Dak vs Jimmy G

[Aerolithe_Lion]

So you believe Jimmy is the reason the 49ers are 33-14? Why do you think they spent a top 3 pick on quarterback lol?

Someone 7 years younger who fits their offense better? Just because he’s good, doesn’t mean he’s the best they could possibly do. Plenty of successful QBs have been replaced due to injury

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Someone 7 years younger who fits their offense better? Just because he’s good, doesn’t mean he’s the best they could possibly do. Plenty of successful QBs have been replaced due to injury

Jimmy wasn’t replaced because of injury lol…he’s just not very good.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Jimmy wasn’t replaced because of injury lol…he’s just not very good.

Sure he was. They’re not moving up to third overall after he leads them to the Super Bowl. They do it once he misses the whole season for the second time in 4 years.

Kurt Warner was once cut due to injuries derailing seasons despite winning 2 MVPs. Peyton Manning was cut from the Colts due to injury and the prospect of taking a QB high in the draft, of course Garropolo is susceptible of the same. Miami once told Drew Brees they didn’t want him due to the injury he sustained in his last year in SD. Does that mean Drew Brees is not good enough to be the QB in Miami? Of course not.

When was the last time a team moved up to top 5 to draft a replacement to a QB under 30 who just made the Super Bowl? Or the same scenario for a QB who just made the NFCCG 2 out of 3 years? 2020 or 2022 draft they never make that move. 2021 after he misses another year to injury, they are compelled to. Of course it was due to injury. And injury is the same reason he hasn’t been traded yet. If he didn’t need off-season shoulder surgery, he’d be the starting QB in Indy or Atlanta or Carolina or Washington right now.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Sure he was. They’re not moving up to third overall after he leads them to the Super Bowl. They do it once he misses the whole season for the second time in 4 years.

Kurt Warner was once cut due to injuries derailing seasons despite winning 2 MVPs. Peyton Manning was cut from the Colts due to injury and the prospect of taking a QB high in the draft, of course Garropolo is susceptible of the same. Miami once told Drew Brees they didn’t want him due to the injury he sustained in his last year in SD. Does that mean Drew Brees is not good enough to be the QB in Miami? Of course not.

When was the last time a team moved up to top 5 to draft a replacement to a QB under 30 who just made the Super Bowl? Or the same scenario for a QB who just made the NFCCG 2 out of 3 years? 2020 or 2022 draft they never make that move. 2021 after he misses another year to injury, they are compelled to. Of course it was due to injury.

They moved into the top 5 because Jimmy isn’t very good. So let’s quit with the narrative he won 33 games. He went along for those wins. Even when they beat the Cowboys he stunk. He almost lost the game for them with that stupid interception.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

They moved into the top 5 because Jimmy isn’t very good. So let’s quit with the narrative he won 33 games. He went along for those wins. Even when they beat the Cowboys he stunk. He almost lost the game for them with that stupid interception.

You can make the same narrative for Dak. Jimmy has never come out of the gate in a playoff game as bad as Dak did this year. #1 offense in the NFL, 7 points through 3 quarters/3 possession deficit against a team that backed into the playoffs as a wild card in week 18.

Whether or not you want to quit with the narrative he’s 33-14 as a starter, it doesn’t change the fact that he is.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You can make the same narrative for Dak. Jimmy has never come out of the gate in a playoff game as bad as Dak did this year. #1 offense in the NFL, 7 points through 3 quarters/3 possession deficit against a team that backed into the playoffs as a wild card in week 18.

Whether or not you want to quit with the narrative he’s 33-14 as a starter, it doesn’t change the fact that he is.

If he truly was 33-14 they wouldn’t have drafted Lance.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

If he truly was 33-14 they wouldn’t have drafted Lance.

And the colts would have never cut Peyton, and the Dolphins would have signed Brees, and the Rams would have kept Warner….

Cowboys without Dak Prescott since 2017: 5-7
9ers without JimmyG since 2017: 8-27

That’s an absurd stat. 31-14 with, 8-27 without. Dude is a leader of men on the field. A winner

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And the colts would have never cut Peyton, and the Dolphins would have signed Brees, and the Rams would have kept Warner….

Cowboys without Dak Prescott since 2017: 5-7
9ers without JimmyG since 2017: 8-27

That’s an absurd stat. 31-14 with, 8-27 without. Dude is a leader of men on the field. A winner

He was 5-0 with the Pats…so I guess he was better than Brady too huh? You still haven’t answered the question…why have they been trying to get rid of Jimmy G?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

He was 5-0 with the Pats…so I guess he was better than Brady too huh? You still haven’t answered the question…why have they been trying to get rid of Jimmy G?

He was 2-0 with the pats, he did not all 4 games Brady missed. And then Brady won the super bowl that very year. Not sure how that shows he’s better than Brady….

They’ve been trying to get rid of Jimmy G because tbeyve already invested a lot in his replacement while he was injured. I’ve answered that multiple times now. We can start back at Peyton/Brees/Warner again if you’d like.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He was 2-0 with the pats, he did not all 4 games Brady missed. And then Brady won the super bowl that very year. Not sure how that shows he’s better than Brady….

They’ve been trying to get rid of Jimmy G because tbeyve already invested a lot in his replacement while he was injured. I’ve answered that multiple times now. We can start back at Peyton/Brees/Warner again if you’d like.

He won 100 percent of his games as a Patriot….does that not say he was better than Brady? You are creating a lie that he’s getting replaced because of injury and that is just not true.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

He won 100 percent of his games as a Patriot….does that not say he was better than Brady? You are creating a lie that he’s getting replaced because of injury and that is just not true.

He’s better than Brady based on a 2 game window? What are you talking about? We have an EIGHTY game window in SF.

Why did they not draft a QB after he made it to the SB, and wait until his injury derailed their season? That’s not a lie, it’s what happened. Who replaces their SB QB the year he makes it? That’s the absurd concept.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

He’s better than Brady based on a 2 game window? What are you talking about? We have an EIGHTY game window in SF.

Why did they not draft a QB after he made it to the SB, and wait until his injury derailed their season? That’s not a lie, it’s what happened. Who replaces their SB QB the year he makes it? That’s the absurd concept.

Because they had just gave him 100 million….they thought he had potential but were fooled.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Because they had just gave him 100 million….they thought he had potential but were fooled.

If going 33-14 on a team that’s 8-27 without you isnt potential, I wouldn’t mind some of that “not potential”

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If going 33-14 on a team that’s 8-27 without you isnt potential, I wouldn’t mind some of that “not potential”

The fact they went 8-27 without just means they don’t have a backup in place. I mean even I know Jimmy G is better than Nate Mullen’s or whatever the hell they threw out there….

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

The fact they went 8-27 without just means they don’t have a backup in place. I mean even I know Jimmy G is better than Nate Mullen’s or whatever the hell they threw out there….

What team has a backup better than the starter? Every starting QB should be better than their backup

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

What team has a backup better than the starter? Every starting QB should be better than their backup

It’s not about having a better backup than starter….there’s a difference between having Andy Dalton or Nick Foles as a backup as opposed to Nate Mullen’s is my point. Your a Eagirls fan you should know that.

 

[DandyDon1722]

It is going on six years but I think I am finally willing to admit Prescott has exceeded the volume of criticism Romo received his entire football playing career. That observation excludes any non-football activities though. Even so, I still think Prescott has not yet topped the degree of criticism level at Romo. That has a ways to go still I think.

As far as the versus is concerned, I see Garoppolo and Prescott on an even basis at this time. My opinion might change if-and-when both offensive and defensive lines are solidified. Considerable factors are attributive to games won and lost in the trenches and Dallas is not an exception in that regard.

That's a really false conclusion. Romo's detractors were and are the same 5%ers. What skews it is they all piled on all the time but the numbers were not large, just active and they would get crushed by the majority of other posters because 34,000 yards and 250 TD's doesn't grow on trees. They looked silly.

Dak receives more intense criticism from larger numbers than Tony ever did. This is due to several things including the way Romo lost his job and how he hendled it, Dak's contract, the talent he has around him and the fact that Romo was just a better QB.

Dak simply doesn't have the the numbers of supporters Romo did nor the defenders Romo did because he just hasn't played to the level of everybody's expectations. It's possible he could turn it around with a deep playoff run but I think the book is out on him now and it would have to be an extraordinary set of circumstances.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

It’s not about having a better backup than starter….there’s a difference between having Andy Dalton or Nick Foles as a backup as opposed to Nate Mullen’s is my point. Your a Eagirls fan you should know that.

It also shows how much better the team is with Jimmy in place than without him.

If SF was truly a loaded roster carrying Jimmy, why can’t they win even 25% of their games without him?

There is a stat called Net Yards Per Attempt. This site crunched the numbers and found it impacts a team’s chance of winning the big one more than any other QB stat; not passer rating, not ESPN QBR, not TD/INT ratio:

https://www.stadiumtalk.com/s/most-important-stat-in-football-47ea57ca1f5249d9#:~:text=A Simple Stat&text=Peyton Manning is the NFL,per pass attempt at 7.23.

Jimmy Garropolo is second all-time in Net Yards per Attempt to Mahomes. No joke.

Then there’s this site, that goes by winning indiviual games. They’re ranked each of the most important QB stats reflecting W/L records in the average regular season game:

https://mfootballanalytics.com/2020/04/06/which-qb-stats-are-the-most-important/

Turns out EPA shows more value in QB win shares than any other next gen stat. And where did Jimmy rank in that category last year?



a big part of this is that Jimmy is currently at 67.7% completion, and will retire as the most accurate QB who ever lived.

So Why is his TD % so low with stats like these? Because they don’t throw it inside the 20. Why is his INT% so high? Because they only start to go pass heavy in dire game situations. Or maybe all these stats are just blind luck and any QB could do this stuff.

He knows how to win football games; compiling TDs and yards was never the primary goal of the QB position. Here is the offense we need you to run, now do everything in your power to win the game. 31-14 with Jimmy, 8-27 without.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It also shows how much better the team is with Jimmy in place than without him.

If SF was truly a loaded roster carrying Jimmy, why can’t they win even 25% of their games without him?

There is a stat called Net Yards Per Attempt. This site crunched the numbers and found it impacts a team’s chance of winning the big one more than any other QB stat; not passer rating, not ESPN QBR, not TD/INT ratio:

https://www.stadiumtalk.com/s/most-important-stat-in-football-47ea57ca1f5249d9#:~:text=A Simple Stat&text=Peyton Manning is the NFL,per pass attempt at 7.23.

Jimmy Garropolo is second all-time in Net Yards per Attempt to Mahomes. No joke.

Then there’s this site, that goes by winning indiviual games. They’re ranked each of the most important QB stats reflecting W/L records in the average regular season game:

https://mfootballanalytics.com/2020/04/06/which-qb-stats-are-the-most-important/

Turns out EPA shows more value in QB win shares than any other next gen stat. And where did Jimmy rank in that category last year?



a big part of this is that Jimmy is currently at 67.7% completion, and will retire as the most accurate QB who ever lived.

So Why is his TD % so low with stats like these? Because they don’t throw it inside the 20. Why is his INT% so high? Because they only start to go pass heavy in dire game situations. Or maybe all these stats are just blind luck and any QB could do this stuff.

He knows how to win football games; compiling TDs and yards was never the primary goal of the QB position. Here is the offense we need you to run, now do everything in your power to win the game. 31-14 with Jimmy, 8-27 without.

With such a great quarterback....why has no one taken Jimmy G off their hands lol? Why is no one offering anything for him?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

With such a great quarterback....why has no one taken Jimmy G off their hands lol? Why is no one offering anything for him?

Again, Same reason they drafted Lance. What major assets would you trade for a QB who just got surgery on their throwing shoulder and you won’t see how it went until training camp?

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/2326546/amp

They had interested teams, but due to the unusual Starting QB availability this offseason, those teams didn’t want to wait