Dak needs weapons, but these weapons need Dak!

[Whyjerry]

Seriously UNDERQUALIFIED for the job!

So who’s replacing him? How do you get rid of him? Does this new QB win the SB?

 

[cnuball21]

They won't answer this because it destroys their anti-Dak narrative.

I’m still waiting…

 

[PAPPYDOG]

So who’s replacing him? How do you get rid of him? Does this new QB win the SB?

This is a tall order for the Hillbillies who own and manage our team but the only road is the following.
Admit you blew it with Prescott and bite the cap bullet and make him a Pre-June 1st,2024, cut.
Find cap thru moves like cutting Zeke and even LT Smith.
Draft a QB the higher the better.
Getting another QB thru the fa market as Dak will get worse and getting better is a fantasy tale for the feeble-minded.
Having this imposter of a QB holding us hostage because of his contract is just another low point of a franchise that has been irrelevant for the last 30 years.

 

[CTcowboy203]

What a joke.

Brady had more and better weapons than Dak this season. What happened in the playoffs wildcard game against Dak and the Cowboys?

Mahomes definitely has had many and better weapons, yet he and his team got beat after a 21-3 lead in the 2022 AFC Championship Game. What happened?

What happened to those greats being able to carry their teams to a Super Bowl, especially when they have had more and better weapons than Dak has had this season?

I’m not sure what the joke is…..Brady Rodgers and mahomes are team lifters. They make everyone around them better- they are guys who throughout their entire careers are contenders simply because they are on a team. All time great generational talents.

If you wanna look at a specific season like this year when Brady is 45 and somehow think that dak is on his level because he beat Brady while discounting the entire career of Brady, in particular the super bowls he won pre- 2007 when they won on limiting mistakes with high iq qb play and solid defense….have at it but you’d be being very silly.

Mahomes is in the afc championship game every year at minimum. He lost last year- sure, no quarterback is going to win it every year but He also lost to another elite quarterback. This year they got rid of all his weapons and put the team on his back win mvp and another super bowl.

Saying dak isn’t mahomes, Brady or Rodgers isn’t a knock on dak. It’s a testament to how great those other quartberacks are. Dak isn’t anywhere near those guys level. At all.

 

[Bullflop]

There's little doubt that we'll draft a promising WR in the upcoming draft or acquire a veteran with a proven record -- perhaps both.

This Cowboys' front office is certainly known for being enamored with Dak and isn't likely to go afoul of their commitment with him.

 

[cnuball21]

I’m not sure what the joke is…..Brady Rodgers and mahomes are team lifters. They make everyone around them better- they are guys who throughout their entire careers are contenders simply because they are on a team. All time great generational talents.

If you wanna look at a specific season like this year when Brady is 45 and somehow think that dak is on his level because he beat Brady while discounting the entire career of Brady, in particular the super bowls he won pre- 2007 when they won on limiting mistakes with high iq qb play and solid defense….have at it but you’d be being very silly.

Mahomes is in the afc championship game every year at minimum. He lost last year- sure, no quarterback is going to win it every year but He also lost to another elite quarterback. This year they got rid of all his weapons and put the team on his back win mvp and another super bowl.

Saying dak isn’t mahomes, Brady or Rodgers isn’t a knock on dak. It’s a testament to how great those other quartberacks are. Dak isn’t anywhere near those guys level. At all.

Last year was the first year the Packers didn’t put a solid roster out there and asked Rodgers to win regardless. He was awful and the Packers missed the playoffs.

 

[jazzcat22]

Dak needs to be carried, he doesn't have the ability to make lesser players better.

But we are told all the time we have lesser players, but here we are with back to back 12 win seasons (yes 4 wins from Rush), and playoff win everyone so desperately wanted.
So does this not qualify as Dak carrying the team?
I think that answer is yes .................. until we play SF.

 

[CTcowboy203]

Last year was the first year the Packers didn’t put a solid roster out there and asked Rodgers to win regardless. He was awful and the Packers missed the playoffs.

He’s also 38 years old and coming off mvp seasons…..if you wanna use the exceptions not the rule by all means go for It. I’ll use the over decade of excellence as my example.

This is a ridiculous argument. I’ve defended dak against tons of criticism as I feel he gets way too much but please don’t put him in the same breathe as those 3 guys. For a month ? Sure. For a few week stretches? Ok. Never ever can he do it consistently like those guys.

 

[foofighters]

Totally wrong approach. What a qb really need is blocking and a clean pocket. First and foremost.

Then every qb needs a weapon or two he can trust and makes plays.

The great oline play will also translate into a run game.

I'll go one set further...

If we are going to use two backs. We need to use them correctly. Too many times, Zeke was in and hampered our ability to move the ball. Zeke is great in short yardage situations but I do not like him touching the ball when it's 1st and 10. That leaves us 2nd and 8. Where Pollard gets us a few more yards.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The problem is that when Dak goes from 10% to 20% of the CAP he's in effect taking money that could be paying on the weapons. It's then reasonable for Dak (not the weapons to step up).

Then again it all depends if you think the issue is with the Weapons or with Dak's capitulation when one (or more) of his Weapons arent working.

When you have a qb making 40-50 million you can’t do dumb things like pay 19 million for your over the hill rb or any running back. It gives you less room for error on salary mistakes. Also can’t be paying a WR 22 million for 1000 yards and 6-8 tds or pay a LT 13 million to play half a season. Must move on.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'll go one set further...

If we are going to use two backs. We need to use them correctly. Too many times, Zeke was in and hampered our ability to move the ball. Zeke is great in short yardage situations but I do not like him touching the ball when it's 1st and 10. That leaves us 2nd and 8. Where Pollard gets us a few more yards.

Personally I don’t even like zeke in short yardage. Need a guy that can bounce outside or break a long run in that situation. Not just pick up a yard. Emmitt used to get many big plays on 3rd and short.

 

[cnuball21]

He’s also 38 years old and coming off mvp seasons…..if you wanna use the exceptions not the rule by all means go for It. I’ll use the over decade of excellence as my example.

This is a ridiculous argument. I’ve defended dak against tons of criticism as I feel he gets way too much but please don’t put him in the same breathe as those 3 guys. For a month ? Sure. For a few week stretches? Ok. Never ever can he do it consistently like those guys.

Correct. Rodgers won an MVP the year before when he had an all pro WR and another veteran option in MVS. He lost both, the Packers asked him to carry the team by himself which was stupid and he couldn’t. He was below average last season.

This example literally proves the point that great QBs can’t do it alone. I’m not sure why you’re arguing? It has nothing to do with comparing Rodgers to Dak. It’s QBs in general.

 

[Whyjerry]

This is a tall order for the Hillbillies who own and manage our team but the only road is the following.
Admit you blew it with Prescott and bite the cap bullet and make him a Pre-June 1st,2024, cut.
Find cap thru moves like cutting Zeke and even LT Smith.
Draft a QB the higher the better.
Getting another QB thru the fa market as Dak will get worse and getting better is a fantasy tale for the feeble-minded.
Having this imposter of a QB holding us hostage because of his contract is just another low point of a franchise that has been irrelevant for the last 30 years.

So you want to cut off your nose to spite your face, cut Dak, and miss the playoffs for the next few seasons?

Dak might not be the answer but I would much rather they think about him as a bridge for the remainder of his deal. That is unless someone will take him. The stars need to align for that. If Baltimore, for example, would lose Jackson in camp perhaps you could coax a trade to a contender that can’t tank a season. That might be too sophisticated for Jerry and his slob son to pull off. Aside from that they are stuck with Dak. Better to cut Zeke and spend the cap dollars to fortify the defensive front and get a veteran WR to go for another couple playoff runs. At the same time draft QBs in the next 2 drafts and try to develop them. I am not opposed to using a high pick either. I think McKee can be had late 1st round and there are a few guys worth trying in rounds 3-4. BTW Dak’s contract already looks better. Imagine having to pay Watson or Murray those deals?

Dak is limited but the OVERWHELMING reason they can’t win is the Jones clan. Blaming everything on Dak makes you look like a fool. Romo had 2 whole playoff wins during his career because of this carnival act of a franchise.

 

[Whyjerry]

There's little doubt that we'll draft a promising WR in the upcoming draft or acquire a veteran with a proven record -- perhaps both.

This Cowboys' front office is certainly known for being enamored with Dak and isn't likely to go afoul of their commitment with him.

Just not OBJ.

 

[CTcowboy203]

Correct. Rodgers won an MVP the year before when he had an all pro WR and another veteran option in MVS. He lost both, the Packers asked him to carry the team by himself which was stupid and he couldn’t. He was below average last season.

This example literally proves the point that great QBs can’t do it alone. I’m not sure why you’re arguing? It has nothing to do with comparing Rodgers to Dak. It’s QBs in general.

that’s ridiculous. Go look at the receivers that Leave Green Bay and never do anything again. Cobb, Nelson, Jennings, James jones.

Over the course of his career he has elevated teams multiple multiple times. Same with Brady and same with mahomes. Having Rodgers on your team means 10 wins and the playoffs for majority of his career just because you have him.

Sure, at 38 he can’t do it at as high as a level as he once did- that’s not really a knock on him. We literally just watched a great quarterback do it on his own this year.

Is it much harder? Absolutely. There’s no question about it but these 3 guys have shown over their career just having them on your team makes you a contender.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

So you want to cut off your nose to spite your face, cut Dak, and miss the playoffs for the next few seasons?

Dak might not be the answer but I would much rather they think about him as a bridge for the remainder of his deal. That is unless someone will take him. The stars need to align for that. If Baltimore, for example, would lose Jackson in camp perhaps you could coax a trade to a contender that can’t tank a season. That might be too sophisticated for Jerry and his slob son to pull off. Aside from that they are stuck with Dak. Better to cut Zeke and spend the cap dollars to fortify the defensive front and get a veteran WR to go for another couple playoff runs. At the same time draft QBs in the next 2 drafts and try to develop them. I am not opposed to using a high pick either. I think McKee can be had late 1st round and there are a few guys worth trying in rounds 3-4. BTW Dak’s contract already looks better. Imagine having to pay Watson or Murray those deals?

Dak is limited but the OVERWHELMING reason they can’t win is the Jones clan. Blaming everything on Dak makes you look like a fool. Romo had 2 whole playoff wins during his career because of this carnival act of a franchise.

The only foolish thing I did was respond to a Dak-Zoid.
I won't insult you as I refuse to fall to your low level of existence.

 

[cnuball21]

that’s ridiculous. Go look at the receivers that Leave Green Bay and never do anything again. Cobb, Nelson, Jennings, James jones.

Over the course of his career he has elevated teams multiple multiple times. Same with Brady and same with mahomes. Having Rodgers on your team means 10 wins and the playoffs for majority of his career just because you have him.

Sure, at 38 he can’t do it at as high as a level as he once did- that’s not really a knock on him. We literally just watched a great quarterback do it on his own this year.

Is it much harder? Absolutely. There’s no question about it but these 3 guys have shown over their career just having them on your team makes you a contender.

The year they won the SB with Rodgers they had Jennings (went to multiple pro bowls) and an up and coming Nelson (became an all pro).

Last year he had an up and coming rookie WR and a bunch of Jags. Arguably worst season of his career and no playoffs.

This has nothing to do with if you like or dislike Dak…this holds true for just about every QB out there that isn’t an alien (Brady / Mahomes).

 

[Shane612]

What NFL QB is thriving without weapons?

On the other hand, maybe average players become weapons because their QB knows how to utilize them.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds058]

The only weapon you can get Dak for us to succeed in the playoffs is a true Franchise QB while Dak watches and gets his ring on the bench!!!

LOL, this is Rick Flair the Man!!!!!

 

[CTcowboy203]

The year they won the SB with Rodgers they had Jennings (went to multiple pro bowls) and an up and coming Nelson (became an all pro).

Last year he had an up and coming rookie WR and a bunch of Jags. Arguably worst season of his career and no playoffs.

This has nothing to do with if you like or dislike Dak…this holds true for just about every QB out there that isn’t an alien (Brady / Mahomes).

You realize this started because I responded to a different poster who referenced mahomes, Brady and Rodgers in the same breath as dak right?

Saying that those 3 guys didn’t have nearly the weapons that dak did? Those guys are unfair comparisons to dak.

Sure, quarterbacks need help but those 3 guys are ceiling raisers just by merely having them on the team. They guarantee you 10 wins, contender status and a playoff birth for the overwhelmingly large % of their career.

You keep going back to last year with Rodgers - again he’s 38 and on the down slope of his career.