Dak Prescott unappreciation thread

[LACowboysFan1]

it was the whole freaking team that was a dud....this is one of the absolute worst rosters in the NFL.

On point 1 I fully agree with you. NO running game, little pass rush, Dak was off (so was Rush so I seriously doubt any qb in the league would have done a lot better, certainly not enough better to win the game), secondary couldn't cover anybody, our receivers seldom got open, offensive line couldn't block very well, defensive line couldn't get stops and the rest of the defense (I'll give props to Wilson and Overshown, they did show up for this game) couldn't tackle.

But on point 2 I would disagree somewhat. Have to remember the defense was missing FOUR, count 'em, FOUR defensive starters in Parsons, Lawrence, Kendricks and Bland, as well as backup DEs in Kneeland and Williams. Essentially half of the defensive was on the bench. With those 6 guys on the field, I would submit it'd have at least been a close game, though when a team like Detroit has smoke coming out of their ears and blood in their eyes, few teams would have beaten them. Detroit was still po'd about the game last year, (which I understand to a point, but Dallas didn't cause the refs to miss the Detroit lineman reporting as eligible (if that was actually what happened) so their anger was a bit misplaced, but whatever the reason the Lions were highly fired up.

Of course, no team can keep up that level of enthusiasm for 17+ games, so we'll see what happens to Detroit next week when they have to face the 5-0 Vikings with no revenge motive to play with. Just refer to the Saints, bludgeoned Dallas big time then promptly lost their next 4 games. It's still true, teams just love to beat out Cowboys, not realizing you don't play to beat Dallas, you play to win the SB. Blow all your emotion beating Dallas and it's tough to get up for other opponents.

But I digress.

The offense has some talent, but Guyton and Beebe haven't got experience, which is very important to o-line play. The running backs are the biggest stumbling block to offensive success, I would definitely agree that in that regard they are the worst in the NFL. Overall, the tight ends are also poor, Ferguson is about all they have that's any good. Add to that Steele, Bass, etc. who aren't very good and yep, the offense is pretty bereft of talent.

And before anyone brings it up, notice I didn't include Dak in the "no talent" list. He has talent, just not enough in certain places, like field view and defensive formation recognition. But he's had good games and good play enough to be able to tell he has talent, though like I said not enough.

Dallas certainly needs more talent. No question about that. The failure to draft or sign a good running back was a tremendous mistake, that's a huge part of Dallas' problem.

But the worst in the league? Can't go that far, respectfully....

 

[America's Cowboy]

If Reality says I ruin the site he can ban me, otherwise, shut it! This site is not yours. Go find another team.

Go find another team? You're the one constantly bashing and complaining. YOU GO FOLLOW ANOTHER TEAM.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

heard Rockport took his 375 Magnum and is headed to Jerry's office??????

I wouldn't mind him telling Jerry to find another team

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

If Reality says I ruin the site he can ban me, otherwise, shut it! This site is not yours. Go find another team.

The likes of AC telling others THEY are ruining this site? Not laughable it's sadly pathetic.

 

[5Stars]

The likes of AC telling others THEY are ruining this site? Not laughable it's sadly pathetic.

AC is just here to start arguments. If others would stop replying to the nonsense, it will go away and find someone else to start an argument. Yeah, sad is right and no shame is worse.

 

[BoysForLife]

The likes of AC telling others THEY are ruining this site? Not laughable it's sadly pathetic.

Seriously. It's like Joy Behar telling somebody they need to eat better and exercise more

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Watching Diggs is the worst. That guy has zero effort.

Diggs' game is being able to take risks on pass coverage, when the Dallas defense is getting pressure on opposing quarterbacks, he's great.

But he's not a shutdown cornerback (though those are scarce as hen's teeth, the Renfros, Deions, Greens, etc. are rare), if receivers have time to run long or complex routes, with little to no pressure on the quarterback, he's nothing special...

Sorry to say, but Diggs, Parsons, Martin, Ferguson, et al are, if they don't leave after their first contract, are doomed to be another in the long line of players who will waste their career in Jerrytown like Witten, Tyron Smith, etc.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

On point 1 I fully agree with you. NO running game, little pass rush, Dak was off (so was Rush so I seriously doubt any qb in the league would have done a lot better, certainly not enough better to win the game), secondary couldn't cover anybody, our receivers seldom got open, offensive line couldn't block very well, defensive line couldn't get stops and the rest of the defense (I'll give props to Wilson and Overshown, they did show up for this game) couldn't tackle.

But on point 2 I would disagree somewhat. Have to remember the defense was missing FOUR, count 'em, FOUR defensive starters in Parsons, Lawrence, Kendricks and Bland, as well as backup DEs in Kneeland and Williams. Essentially half of the defensive was on the bench. With those 6 guys on the field, I would submit it'd have at least been a close game, though when a team like Detroit has smoke coming out of their ears and blood in their eyes, few teams would have beaten them. Detroit was still po'd about the game last year, (which I understand to a point, but Dallas didn't cause the refs to miss the Detroit lineman reporting as eligible (if that was actually what happened) so their anger was a bit misplaced, but whatever the reason the Lions were highly fired up.

Of course, no team can keep up that level of enthusiasm for 17+ games, so we'll see what happens to Detroit next week when they have to face the 5-0 Vikings with no revenge motive to play with. Just refer to the Saints, bludgeoned Dallas big time then promptly lost their next 4 games. It's still true, teams just love to beat out Cowboys, not realizing you don't play to beat Dallas, you play to win the SB. Blow all your emotion beating Dallas and it's tough to get up for other opponents.

But I digress.

The offense has some talent, but Guyton and Beebe haven't got experience, which is very important to o-line play. The running backs are the biggest stumbling block to offensive success, I would definitely agree that in that regard they are the worst in the NFL. Overall, the tight ends are also poor, Ferguson is about all they have that's any good. Add to that Steele, Bass, etc. who aren't very good and yep, the offense is pretty bereft of talent.

And before anyone brings it up, notice I didn't include Dak in the "no talent" list. He has talent, just not enough in certain places, like field view and defensive formation recognition. But he's had good games and good play enough to be able to tell he has talent, though like I said not enough.

Dallas certainly needs more talent. No question about that. The failure to draft or sign a good running back was a tremendous mistake, that's a huge part of Dallas' problem.

But the worst in the league? Can't go that far, respectfully....

this was a very nice and thoughtful response. hardly see any of these type of responses these days any more, so highly appreciate it.

however, keep in mind that against NO we had almost everyone but Bland and Williams (a back up) and we got torched. against Ravens we had similar results.

so not sure even if with those guys it would have made much of a difference. better. yes. but not much. the scheme and personnel don't match. the issue starts on the DL and its the weakest link. we had the starters at DT getting pushed 5 yards down field almost every running play. they didn't generate any push up the middle. this was no different against the saints or ravens.

and the biggest concern, with our without all those players is that our opponents are scoring and keeping drives alive at an alarming rate. even Giants didn't punt until end of 3rd quarter. they just didn't convert any of the field goals to TDs.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

this was a very nice and thoughtful response. hardly see any of these type of responses these days any more, so highly appreciate it.

however, keep in mind that against NO we had almost everyone but Bland and Williams (a back up) and we got torched. against Ravens we had similar results.

so not sure even if with those guys it would have made much of a difference. better. yes. but not much. the scheme and personnel don't match. the issue starts on the DL and its the weakest link. we had the starters at DT getting pushed 5 yards down field almost every running play. they didn't generate any push up the middle. this was no different against the saints or ravens.

and the biggest concern, with our without all those players is that our opponents are scoring and keeping drives alive at an alarming rate. even Giants didn't punt until end of 3rd quarter. they just didn't convert any of the field goals to TDs.

Good post.

But I'm putting probably 75% of the blame on the coaches. We heard MM saying at halftime the players were "half a step slow" and "have to match Detroit's intensity".

Hey Mike, THAT'S YOUR JOB. Get the team ready for your upcoming opponent.

Figuring out defensive schemes to keep offenses guessing? Hey Zim, THAT'S YOUR JOB.

Hiring retread, over the hill coaches has hurt this team as much as any player decisions.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Good post.

But I'm putting probably 75% of the blame on the coaches. We heard MM saying at halftime the players were "half a step slow" and "have to match Detroit's intensity".

Hey Mike, THAT'S YOUR JOB. Get the team ready for your upcoming opponent.

Figuring out defensive schemes to keep offenses guessing? Hey Zim, THAT'S YOUR JOB.

Hiring retread, over the hill coaches has hurt this team as much as any player decisions.

exactly, coaches are a lot to blame..

even on that first interception. Dak shouldn't have thrown it. no doubt. but also play design was bad. you are in a 3rd down situation with about 5 yards to go on the 7. Tolbert ran a route that was around the 5,6 yard line. the defender feeling that even if he catches it, he has a chance, dropped off, kind of watching Dak and watching Tolbert. once he saw Dak's eyes and throw going to CD, he dropped in the endzone and easy interception. tolbert's route should have been closer to first down or endzone, forcing the defender to stay with him and not drop off.....then CD had his man beat....its the little things like that that get on my nerves. attention to detail by coaches and players.

unfortunatley seeing where we are headed this year. probably people stop coming to the games. Jerry has to make a spalsh with a couple of big names, to generate buzz and hope. the big name is Bilicheck and probably one big name FA.

I don't think that's enough.

 

[irishline]

He was bad but not as bad as the defense. Stick with your agenda and continue to focus on him and ignore the defense.

That defense was left out to dry in the late 1st quarter for the rest of the first half. After Dak threw that interception in the end zone with 4:34 seconds left in the first, the defense was on the field for all but 4:06 the rest of the half (4:06 vs. 15:28 for the Lions). And we dedicate 50% more cap space to that offense than the defense, so it should never be that way.

Why? Because the offense had the ball for 14 plays on 4 drives that netted a total of -1 yard. 2 three and outs, 1 turnover on downs, and 1 FG because of a 79-yard kickoff return. That defense was utterly gassed. Did they play bad? Sure? Did the offense do anything to help them rest? No. The longest the offense had the ball was 1:22.

Think of it. When the game was in doubt the offense had -1 yard total with a TOP of 4:06 minutes on 4 drives over 19:34 to end the half. The offense honestly was just as bad, if not worse than the defense (and the offense wasn't missing nearly as many players). Dak, by the way, during those 20 minutes was 3 for 8 for 17 yards, with 9 of that being on the last drive before the half after the kickoff return.

The fact that the offense was really that bad is not an agenda, its an easily verifiable fact. If the offense was able to hold the ball long enough to keep TOP at 50% during those 20 minutes, and put together one scoring drive, the difference could have been 20-13 at the half instead of 27-6.

 

[OGSixshooter]

I've always tried to stay in the middle with Dak.

I think I may have finally totally moved to the Dak is not a good QB side.

There is no middle ground left for Dak. It's year 9. NINE...and he still throws PERFECT INTS. Again...it's uncanny how interceptable his passes are. Almost like they were intended for the other team. And it's always funny how smart Dak thinks he is vs. how he is fooled on those plays.

 

[HabsCowboysOwn]

Awww rough day for the girls today, their fraudulent hero played like his usual bozo self yesterday against a good team and now they’re throwing temper tantrums and pointing fingers because they feel empty inside. This is what you clowns asked for all offseason, you wanted the Cowboys to be a trash team led by an overpaid trash QB. Have fun now, it’s only the beginning.

It sucks to see the Cowboys in this sad state but at least seeing the Dak before Dallas trolls miserable and laughing in their face for the next 4-5 years will be a nice consolation prize.

 

[Slim_JD]

Dak Prescott is 10-25 against teams with winning record. That’s just up till the 2023 season. See what it looks like at the end of this season

 

[KJJ]

That defense was left out to dry in the late 1st quarter for the rest of the first half. After Dak threw that interception in the end zone with 4:34 seconds left in the first, the defense was on the field for all but 4:06 the rest of the half (4:06 vs. 15:28 for the Lions). And we dedicate 50% more cap space to that offense than the defense, so it should never be that way.

Why? Because the offense had the ball for 14 plays on 4 drives that netted a total of -1 yard. 2 three and outs, 1 turnover on downs, and 1 FG because of a 79-yard kickoff return. That defense was utterly gassed. Did they play bad? Sure? Did the offense do anything to help them rest? No. The longest the offense had the ball was 1:22.

Think of it. When the game was in doubt the offense had -1 yard total with a TOP of 4:06 minutes on 4 drives over 19:34 to end the half. The offense honestly was just as bad, if not worse than the defense (and the offense wasn't missing nearly as many players). Dak, by the way, during those 20 minutes was 3 for 8 for 17 yards, with 9 of that being on the last drive before the half after the kickoff return.

The fact that the offense was really that bad is not an agenda, its an easily verifiable fact. If the offense was able to hold the ball long enough to keep TOP at 50% during those 20 minutes, and put together one scoring drive, the difference could have been 20-13 at the half instead of 27-6.

Make excuses for the defense? Right, it’s all Dak’s fault the team sucks.

 

[Buzzbait]

You need to get over his contract. It’s signed and sealed. I only give Dak the lion share of the praise when we win when he’s the main reason we won. He certainly doesn’t deserve most of the blame after this loss. The defense was equally as bad if not worse. Our pass protection wasn’t good today and we had no running game. Dak was awful but everything around him was awful today. That’s just keeping it real.

KJJ we can get over the original shock of that contract, but I'm afraid it's going to take a little longer to get over the lasting effects of that contract meaning the effect it has on the salary cap. But you're right in one respect, it's signed and sealed and a done deal no matter how harmful the effects are. We have no choice but to live with it whether we like it or not.

 

[Praxit]

....McCarthy's play calling gave Dallas no chance. This guy goes autistic when the game plan needs innovation.

Dak fuels off that, I suppose.

 

[DStar22]

Not going after Derrick Henry was a huge mistake. Good luck telling any QB to lower their price entering the final year of their contract. Lol If the Cowboys didn’t pay him another team would have. None of these QBs that have been extended have lowered their price but all the fans here claim Dak is greedy.

LET another team pay for him then, he would be THEIR problem then.

 

[KJJ]

LET another team pay for him then, he would be THEIR problem then.

We would have a huge problem without him. We would be losing games every week.

 

[KJJ]

KJJ we can get over the original shock of that contract, but I'm afraid it's going to take a little longer to get over the lasting effects of that contract meaning the effect it has on the salary cap. But you're right in one respect, it's signed and sealed and a done deal no matter how harmful the effects are. We have no choice but to live with it whether we like it or not.

Every team that has a good QB is going through this. The price is just going to get higher to extend solid QBs. If you don’t have a QB you’re going to lose games consistently and have to invest a lot of draft capital trying to find one. At least we can use our draft picks on other positions because that’s where we’re having problems. We don’t have the personnel, especially on defense to compete with real good teams. We saw that again yesterday. Our DL is pathetic. Every good contending team we play manhandles us upfront. Our OL could be a huge issue if these young players don’t pan out.