Dak Prescott is better than Derek Carr and it’s not even close

[jday]

Read all: https://www.fieldgulls.com/2017/7/2...ders-cowboys-qbr-stats-season-outlook-preview


A recent ESPN Insider article by their illustrious panel of experts ranked the 32 teams in terms of which NFL franchises are in the best shape for the next three seasons. One of the categories was quarterback, with teams ranked #1-32 based on their QB situation for the next three seasons. It was no surprise that Aaron Rodgers ranked #1, but following behind him at #2 was Derek Carr. That’s right: these experts would rather have Carr for the next three years than players like Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, Andrew Luck, Ben Roethlisberger, and the last two MVP winners, Matt Ryan and Cam Newton. However, I’d argue that none of these is the craziest omission, which is the inexplicable choice of Derek Carr over Dak Prescott.

Disclaimers

• Why is this on a Seahawks website? (a) Because all of the bad arguments that were used against Wilson early in his career (e.g., he only looks good because of his teammates, he’s only efficient because he throws at low volume, the plays he creates with his legs outside of the pocket don’t count) that have proven to be bad arguments as Wilson has maintained a high level for five seasons are now being applied to Prescott; and (b) Derek Carr is lame.
• This might look silly in a year if Carr improves as much as he did between 2015 and 2016.

The Statistics
The film comes later in this piece, but before anyone accuses me of cherry-picking individual plays, statistics measure the result of every play of the season. In Derek Carr’s three seasons, he has never played better than in 2016, and Prescott’s 2016 rookie season was substantially more efficient than Carr’s 2016 (and no, it is not easier to be more efficient when throwing at a lower volume):

 

[NotForLong]

Read all: https://www.fieldgulls.com/2017/7/2...ders-cowboys-qbr-stats-season-outlook-preview


A recent ESPN Insider article by their illustrious panel of experts ranked the 32 teams in terms of which NFL franchises are in the best shape for the next three seasons. One of the categories was quarterback, with teams ranked #1-32 based on their QB situation for the next three seasons. It was no surprise that Aaron Rodgers ranked #1, but following behind him at #2 was Derek Carr. That’s right: these experts would rather have Carr for the next three years than players like Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, Andrew Luck, Ben Roethlisberger, and the last two MVP winners, Matt Ryan and Cam Newton. However, I’d argue that none of these is the craziest omission, which is the inexplicable choice of Derek Carr over Dak Prescott.

Disclaimers

• Why is this on a Seahawks website? (a) Because all of the bad arguments that were used against Wilson early in his career (e.g., he only looks good because of his teammates, he’s only efficient because he throws at low volume, the plays he creates with his legs outside of the pocket don’t count) that have proven to be bad arguments as Wilson has maintained a high level for five seasons are now being applied to Prescott; and (b) Derek Carr is lame.
• This might look silly in a year if Carr improves as much as he did between 2015 and 2016.

The Statistics
The film comes later in this piece, but before anyone accuses me of cherry-picking individual plays, statistics measure the result of every play of the season. In Derek Carr’s three seasons, he has never played better than in 2016, and Prescott’s 2016 rookie season was substantially more efficient than Carr’s 2016 (and no, it is not easier to be more efficient when throwing at a lower volume):

Me too Carr is awsome.

 

[DFWJC]

Unless the OP actually believes this completely....

Headline should read
"Fieldgulls.com (or Ben Baldwin) claims Dak Prescott is better than Derek Carr and it's not even close"

 

[mattjames2010]

LOL

 

[pugilist]

lmao so many salty seacuck fans in the comments

 

[jday]

Unless the OP actually believes this completely....

Headline should read
"Fieldgulls.com (or Ben Baldwin) claims Dak Prescott is better than Derek Carr and it's not even close"

Honestly, I could care less if he's better than Carr or not. If I had to choose between the two, I'd choose Dak, but aside from the reasons stated in the article, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so...what I think means little.

As for my reasons for contributing this, I thought it offered good info and accompanying tape. Compared to suspension projections, and other non-football related news, I thought this might be a welcome respite.

 

[Trouty]

Dak isn't better than Carr, yet.

IMO, Carr is, now, a top 3-5 QB and will be a shoe-in for top-3 QB in a year or two.

Dak is on his way, but he needs a couple more seasons like the last one before we (or that author) make these sort of claims.

Go easy on me, PJ

 

[jday]

Dak isn't better than Carr, yet.

IMO, Carr is, now, a top 3-5 QB and will be a shoe-in for top-3 QB in a year or two.

Dak is on his way, but he needs a couple more seasons like the last one before we (or that author) make these sort of claims.

Go easy on me, PJ

Just for clarification, Trouty, this is not a reflection of my beliefs but more or less an attempt to discuss anything football related. Like you, I agree it's a bit premature to say one way or another with only one season under Dak's belt. But should Dak duplicate last years success, I'd say we might have a pretty good debate on our hands...

 

[Trouty]

Just for clarification, Trouty, this is not a reflection of my beliefs but more or less an attempt to discuss anything football related. Like you, I agree it's a bit premature to say one way or another with only one season under Dak's belt. But should Dak duplicate last years success, I'd say we might have a pretty good debate on our hands...

Absolutely, J. That why I said "author" and not "J"

If he duplicates last year's success, we most certainly have a debate on our hands. And I think he will. I believe it in my every being, J

Still, to be fair to the Carr's of the NFL, we should probably wait till it happens before we make such proclamations

 

[jday]

Absolutely, J. That why I said "author" and not "J"

If he duplicates last year's success, we most certainly have a debate on our hands. And I think he will. I believe it my every being, J

Still, to be fair to the Carr's of the NFL, we should probably wait till it happens before we make such proclamations

No doubt.

 

[Nav22]

Always entertaining to read the nonsensical reasons people have for underrating the Cowboys QB. "But he has good players around him!"

Same exact thing happened to a young Tony Romo. Their superior stats are marginalized any way they can be.

Dak put up better numbers than Derek Carr, as a ROOKIE no less, so of COURSE we have to pretend Carr's better anyways!! Because Carr TOTALLY didn't have a stud OL and great weapons like Dak did!! (pssst.. he did)

History really does repeat itself.

 

[erod]

I would trade Dak for Carr in a split second.

I'd throw in a nice player to boot.

Please.

 

[DFWJC]

Honestly, I could care less if he's better than Carr or not. If I had to choose between the two, I'd choose Dak, but aside from the reasons stated in the article, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so...what I think means little.

As for my reasons for contributing this, I thought it offered good info and accompanying tape. Compared to suspension projections, and other non-football related news, I thought this might be a welcome respite.

Fair enough, jd

 

[Plumfool]

Interesting article. Especially coming from a non Cowboy site.

 

[jday]

Interesting article. Especially coming from a non Cowboy site.

I think that might be the aspect of it I like the most. When reading at BTB, you really have to take much of what they say with a grain of salt; some of the authors (albeit not all) have a tendency to be a little too homerish. But when you read something like this from a sister-site, it tends to mean a little more because they are clearly biased against the Cowboys if anything.

 

[jday]

I would trade Dak for Carr in a split second.

I'd throw in a nice player to boot.

Please.

I just don't see it, erod. Why would you trade for a statue in the pocket and two years older. Dak may or may not be better than Derek now, but once Dak is 3 years into his career as was Derek last season, there is an excellent chance that Dak will have surpassed Derek in terms of overall ability. Why would you risk throwing a potential future Super Star away?

To be clear, though, if I was the Raiders, I'm not sure I'd entertain a trade in the other direction. There's reason why you never see trades like this. It makes absolutely no sense for either franchise to entertain such a nonsensical idea.

 

[Plumfool]

I think that might be the aspect of it I like the most. When reading at BTB, you really have to take much of what they say with a grain of salt; some of the authors (albeit not all) have a tendency to be a little too homerish. But when you read something like this from a sister-site, it tends to mean a little more because they are clearly biased against the Cowboys if anything.

And Seagulls fans are very protective of RW. So although you can sense the writers disdain for Carr, by comparing Dak to RW it shows his respect for the Cowboy QB.

 

[erod]

I just don't see it, erod. Why would you trade for a statue in the pocket and two years older. Dak may or may not be better than Derek now, but once Dak is 3 years into his career as was Derek last season, there is an excellent chance that Dak will have surpassed Derek in terms of overall ability. Why would you risk throwing a potential future Super Star away?

To be clear, though, if I was the Raiders, I'm not sure I'd entertain a trade in the other direction. There's reason why you never see trades like this. It makes absolutely no sense for either franchise to entertain such a nonsensical idea.

Brady is a statue in the pocket. So was Peyton, Aikman, and virtually every QB who ever won championships. Mobility is so overrated. Pocket presence is vastly more important.

Make no mistake, the Cowboys would run through a gauntlet of fire and grenades to make that deal.

Dak played smart football with terrific poise. He did not make the kind of throws on a regular basis that Carr does. Maybe he will, but he's got eons to go.

 

[jday]

Make no mistake, the Cowboys would run through a gauntlet of fire and grenades to make that deal.

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I have a lot of respect for you erod, but I am afraid that specific suggestion would be met with a cacophony of laughter were it introduced to the front office. There is absolutely no way in a million years the Cowboys would entertain that idea. Dak is untouchable and untradable. Pure and simple, the Jones' have finally found their guy and there is absolutely no way they would trade Dak for any player available in the league...period. If you disagree, you are welcome to it, but you are 100% wrong on this one.

 

[erod]

I have a lot of respect for you erod, but I am afraid that specific suggestion would be met with a cacophony of laughter were it introduced to the front office. There is absolutely no way in a million years the Cowboys would entertain that idea. Dak is untouchable and untradable. Pure and simple, the Jones' have finally found their guy and there is absolutely no way they would trade Dak for any player available in the league...period. If you disagree, you are welcome to it, but you are 100% wrong on this one.

I would bet everything I own on it.

Derek Carr is the next great NFL quarterback. It's up to the Raiders to not screw it up, which is difficult for that knucklehead franchise.

I've seen a ton of Dak Prescotts have promising rookie years. He's still potential. Carr is far more polished at this point. He makes far more difficult throws on a regular basis.

Certainty doesn't mean you can't win with Dak, but not without being a run-first offense at this point.

We'll know what Dak is by 2020.