrible or is he just not good enough?

Serious question.

Both


His bad games are some of the worst quarterbacking you will ever see (Washington, first TB game, SF)

He also isnt good enough to do what Hurts did in the Super Bowl. Tight window throw after tight window throw

 

[Whyjerry]

Just for last year: Murray, Allen, Lamar, Burrow, Presscott, Rodgers, Stafford, Cousins, Lawrence, Herbert, Tua, Hurts, Brady, Mahomes, Goff, and that is 15 before even talking about whether Watson still has it or Fields is the guy, or Jones was a fluke or whether Brock Purdy was a blip or a trend, or if Wilson was just dealing with a terrible coaching situation. Regardless of anything else the league has a lot of talanted QBs and no matter how you choose to rank them there are clearly no shortage of them so what matters is what you surround them with.

Murray a SB QB…that’s hysterical.

 

[Whyjerry]

Both


His bad games are some of the worst quarterbacking you will ever see (Washington, first TB game, SF)

He also isnt good enough to do what Hurts did in the Super Bowl. Tight window throw after tight window throw

It can’t be both. He is either a bad QB or a middling QB that might not have what it takes to win the big one.

Additionally what makes Dak different than any of the QBs post Aikman? Even Romo? The common denominator is the Jones family and the culture they create. It’s not just Dak’s fault. Even the Dak sucks crowd must see this. They can’t win because of Jerry and his slob son. Dallas is not serious about winning football. They are serious about marketing.

Cases in point…Jerry’s fascination with OBJ and Zeke. OBJ is clearly washed up and always a locker room headache. Yet Jerry is pushing for him. Why? It will sell tickets. Zeke will be an $11mm cap savings after June 1. Guy is washed up. Jerry is talking up contract renegotiation. Why? Cutting Zeke will be admitting a failure. Jerry won’t do that.

These are current examples of why Dallas is not a serious football team. Hence no QB, outside of MAYBE Mahomes, will win here.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

For the Dak haters….

Do you think Dak is terrible or is he just not good enough?

Serious question.

Seriously UNDERQUALIFIED for the job!