Dak was better than Allen against the Ravens

[Swagger]

Yup. Moved the ball better. More offense. Allen at least has a running back and nobody as bad as Guyton has looked in the last 2 games. Tho I'm not writing him off just yet.

Also Dak had an egregious CD fumble and a Guyton holding penalty which offsetted a pass interference we drew at the 2 yard line. It wasn't Dak's fault he had 2 TDs taken off. Allen had a few drops tho but definitely less ineptitude around him overall.

So yup, Dak was better. Explain this away haters.

Have you thought about doing stand-up comedy?

Allen carries the entire team. He is their leader. He is instrumental to their run game. He makes play after play to help the team win games. He doesn't just drive the bus and Prescott has always had a better o-line.

Allen isn't overly fussed about garbage time stats. He plays to win.

Most importantly of all ask yourself this question.

Would this Bills team go 5-1 with a practice squad QB?

 

[Staubacher]

Have you thought about doing stand-up comedy?

Allen carries the entire team. He is their leader. He is instrumental to their run game. He makes play after play to help the team win games. He doesn't just drive the bus and Prescott has always had a better o-line.

Allen isn't overly fussed about garbage time stats. He plays to win.

Most importantly of all ask yourself this question.

Would this Bills team go 5-1 with a practice squad QB?

Lawyered!

 

[McKDaddy]

1- Every QB does this. Check the stats. They are all measurably worse against better teams.
2- Dak went on a run last year for 8 games where if those numbers are stretched out for a whole season he would have finished with like 52 TDs and 4 Ints. But apparently QBs do that all the time.
3- This is very subjective. I can point you to the fact that last week Dak was deadly accurate on like ten throws, that only 4 or 5 other qbs would make. Watch the game again. His receivers got almost no seperation at all. And these plays you mention are great- however, I hate to break it to you, but those guys arent even playing as well as Dak is now... and Dak isn't dominating- so I don't know how they are the best regardless of stats over any stretch. Mahomes has been okay to start the year, he misses a ton of easy throws if you actually watch him (talking about this year) and Herbert for all his talent has never fully realized it. So i;m sure he is more talented than Dak but in thier actual play he has never shown himself to be better

Let's just start simple. Can Dak make the Mahomes to Worthy play? I tried to post the youtube link but it won't play. Easy to find though.

 

[blueblood70]

Josh Allen reminds me of Brett Favre. Godly arm, can scramble (better than Favre) and just makes stuff happen. He also turns the ball over a lot because he is gifted enough to make it happen but he is what you want… a QB who has shown many times he can put the team on his shoulders. Any team would take Allen over Dak in a heartbeat. Not a diss on Dak, but talent like Allen doesn’t come around often.

Regarding the apples to apples comparisons. Look around the league. The last 20 years. Parity and little depth thanks to the salary cap. Teams that get hot in the end usually go all the way but there are very few predictable dominant teams. Impossible to compare teams week to week, especially the beginning of the season. All the more frustrating for me that our team hasn’t had at least one year where they went back to the Super Bowl. Ravens lost to the Raiders in week 2, Raiders barely squeaked a win over the Browns, a team our Boys dominated just a few weeks ago. Good luck trying to make sense of it.

That is what I've always said that's my comp he is exactly who that is it's kind of like.. and there's a reason brett favre only won one super bowl in 19 years. It's for that very reason I mean there are far other reasons I'm sure but when you make an equal amount of mistakes as you do positive plays for your team sometimes it is gonna be costly and you are gonna lose in the playoffs bigger games bigger opponents we've seen it.... I mean believe it or not even Drew Brees turned the ball over a lot but he also provided a **** ton of touchdowns like Brett Favre manning nearly only won one Super Bowl he had guys like Dan Marino but we'll see if josh allen gets his....s gonna take a hell of a run to do so..

But if Eli Manning can win we know this is an Ultimate Team game and it's gonna be the teams whether it's Josh Allen's or Prescott's that happened to put together the perfect roster and get on the perfect run and have a perfect run of luck in the playoffs to get the job done I guess that goes for Lamar Jackson as well somebody's gonna put the right team together at the right time and hit the right stride and one of those guys were gonna get a Super Bowl real soon...

 

[blueblood70]

1- Every QB does this. Check the stats. They are all measurably worse against better teams.
2- Dak went on a run last year for 8 games where if those numbers are stretched out for a whole season he would have finished with like 52 TDs and 4 Ints. But apparently QBs do that all the time.
3- This is very subjective. I can point you to the fact that last week Dak was deadly accurate on like ten throws, that only 4 or 5 other qbs would make. Watch the game again. His receivers got almost no seperation at all. And these plays you mention are great- however, I hate to break it to you, but those guys arent even playing as well as Dak is now... and Dak isn't dominating- so I don't know how they are the best regardless of stats over any stretch. Mahomes has been okay to start the year, he misses a ton of easy throws if you actually watch him (talking about this year) and Herbert for all his talent has never fully realized it. So i;m sure he is more talented than Dak but in thier actual play he has never shown himself to be better

100Correct, Prescott's not s not elite, but he is definitely one of the top Tier 2 guys in this league, always been top 10 but some years easily top 5, that sometimes can have elite games...

and you're 100% right all quarterbacks do this all teams do this I like how quarterbacks have to live with the record of their team when we don't talk about the records of the teams when we're talking about skilled positions all these highly paid skilled guys on teams collecting paychecks not helping their team in the big games why is it always river back that has to eat the record we're saying his playoff record is bad his record against good teams and above 500 teams are worse than when he beats up on lesser teams...

That's literally all players and all teams you go look at it we've already proven that most quarterbacks and most teams do the same exact thing they get most of their stats against lesser teams and then seemed to come back down to earth against the better talent and usually it's a team that comes in healthier when you have evenly matched teams against say two really good teams it's the one that comes in healthier and makes the least amount of penalties and mistakes that wins the game is a fine line in this league between winning and losing....IE Parity at its finest

 

[blueblood70]

Lol no. He was the betting favorite after week 14 last year. He had a bad game against Buffalo, and then he probably would have jumped up again if they beat Miami, a game he played great in BTW. And then he finished second in MVP voting.

Right it's not his fault wasn't that the game that there was a fumble at the goal line and then he still got the team back in it up by one with four minutes and once again guess who didn't show up that would be the defense the defense once again lost the game for the Cowboys but we always blame the quarterback...

And I'm not sure about the Buffalo game I mean Josh Allen won that game for throwing under 100 yards and they ran the ball all over our defense once again we had no run game once again and weren't we missing 2 offensive lineman in that game I can't remember... This will forever be a team game but I can tell you this I'm not a Homer he got robbed last year he was the regular season NFL MVP. He got robbed Romo got robbed one year as well it's not fair I seen Luca doncic I think there's some kind of Dallas bias that when it's like really close they'll just take the other guy...

 

[Cmac]

Yup. Moved the ball better. More offense. Allen at least has a running back and nobody as bad as Guyton has looked in the last 2 games. Tho I'm not writing him off just yet.

Also Dak had an egregious CD fumble and a Guyton holding penalty which offsetted a pass interference we drew at the 2 yard line. It wasn't Dak's fault he had 2 TDs taken off. Allen had a few drops tho but definitely less ineptitude around him overall.

So yup, Dak was better. Explain this away haters.

....now you know Haters aren't taking this. You know.

 

[Wangchung83]

Thread is an insult to my intelligence and common sense. Enjoy homers

 

[gimmesix]

Yup. Moved the ball better. More offense. Allen at least has a running back and nobody as bad as Guyton has looked in the last 2 games. Tho I'm not writing him off just yet.

Also Dak had an egregious CD fumble and a Guyton holding penalty which offsetted a pass interference we drew at the 2 yard line. It wasn't Dak's fault he had 2 TDs taken off. Allen had a few drops tho but definitely less ineptitude around him overall.

So yup, Dak was better. Explain this away haters.

Just yet should include his entire rookie season. We're asking a lot of a rookie who played right tackle in college to come in and start at left tackle his first year. This will be a learning process.

 

[blueblood70]

Just yet should include his entire rookie season. We're asking a lot of a rookie who played right tackle in college to come in and start at left tackle his first year. This will be a learning process.

Guyton hasn't looked bad, he's had some bad moments, a couple of bad plays but overall, he's been actually playing pretty well,

I don't get the no one's played worse look to the other side, steele is by far been worse than guyton. BY FAR the man is making huge money and he's making it hard on our front office and coaching staff to try to protect both tackles when it would be nice to help guyton out, but you can't because of steele!!!

 

[blueblood70]

Yup. Moved the ball better. More offense. Allen at least has a running back and nobody as bad as Guyton has looked in the last 2 games. Tho I'm not writing him off just yet.

Also Dak had an egregious CD fumble and a Guyton holding penalty which offsetted a pass interference we drew at the 2 yard line. It wasn't Dak's fault he had 2 TDs taken off. Allen had a few drops tho but definitely less ineptitude around him overall.

So yup, Dak was better. Explain this away haters.

Guyton hasn't looked bad, he's had some bad moments, a couple of bad plays but overall, he's been actually playing pretty well,

I don't get the no one's played worse look to the other side, steele is by far been worse than guyton. BY FAR the man is making huge money and he's making it hard on our front office and coaching staff to try to protect both tackles when it would be nice to help guyton out, but you can't because of steele!!!
Forgiven your statement is how Prescott's overcoming a lack of a run game some bad moments by his tackles hell throw Zach Martin in there can't let him go he's been pushed back a few times I've never seen him manhandled but he has been so that's a work in progress up front but sure prescott deserves his flowers..

He's definitely doing the most with the least right now I mean you learn it's A1 dimensional football it said no run game the offensive line is not giving him as much time to get things open downfield for bigger plays he's having to dump the ball off quicker I mean it's not terrible it's in progress but yeah you kind of exaggerated there's no way our rookies playing that bad at all at all he just had some bad moments a couple of game either in penalties some are ticky tack really the guy on the other side is worse you I don't know what your eyes been watching but you might wanna turn them over to the right of your screen because that guy is overpaid and he has not been right since his injury... i mean so far he's better than last ....ot back to his form that got him paid.

 

[FVSTONE]

Yup. Moved the ball better. More offense. Allen at least has a running back and nobody as bad as Guyton has looked in the last 2 games. Tho I'm not writing him off just yet.

Also Dak had an egregious CD fumble and a Guyton holding penalty which offsetted a pass interference we drew at the 2 yard line. It wasn't Dak's fault he had 2 TDs taken off. Allen had a few drops tho but definitely less ineptitude around him overall.

So yup, Dak was better. Explain this away haters.

Once again Dakota showed up when the Ravens were up by double digits and were in their prevent defense when the Cowboys tried to make the score closer than the game was in the 4th quarter! That's Prescott's MO, he nuts up for most of the game and then turns it on when the other team let's down it's guard because they are so far ahead! The only thing that has changed about the TOAD HUNTER in 2024 is his bank account!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Brax]

Last year and a half.

You realize that there was like an 8 game stretch last year from October to the beginning of December where Dak put together one of the greatest runs of all time? He was clearly the best qb in the league at that time.

You also realize he finished second in mvp voting last year and that his stats over the last year and a half are better than almost every other qb?

But your eye test tells you he isn’t good ok sure

Greatest runs of all time, you are the greatest jokester on this board. He followed that greatness run with the greatest embarrassment in Cowboys playoff history. Jerry should ask the NFL to let Dak play the Giants 17 times a year imagine the greatness that would be Dak. LMAO You can’t make this stuff up, hooray for Hollywood Dak your hero

 

[gimmesix]

Guyton hasn't looked bad, he's had some bad moments, a couple of bad plays but overall, he's been actually playing pretty well,

I don't get the no one's played worse look to the other side, steele is by far been worse than guyton. BY FAR the man is making huge money and he's making it hard on our front office and coaching staff to try to protect both tackles when it would be nice to help guyton out, but you can't because of steele!!!

I was hoping that Steele would bounce back this year, but this might be who he is.

 

[Yobwocs]

This game is showing that Allen and Dak are basically the same QB with the same optical postseason success.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Can you imagine how envious MM is of Dan Quinn in Washington?

 

[IceStar-D7]

Anybody in here believing Dak Prescott or any quarterback on their own is going to win a SB should probably quit watching football. You want to win a SB??? GET A GREAT to good DEFENSE!! How many quarterbacks won one without it?????

 

[Blackspider214]

This game is showing that Allen and Dak are basically the same QB with the same optical postseason success.

Been saying that forever. Josh Allen only got to the AFC Championship because of his defense. Believe there was a 102yd pick 6 against the Ravens that changed that game and his defense didn't even give up a TD. His most notable game in his career is a loss to KC in the divisional round.

Allen will stack up his stats against poor teams. Their opening schedule was very easy, all against weak defenses and offenses that couldn't really keep up.

 

[Yobwocs]

Been saying that forever. Josh Allen only got to the AFC Championship because of his defense. Believe there was a 102yd pick 6 against the Ravens that changed that game and his defense didn't even give up a TD. His most notable game in his career is a loss to KC in the divisional round.

Allen will stack up his stats against poor teams. Their opening schedule was very easy, all against weak defenses and offenses that couldn't really keep up.

He's beaten the Chiefs in the regular season a few times, but every one has a few key wins against good teams. Dak has those too, but they've just all been degraded by forum members.

 

[leeblair]

Yup. Moved the ball better. More offense. Allen at least has a running back and nobody as bad as Guyton has looked in the last 2 games. Tho I'm not writing him off just yet.

Also Dak had an egregious CD fumble and a Guyton holding penalty which offsetted a pass interference we drew at the 2 yard line. It wasn't Dak's fault he had 2 TDs taken off. Allen had a few drops tho but definitely less ineptitude around him overall.

So yup, Dak was better. Explain this away haters.

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