Dak vs Rodgers Game Winning Drives

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  1. BigCatMonaco

    BigCatMonaco Well-Known Member

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    at the current pace through his first three seasons, Dak Prescott is poised to pass Aaron Rodgers in career game winning drives at some point during next season(his fourth). Rodgers has been in the league since 2005.
     
  2. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    So try using your brain and think about what that actually might mean about game winning drives.
    Also try looking up what a game winning drive is, you and the majority of the Dak slobberers on this board don’t seem to understand what they are.
     
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  3. InTheZone

    InTheZone Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Omg seriously.

    More often than not rodgers lights it up for multiple quarters where Dak may show up for 1-2 quarters. Can we please stop with these absurd Dak comparisons
     
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  4. CouchCoach

    CouchCoach Well-Known Member Zone Supporter

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    Given the choice, the is no choice.
     
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  5. Doomsday101

    Doomsday101 Well-Known Member

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    For me the question is simple can Dallas win it all with Dak at QB? I think they can. He has more work to do and hopefully works closely with Moore and Kitna during the off season and work on things he needs to improve on. I think Dak has the physical ability and the mental makeup to improve in other areas. I don't expect him to be the next Rodgers or Brady or any other QB I do expect him to help lead this team to a SB.
     
  6. Mobinvans

    Mobinvans Well-Known Member

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    I wake up this morning and read a ridiculous homer post comparing Dak to future hall of famer Rogers...

    Just another day on the forums...
     
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  7. CATCH17

    CATCH17 1st Round Pick

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    Dak is clutch. I don't think anyone can take that from him.

    Like Witten said... He was always frustrated with the coaches when it took them so long to go to the hurry up and that is when Dak and even Romo would step it up a level.

    Spread teams out and pick up the pace.

    Instead Garrett would just rather watch the offense struggle and try to string together 10 plays drives and if it doesn't work for 3 quarters then no big deal. Process.



    Dak is a completely different player when we are spread out.
     
  8. Sage3030

    Sage3030 Well-Known Member

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    It seems he’s not really clutch. And it’s not for lack of attempts either:

    Rodgers has had 42 opportunities to stage a fourth-quarter comeback, and has found success in 12 of them, a 28.6 percent win rate, which ranks 54th out of 84 qualifying QBs. He’s far behind most of his peers: Andrew Luck has the highest such conversion percentage, at 52 percent, though Tom Brady’s 51.5 percent may be more impressive given his larger sample size. Peyton Manning sits at 48.9 percent, Tony Romo is at 47.1, and Ben Roethlisberger is at 42.6. Longtime fellow NFC North quarterbacks Matthew Stafford and Jay Cutler are at 40 percent and 41.8 percent, respectively. Even Jake Delhomme, Andy Dalton, Derek Carr, and Tim freaking Couch crack 40 percent.

    https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/9/11/17846226/aaron-rodgers-comebacks-green-bay-packers

    Then there is this table:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.re...ter_comebackgamewinning_drive/#ampf=undefined

    And yup, you see he gets opportunities, but just can’t do it.

    We’ve seen him be clutch against us. It’s frustrating, and not comforting at all to realize we make up a fraction of the times he has done it and its more of an aberration than anything, but it’s there. He’s just not clutch like one would think he is.
     
  9. Kevinicus

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    Clutch (as far as individual games goes) is just a completely nonsensical term. The entire game matters. Play good early, and you don't have to play as good late. Play poor early, and you need to play better late. The points late aren't worth more at the end of the game than they are at the beginning. And yes, you do have time to make up for mistakes at the end of the game. That's what all that time prior to any mistake is.

    "Game winning" drives is a stat that culminates from the entirety of the football game. It is based on what the team does, both before, and AFTER that point. It is not a reflection on the QB. Defense is a huge factor (as they are in all games).

    Mediocre teams are generally going to have more "opportunities."

    Like most things like this, it is absolutely absurd to try and link this to an individual player.
     
  10. Longboysfan

    Longboysfan hipfake08 Zone Supporter

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    Rodgers gets the Packers in front and stays in front.

    42 chances...

    That means there were 100 plus others he had them in front.
     
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  11. Sage3030

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    Being clutch is coming through when the chips are down. He can’t really do that.
     
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  12. BigCatMonaco

    BigCatMonaco Well-Known Member

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    Also Aaron Rodgers was 0-35 when trailing by more than one point at any time in the fourth quarter going into last season. For more clutch info.
     
  13. Swagger

    Swagger Active Member

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    Largely agree.

    It's only really worth noting when a QB plays/played on a team with a poor offensive line/weak defense.

    Impressive stats from Romo as he mostly had to contend with both including one of the historically worst defenses to have ever played in the league.

    Regarding Brady, well the style of coaching by Belichick has kept a lot of games close, perhaps trusting Brady to get it done on the last drive given his high level of efficiency.

    Whereas Rodgers will have blown out teams and often been let down by a poor defense.
     
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  14. Blake

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    Too bad Romo couldn't do that...
     
  15. Super_Kazuya

    Super_Kazuya Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a fake stat, probably better source that one...
     
  16. Pessimist_cowboy

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    Almost right it’s 0-38 when trailing by more than 1 point vs teams above 500.
     
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  17. Runwildboys

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    I think we need a universal definition for "clutch".

    To me, it means someone who doesn't get rattled and does all he can do for his part, to win a game. It means you can count on him to lead the team to victory, and you never feel like you're going to lose a game before it even starts.

    It doesn't mean falling behind in the first half because he doesn't turn it on until the second half.
     
  18. ItzKelz

    ItzKelz Well-Known Member

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    To me that defines Dak. Just being real. Seriously....you do not think that is Dak?
     
  19. PAPPYDOG

    PAPPYDOG “There were 4 guys open.” -Troy Aikman Zone Supporter

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    :huh::huh::huh::huh::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::muttley::muttley::muttley::muttley:
     
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  20. AmariChill

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    Tbh, I don't even understand the game winning drives stat and I'm a Dak "lover". It means that the offense fell flat prior to the game winning drive, which isn't good, but nonetheless I'm thankful for the game-winning drives he does have. There are 4 Quarters for a reason.

    That being said, I think the only reason he has so many is because he listens/has confidence in himself, trusts his arm, and stops listening to Linehan and Garrett. He also stops being overly cautious and becomes aggressive. This is what we need from him all game. That's why I want a new HC because anyone and everyone can tell that Dak plays his best when Dak has control. I want a new HC to encourage this behavior and thinking. A lot of people say he isn't accurate, but in the 4th Q, when all he's doing is slinging it, he does pretty well. That's why I want more pass plays next season as well. Post Amari Trade, Dak got better (slightly) passing wise and I hope Moore capitalizes on this and I hope he will trust Dak's arm. When the coaches believe in you, you believe in yourself. With Linehan and Garrett, that wasn't the case.
     
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