Dak wasn't that good last night **merged**

[Redball Express]

I was reading the story and half way through I had to put the Vaseline bottle away...so that was disappointing

with that said I want to be a cowboy all my life. nothing wrong with that. I don't deny him. he may not have it in him to be a cowboy. he knows he has to get better. his first year it was obvious he needed to be better in throwing the ball, better mechanics, etc. its the 3rd year and he hasn't progressed, not only that it seems he has regressed. his first year he was going through his reads, now, he stares down his receivers. I like dak. he is an awesome guy. he has an awesome story, I don' hate him. I want and would like him to succeed, but based on 2 years and 2 games, he is not there and he has regressed. he has 14 more games, but given recent trend, its not looking good.

with that said...we have a fairly easy 3 game schedule. he can gain his confidence and get better mechanics. if he doesn't the rest of the season will be very rough.

I hope for the sake of all cowboys fans, he does turn it around

Understood.

Hahaha..

Vaseline?

Funny boy.

Just wanted to keep you reading.

I agree with your points

I"m nervous about Sunday.

Trap game for us.

 

[csirl]

I found it frustrating looking at the Jets and Browns game on Thursday. Both teams had rookie QBs who are further along on the "process" than Dak.

I'm beginning to wonder if the development Dak is another decade long Jason Garrett "process" that never gets there.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

Dak is part of the 'Garrett Era' --- his career will likely be ended by bad coaching, & JG will throw him under the bus; and if need be Kellen Moore as well .

 

[Aviano90]

I found it frustrating looking at the Jets and Browns game on Thursday. Both teams had rookie QBs who are further along on the "process" than Dak.

I'm beginning to wonder if the development Dak is another decade long Jason Garrett "process" that never gets there.

You saw something in San Darnold? The dude was terrible.

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/bo...9/21/jets-sam-darnold-not-inspiring-fear/amp/

 

[Starforever]

I found it frustrating looking at the Jets and Browns game on Thursday. Both teams had rookie QBs who are further along on the "process" than Dak.

I'm beginning to wonder if the development Dak is another decade long Jason Garrett "process" that never gets there.

Surely you jest. That statement cannot be taken as truth. Two rookies further along than a third year player. I understand frustration, but the hyperbole, not so much.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You mean Stephen and Jerry let him walk.
They pinched pennies on the bellcow who had a huge part of that 12-4 offense but gave 9mil a year for potential in Crawford .

Garrett, Witten, Romo and Murray were all close.

Wasn't it Jerry who said any RB could have success behind this line?

Then they spend the 4th overall the following year on a RB.

Im sure it was an overall decision and those clowns certainly had the most say. But if you are the head coach, you have to convince the idiots that its a bad move and that Randal can no way handle things. IF he couldnt do that, or agreed with them, either way he is useless.

 

[CowboyRoy]

In the NFL you don't have 3 All-Pros on the same line. It is a unicorn in today's NFL. So. yeah. If you've got the best LT, RG and C and some solid starters, you are going to win some games. In fact, you BETTER win some games. .Most starting QBs play without such talent (let alone any talent) on the line, so this notion that Dak and Zeke have to have their butts wiped with talcum poweder by 3 All-Pros is ridiculous. That explains much of Dak's success in 2016.

Dak's problems are of his own making. He's a young QB who had everything made "friendly" for him instead of being allowed to develop. Now, in Year 3, he's behind many of the QBs that people were gleefully chuckling at other teams fro drafting ahead of Dak. Now Linehan devises a scheme that should suit Dak and he can't execute it. Now we are back to the RPO stuff, because that is our only hope at winning some games and have to hope our defense holds up.. But that is a band aid fix and is not sustainable. Any offense that is predicated on the other team failing to keep their assignments is not a recipe for championships. Dak simply needs to figure this out.before next season or else his days are numbered here.

Only we DONT have 3 all pros anymore. We have 1.5. And Dak had no problems as a rookie when he had those guys. Clearly he is still maturing as a QB. But we have seen what he can do given great players around him on the line. So its pretty simple stuff. Fix the line or wait for him to mature.

However, its pretty obvious he isnt going to be of the elite status even when he does mature. However, I was never one of these types that thinks you need one to win it all like some. Stuck up for Romo in the same way.

And no the RPO stuff isnt a bandaid. Its playing to his strengths. Should have been doing it all along.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Who is the thread about? If you want to do a Zeke thread or any other player do it but as long as this thread is about Dak that's who we are talking about. Some of y'all acting like y'all on the Prescott payroll smdh

No, its just really dumb to hear people talk about Dak like they know something. And like some Rookie isnt going to have growing pains as well. This is what happens when you throw a young QB to the wolves.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Time will tell and my money is on the Cowboys looking for another QB in the near future.

Time will tell. Yes it will.

I think we will know a lot more by the end of this season.

 

[G2]

Out of curiosity, what year do you think was better?

We don't know. Prescott played, Romo did not. With Romo's track record of late season, win or go home games, and how Prescott did vs. GB you could debate if Romo even gets to the playoffs. Or stays healthy for that matter. It's complete conjecture. 2006, 2007, 2009 and 2014 were all teams that had opportunities. And Romo was in large part unsuccessful taking advantage of the multiple opportunities.
No one likes to talk about the bunders. Now it's all these hypotheticals. IF Romo had this team or that, IF he had Elliott, IF he had this O line. He had plenty.

 

[Philmonroe]

Prescott payroll? Because we choose to support our young quarterback? I’m convinced. You’re an idiot

Its a lot of people that support Prescott that aren't on the payroll so spare me your strawman questions. I'm convinced it don't matter what you're convinced about.

 

[Philmonroe]

No, its just really dumb to hear people talk about Dak like they know something. And like some Rookie isnt going to have growing pains as well. This is what happens when you throw a young QB to the wolves.

Nobody really knows much as we think on this issue. Its not like you do either or you'd be somewhere actually getting paid for your football knowledge. He isn't a rookie anymore he is in his third year and y'all acting like a protective parent that can't get that your baby going to have stuff said about their child. If he plays better he wont these threads and if he doesn't more of these threads will be made.

 

[kevm3]

I found it frustrating looking at the Jets and Browns game on Thursday. Both teams had rookie QBs who are further along on the "process" than Dak.

I'm beginning to wonder if the development Dak is another decade long Jason Garrett "process" that never gets there.

They aren't further along Dak in his rookie year. Dak looked like the next big thing. The problem is Dak, as long as all our other qbs, regress the longer they stay here. We see how much difference coaching made on Byron Jones once the coaching got him in the right place. He went from looking like a workout warrior bust to a shutdown safety. Now who do we have teaching Dak? Oh yea, Kellen Moore and Scott Linehan

 

[Cap12]

Only we DONT have 3 all pros anymore. We have 1.5. And Dak had no problems as a rookie when he had those guys. Clearly he is still maturing as a QB. But we have seen what he can do given great players around him on the line. So its pretty simple stuff. Fix the line or wait for him to mature.

However, its pretty obvious he isnt going to be of the elite status even when he does mature. However, I was never one of these types that thinks you need one to win it all like some. Stuck up for Romo in the same way.

And no the RPO stuff isnt a bandaid. Its playing to his strengths. Should have been doing it all along.

My point was we had three in 2016. Having 1.5 All-Pros on the line is better than what 90% of the QBs in the league have on their O-lines.

As far as RPOs, any system that is pedicated on your opponent playing undisciplined defense is not a system at all. It won't work on good teams and is not a good foundation for a playoff contender. Yeah, it can ocasionally be done if you have an elite defense that generates turnovers and you get really lucky on offense.

Read option tools can be effective, if a QB can play in the pocket too. Look at Aaron Rodgers. The guy is deadly from the pocket but even scarier when he improvises. That is the kind of QB Dak should aspire to become. He doesn't have Rodger's arm talent, but if he can prove that he can consistently making winning throws from the pocket, he will be playing more like Rodgers than Cam Newton. That is the kind of development we need from Dak.

BTW, the only time a QB running an RPO system won a Super Bowl, that QB had an elite, ball hawking Defense. Now that QB has become a pocket passer. He'd be even better if he had Dak's 1.5 All-Pros on the O-Line and Zeke.

 

[Blackthorn]

The first three plays of the Cowboys vs Giants looked like Dak was playing chess and the Giants were playing checkers. Watch how each of the plays were building a crescendo for Tavon’s TD on the 9 route.

Watch Dak’s hand placement on the football each of the plays. He really is performing the small nuances that allows a QB to be successful. The I formation sells the run for play action. Dak appears to hand the ball off with his left hand. Landon Collin bites on the fake and Dak fires the ball deep. Jack Rabbit is overwhelmed and could not cover Tavon Austin. Dallas was cooking with gasoline.

 

[erod]

And after that, he threw for 80 total yards the next three and a half quarters.

 

[texbumthelife]

The first three plays of the Cowboys vs Giants looked like Dak was playing chess and the Giants were playing checkers. Watch how each of the plays were building a crescendo for Tavon’s TD on the 9 route.

Watch Dak’s hand placement on the football each of the plays. He really is performing the small nuances that allows a QB to be successful. The I formation sells the run for play action. Dak appears to hand the ball off with his left hand. Landon Collin bites on the fake and Dak fires the ball deep. Jack Rabbit is overwhelmed and could not cover Tavon Austin. Dallas was cooking with gasoline.

I don't think Landon Collins has deep cover responsibility on the long touchdown. The FS rotates over into a cover 1 shell. I think Collins is either a spy on the play (Dak or Zeke) or he has short-intermediate zone responsibility. In which case, he's still in perfect position.

 

[HungryLion]

And after that, he threw for 80 total yards the next three and a half quarters.

God forbid somebody talks about one of the things Dak does well right?

Jesus dude.

 

[erod]

God forbid somebody talks about one of the things Dak does well right?

Jesus dude.

Dak does a lot of things right. I just don't think his arm abilities are going to get much better than this.

 

[Blake]

And after that, he threw for 80 total yards the next three and a half quarters.

Executed a flawless late 4th quarter drive to seal the game. You should do yourself a favor and not immediately chime in on every Dak thread that has a positive slant. It just shows how emotionally insecure and fragile you really are.