Dak was better than Allen against the Ravens

[starfan1]

1st drive 2 penalties killed it
2nd drive FG
3rd drive Ceedee fumble
4th drive bad series went nowhere 3 and out had another penalty declined
5th drive ended with the horrendous Dak miss to elliott probably his worse pass of the game.
6th drive FG end of half

Im not gonna list the second half but the first half was abysmal from a defensive standpoint and while the offense wasnt stellar penalties were a bigger issue than the QB. I love how these threads trigger the ABD crew.

 

[blueblood70]

Josh Allen wins....He Carries WRs

Josh Allen loses....He Needs WRs

The QB worship tribe know Josh Allen is so good he doesn't need Garbage Stats in a blow out or another comeback victory

"Diggs was cancer and holding Josh back"

 

[blueblood70]

Just the fact the Dak fans feel the need to throw up threads like this tells me everything.

Need a balance and equalize all the hater threads Yep sure do there's gotta be somewhere in between right but yeah there's far more hater threads there's some sports idiots writing on social media platforms saying that we could be two and two right now with Trey Lance at quarterback as if somehow we have a run game receivers getting open a good scheme and a great defense some are still saying Cooper rush would be better for this offense because he's more normal then he stays with the confines of the outfit you know that nonsense that we hear constantly they be dead wrong we'd probably be winless right now without Prescott... but yeah those narratives those threads for the hate gotta be balanced somehow

 

[blueblood70]

How much did they play against the Bills? Game was over soon as they did the coin toss lol.

You mean like the guy what was it the week before I don't follow the bills that much they had like under 100 yards passing and his run game and defense helped win him the game same as the game they played on us was it the year before last or was it last year Josh Allen had 97 yards imagine a game even that we won of the haters that come in here that don't like that are all over social media saying where was he to help this team win they had to do it without him they had to prop him up I mean the run game in the defense and the coaching matters and Prescott has a whole lot less of it then Josh does in my opinion but hey that's my opinion but I'll be a Homer and a apologist is that they call us even though we know what we're seeing...

 

[Ken]

The haters' replies are pathetic. LOL.

but completely on brand.

 

[MojaveJT]

A quarter of a billion dollars just doesn't buy what it used to. Dak is terrible this season. Bottom third of the league.

But it’s everyone else’s fault according Dak’s boyfriends here on the zone.

 

[erod]

Yup. Moved the ball better. More offense. Allen at least has a running back and nobody as bad as Guyton has looked in the last 2 games. Tho I'm not writing him off just yet.

Also Dak had an egregious CD fumble and a Guyton holding penalty which offsetted a pass interference we drew at the 2 yard line. It wasn't Dak's fault he had 2 TDs taken off. Allen had a few drops tho but definitely less ineptitude around him overall.

So yup, Dak was better. Explain this away haters.

Lol, I guess you tuned in at 28-3.

 

[ZekeTrain]

Yup. Moved the ball better. More offense. Allen at least has a running back and nobody as bad as Guyton has looked in the last 2 games. Tho I'm not writing him off just yet.

Also Dak had an egregious CD fumble and a Guyton holding penalty which offsetted a pass interference we drew at the 2 yard line. It wasn't Dak's fault he had 2 TDs taken off. Allen had a few drops tho but definitely less ineptitude around him overall.

So yup, Dak was better. Explain this away haters.

Only if you ignore the first 3 quarters.

 

[AmericanCowboy]

Just when I didn't think this thread could get any funnier. Wow.

Last year and a half.

You realize that there was like an 8 game stretch last year from October to the beginning of December where Dak put together one of the greatest runs of all time? He was clearly the best qb in the league at that time.

You also realize he finished second in mvp voting last year and that his stats over the last year and a half are better than almost every other qb?

But your eye test tells you he isn’t good ok sure

 

[diamonddelts]

Last year and a half.

You realize that there was like an 8 game stretch last year from October to the beginning of December where Dak put together one of the greatest runs of all time? He was clearly the best qb in the league at that time.

 

[VaqueroTD]

Josh Allen reminds me of Brett Favre. Godly arm, can scramble (better than Favre) and just makes stuff happen. He also turns the ball over a lot because he is gifted enough to make it happen but he is what you want… a QB who has shown many times he can put the team on his shoulders. Any team would take Allen over Dak in a heartbeat. Not a diss on Dak, but talent like Allen doesn’t come around often.

Regarding the apples to apples comparisons. Look around the league. The last 20 years. Parity and little depth thanks to the salary cap. Teams that get hot in the end usually go all the way but there are very few predictable dominant teams. Impossible to compare teams week to week, especially the beginning of the season. All the more frustrating for me that our team hasn’t had at least one year where they went back to the Super Bowl. Ravens lost to the Raiders in week 2, Raiders barely squeaked a win over the Browns, a team our Boys dominated just a few weeks ago. Good luck trying to make sense of it.

 

[McKDaddy]

Last year and a half.

You realize that there was like an 8 game stretch last year from October to the beginning of December where Dak put together one of the greatest runs of all time? He was clearly the best qb in the league at that time.

You also realize he finished second in mvp voting last year and that his stats over the last year and a half are better than almost every other qb?

But your eye test tells you he isn’t good ok sure

Key points.

1. Putting up numbers against the weaker teams does not make him the best QB during that span
2. Joe Flacco and several other backup QB's put up great stretches last year. Putting up numbers in this era does not mean the QB is a great QB. Records are falling every week \ year.
3. Dak simply cannot make the plays that the elite QB's make. Game in, game out other QB's are making plays for their team that Dak is simply not capable of. Therefore, he can not be the best QB during any period of time. Couple examples from last week. Mahomes (62 yard in the air I believe) hits worthy in stride going almost straight away from him for the TD. Dak simply can't make that play. Late in the game, Herbert with multiple injuries rolling left threaded one down the sideline between multiple defenders and put the ball the only place it could be put. His guy didn't catch it but the throw was off the charts. It's not just a knock on Dak. Only a few QB's can make these throws. That's why they are the best regardless of stats over any stretch.

 

[Staubacher]

Just the fact the Dak fans feel the need to throw up threads like this tells me everything.

Lol so true.

I checked a Bills site.. there wasn't one thread about trying to compare Josh Allen to Dak Prescott

 

[Hadenough]

Yup. Moved the ball better. More offense. Allen at least has a running back and nobody as bad as Guyton has looked in the last 2 games. Tho I'm not writing him off just yet.

Also Dak had an egregious CD fumble and a Guyton holding penalty which offsetted a pass interference we drew at the 2 yard line. It wasn't Dak's fault he had 2 TDs taken off. Allen had a few drops tho but definitely less ineptitude around him overall.

So yup, Dak was better. Explain this away haters.

Dak has always struggled when facing the Bills and Allen. On the flip Allen has never struggled against a Dak led team. Explain that. Both teams are supposed to be equal.

 

[acr731]

Last year and a half.

You realize that there was like an 8 game stretch last year from October to the beginning of December where Dak put together one of the greatest runs of all time? He was clearly the best qb in the league at that time.

You also realize he finished second in mvp voting last year and that his stats over the last year and a half are better than almost every other qb?

But your eye test tells you he isn’t good ok sure

I think you need to go back to last years schedule and point out all the cream puffs that allowed Dak to go on this super duper 'greatest run of all time'. And for the record, if his run was sooooooo great, why didn't he win MVP? That's right, because the voters recognize the level of competition Dak padded his stats against.

 

[Hadenough]

A quarter of a billion dollars just doesn't buy what it used to. Dak is terrible this season. Bottom third of the league.

Prescott is the biggest fools gold in the NFL. His fan base lives off his stats compiled against weak teams and prevent defenses that have the game in hand. They fail to realize having a watermelon in your throat and deer in the headlights look and unable to even be competitive drops him to the bottom of the league in playoff QBs. But dumb Jerry pays him anyways. What a fool! Go Justin Fields and Steelers!

 

[Staubacher]

Prescott is the biggest fools gold in the NFL. His fan base lives off his stats compiled against weak teams and prevent defenses that have the game in hand. They fail to realize having a watermelon in your throat and deer in the headlights look and unable to even be competitive drops him to the bottom of the league in playoff QBs. But dumb Jerry pays him anyways. What a fool! Go Justin Fields and Steelers!

He's literally being paid in fool's gold (Jerrahs money)

 

[AmericanCowboy]

I think you need to go back to last years schedule and point out all the cream puffs that allowed Dak to go on this super duper 'greatest run of all time'. And for the record, if his run was sooooooo great, why didn't he win MVP? That's right, because the voters recognize the level of competition Dak padded his stats against.

Lol he finished second... you also play who is in front of you. No one ***** on Mahomes or Allen for putting up good numbers against bad teams.....every QB is worse against better teams

 

[AmericanCowboy]

Key points.

1. Putting up numbers against the weaker teams does not make him the best QB during that span
2. Joe Flacco and several other backup QB's put up great stretches last year. Putting up numbers in this era does not mean the QB is a great QB. Records are falling every week \ year.
3. Dak simply cannot make the plays that the elite QB's make. Game in, game out other QB's are making plays for their team that Dak is simply not capable of. Therefore, he can not be the best QB during any period of time. Couple examples from last week. Mahomes (62 yard in the air I believe) hits worthy in stride going almost straight away from him for the TD. Dak simply can't make that play. Late in the game, Herbert with multiple injuries rolling left threaded one down the sideline between multiple defenders and put the ball the only place it could be put. His guy didn't catch it but the throw was off the charts. It's not just a knock on Dak. Only a few QB's can make these throws. That's why they are the best regardless of stats over any stretch.

1- Every QB does this. Check the stats. They are all measurably worse against better teams.
2- Dak went on a run last year for 8 games where if those numbers are stretched out for a whole season he would have finished with like 52 TDs and 4 Ints. But apparently QBs do that all the time.
3- This is very subjective. I can point you to the fact that last week Dak was deadly accurate on like ten throws, that only 4 or 5 other qbs would make. Watch the game again. His receivers got almost no seperation at all. And these plays you mention are great- however, I hate to break it to you, but those guys arent even playing as well as Dak is now... and Dak isn't dominating- so I don't know how they are the best regardless of stats over any stretch. Mahomes has been okay to start the year, he misses a ton of easy throws if you actually watch him (talking about this year) and Herbert for all his talent has never fully realized it. So i;m sure he is more talented than Dak but in thier actual play he has never shown himself to be better

 

[AmericanCowboy]

I think you need to go back to last years schedule and point out all the cream puffs that allowed Dak to go on this super duper 'greatest run of all time'. And for the record, if his run was sooooooo great, why didn't he win MVP? That's right, because the voters recognize the level of competition Dak padded his stats against.

Lol no. He was the betting favorite after week 14 last year. He had a bad game against Buffalo, and then he probably would have jumped up again if they beat Miami, a game he played great in BTW. And then he finished second in MVP voting.