Dak's Contract - again

[Rockport]

In the most literal sense, sure. I don't think there is anyone here who will ditch the Cowboys when Dak is gone.

There are definitely people here who, when it comes to analyzing the games, choose to blame everything but Dak for the bad and give Dak all the credit for the good.

That's the context I've always taken the Dak over Dallas references in.

And then there’s you who put ALL of the blame on 1 person of a 53 man team with no blame for anyone else including the coaching. Dak was an All Pro 2 years ago. He’s not elite, but he’s a damn good QB and why Jerry overpaid to keep him.

 

[KJJ]

I didn't say a veteran from another team was guaranteed to yield ideal results during an interim period, I just said I didn't think Cooper Rush was likely to be the guy they went with to do that if they had chosen to let Dak walk.

As for Fields, you are mixing arguments. Sure the Cowboys may not have wanted to use a 1st round pick on a QB in 2021, but if that was the case that wouldn't have necessitated sticking with Rush as the started. Again, that's where they could have gone with a more proven veteran for a year or two. The fact there was no guarantee a year or two would find them a franchise QB doesn't change the fact that it wouldn't have had to be Rush taking the reins until they did.

The most likely scenario had they allowed Dak to walk after the 2020 season would have been to sign a veteran castoff and had them compete with Rush. There’s no assurances they would have beat out Rush. Will Greer had some starting experience when he came to Dallas and couldn’t beat him out. The same with Trey Lance, he couldn’t beat him out. No assurances Tyler Huntley or Taylor Heinicke could have beat him out. Jerry has already been through trying to bridge the gap with a veteran castoff during the early 2000s.

We missed the playoffs with Vinny and Bledsoe. You’re in a sad situation when you’re bringing in QBs that have been kicked to the curb, trying to find someone to bridge the damn gap. Again, look at the Giants, Steelers and Jets. Allowing Dak to walk after the 2020 season would have left us in a tough situation. It’s always possible we would have forced a pick in the draft to try and replace him. We might have ended up with Mac Jones who went three spots after Parsons.

We would have been screwed with him. Nothing good would have come from letting Dak walk after the 2020 season. It’s not like we didn’t have some good teams after he signed that contract. We had three straight 12 win seasons, and won a playoff game. That’s certainly not the goal, but it could’ve and probably would’ve gone a lot worse without him.

 

[KingCorcoran]

We should have waited to see how last season played out first, which is the biggest mistake in this whole equation. I don't think the 4 year contract length was that big of a deal there is also 4 dummy years to spread out cap hit restructures. The no trade/no franchise clause was a big leverage play for Dak, but understand why players want that. The other part that makes this a difficult contract to work around is that next year's salary becomes guaranteed a year in advance through the first few years which forces the Cowboys to make a decision early, which makes it hard to move off the contract if they desired. It was a smart structure from Dak and his agent.

Players may want a no trade clause, but only eight have them. All quarterbacks, four of which have been to a Super Bowl, two of those have won a Super Bowl. It was not necessary to give to Dak. Then again $60 million per season pretty much makes him un-tradeable, some guess it didn’t matter.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

And you'd rather see Dak get spanked and we lose, than we win any games. What a piece of work....

Of course I would.

Get Dak out of Dallas and a high draft pick.

I will continue to say the things you want to say but won't because ya gotta keep up appearaces to your Dak buds.

 

[KJJ]

Could care less about that ...... it is already a distant memory at accomplishing anything in it.

We have a spot to get rid of him in 2027 ....... let him sit in the tub until then ........ maybe we could get rid of Dak and Jerry that year.

How could you care less about the playoffs? That’s the first step to reaching a Super Bowl. If you’re not making the playoffs, you’re sitting home and that’s a lot worse than making the playoffs and losing. The playoffs give you a chance. If he struggles this season and it leads to a bad year, we’re likely to start seriously looking for a QB in the draft next April. If we start seeing signs he’s regressing we have to prepare. He’s coming off a serious injury and we don’t know what that might do to his game. He may run less this season or be even more apprehensive to run. He may have lost another step. That’s not going to help his game if his mobility is limited.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

The Cowboys being successful or Dak getting every penny he can from Jerry?

Which do you prefer?

You've asked this same question in multiple threads trying to bait people into a "gotcha" type of answer... its not gonna happen... let it go.

We've already concluded in the other thread, that you don't want the team to be successful. Not wanting the team to build or even try this year made others look at you funny.

So, go ahead and keep claiming that you're a "team" guy and others as "Dak>team"...

WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU!

 

[leeblair]

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/cowboys-overshot-market-5-million-025335537.html

Since it is that time of summer when nothing is going on so why not another thread on Dak's contract?

This article points out what I have been saying since the deal was announced. Jerry gave Dak the worse possible contract from the team's perspective. It's $5 million more per year than what it should be. It comes with a no trade clause and a no franchise tag clause - and it is only 4 years making it more difficult of spread out the bonus money and restructures.

There was no need to do this deal with Dak. At some point a smart team sees that the player's demands far exceed his performance value and they decide to move on. Jerry really struggles assessing a player's value.

But it is also important to note that Jerry gave away all his leverage with Dak's previous contract. He never should have agreed to a no trade clause. But that is still no excuse. Sure Dallas could have lost Dak to free agency, but is overpaying him by at least $5 million per year worth keeping him?

I also dislike the argument that were are no alternatives. I do agree finding a QB is hard in the NFL. We've been down that path before. But maybe the alternative is to do something different. Build a strong defense. Build a strong running game. Find a game manager and let him keep the team in games while you continue the search for the next franchise guy. At some point Dak will be retiring anyway. At some point they will have to start a new QB search. Better now than to be handcuffed by a contracts worth well more than the QB you are playing.

It's $70 million dollars higher per year than it should have been, and it's pretty easy to find a quarterback who is better than Dak.
The Cowboys could have spent better money and had Russell Wilson or Sam Darnold. Before that they could've had several top rated quarterbacks.
And now it would be worth more to the Cowboys to sit Dak and eat the money they paid him than it will be make him play.
Dak Prescott's contract finished off any hope of America's Team returning.
Now it's officially a circus.

 

[805BoysInBlue]

This has been posted already

 

[Ranching]

Of course I would.

Get Dak out of Dallas and a high draft pick.

I will continue to say the things you want to say but won't because ya gotta keep up appearaces to your Dak buds.

I don't need to hide behind your skirt. You're a hypocrite, say your a fan and want them to lose, because you don't like Dak. I don't like you and I'm still here, I don't wish you break your neck, just don't like you, that's it. Hate Dak all you want, he's not all that, but dam right, I want him to win. He wins, we all win , except for you and your cult followers. Some of which will probably come to your defense in a few minutes. Lol! Bring em on.....bunch of whiners! Lol

 

[Rockport]

It's $70 million dollars higher per year than it should have been, and it's pretty easy to find a quarterback who is better than Dak.
The Cowboys could have spent better money and had Russell Wilson or Sam Darnold. Before that they could've had several top rated quarterbacks.
And now it would be worth more to the Cowboys to sit Dak and eat the money they paid him than it will be make him play.
Dak Prescott's contract finished off any hope of America's Team returning.
Now it's officially a circus.

It’s 60 mil per year. Do your research before sticking foot in mouth. Again.

 

[Rockport]

I don't need to hide behind your skirt. You're a hypocrite, say your a fan and want them to lose, because you don't like Dak. I don't like you and I'm still here, I don't wish you break your neck, just don't like you, that's it. Hate Dak all you want, he's not all that, but dam right, I want him to win. He wins, we all win , except for you and your cult followers. Some of which will probably come to your defense in a few minutes. Lol! Bring em on.....bunch of whiners! Lol

 

[ShortRound]

This is a tired repetitive thread. My god!! Again?

Welcome to Cowboyszone lol.

 

[Rockport]

Last season was the year to start over.

Jerry doesn’t want to start over. Hence the new deal.

What’s even more irritating about it. He led the entire fan base to believe he was going to let Dak play out his contract and leave. Then signed him after all the FAs were gone. Same with lamb. It’s all a “soap opera 365 days a year”

That’s a direct quote from his upcoming documentary by the way.

That’s going to be a must watch. I love the music in the trailer.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I don't need to hide behind your skirt. You're a hypocrite, say your a fan and want them to lose, because you don't like Dak. I don't like you and I'm still here, I don't wish you break your neck, just don't like you, that's it. Hate Dak all you want, he's not all that, but dam right, I want him to win. He wins, we all win , except for you and your cult followers. Some of which will probably come to your defense in a few minutes. Lol! Bring em on.....bunch of whiners! Lol

Your wants don't make Dak talented.

It's okay, Ranch. I'll continue to be your voice.

 

[OGSixshooter]

At least one of Dak’s fans admitted on here (I have the bookmark) that they would rather Dak be paid than the Cowboys be able to compete.

I know who that is! TheGaslightingContinues...

 

[leeblair]

It’s 60 mil per year. Do your research before sticking foot in mouth. Again.

I know what it is.
He should be paying the Cowboys $10 million per year for wasting their season over and over again!
He wastes a roster spot every season!
And I knew you'd fall for it.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I don't need to hide behind your skirt. You're a hypocrite, say your a fan and want them to lose, because you don't like Dak. I don't like you and I'm still here, I don't wish you break your neck, just don't like you, that's it. Hate Dak all you want, he's not all that, but dam right, I want him to win. He wins, we all win , except for you and your cult followers. Some of which will probably come to your defense in a few minutes. Lol! Bring em on.....bunch of whiners! Lol

There is no cult. And it’s not the $60 million per year. Prescott’s contract is a constant reminder that Jerry Jones is not a good GM in the contemporary NFL. That’s what fans resent. Pretending such is not the case annoys real fans even more.

Another team in the Cowboys’ division goes to two and wins a Super Bowl with a quarterback that isn’t as highly regarded as Prescott and Cowboys fans are left with the knowledge the team’s owner peels off $60 million AAV to Dak and so is obviously too stupid to build a roster that can compete for a Super Bowl. Pollyanna Cowboys fans whine when another fan shows their disdain.

It’s not Dak Prescott. It’s what he represents. Real fans are honest about it. What everyone really hates is that MoutaineerCowboy is right. It’s every Cowboys fans’ cross to bear.

 

[GINeric]

Correction - finding a QB who brings the Rodges, Brady, Mahomes skillset to the table is hard to find. Finding someone to replicate what Dak does isn't as hard. If you consider a scale where you have the low end equal to Sam Darnold and the high end being Brady as the GOAT - Dak Prescott falls in between those two and can be argued that he is closer to Darnold than Brady in terms of skill and what he brings to the table.

Finding a quarterback who brings Brady and Mahomes skillset is hard to find, but you said finding a quarterback that brings Rodgers skillset to the table is hard to find?

No it's not.

Nick Foles and Trent Dilfer accomplished the same amount of Superbowl success as Rodgers. Eli Manning has more Superbowl success than Rodgers.

Rodgers has one Superbowl tied to his name. So I can't say what he brings to the table is hard to find.

 

[GINeric]

There should be daily reminders that Jerry handed out the 2nd worst contract in NFL history.

While we all agree that Dak shouldn't have gotten that contract....

You keep saying that Dak has the 2nd worst contract in NFL history. So I did some research of the worst contracts in NFL history and I didn't see Dak's contract on there.

The only contracts I've seen classified as the 2nd worst in history was either Albert Haynesworth, Nnamdi Asomugha, or Russell Wilson's Denver Broncos contract. I have not seen one single list state that Dak had the 2nd worst in NFL history. All of the lists I've seen had DeSean Watson as the worst.

Do you have a link or other sites who you've seen Dak listed as the 2nd worst because I haven't seen his contract listed in the top in the NFL's worst contracts.

Again, we all agree that Dak shouldn't have gotten that contract but im trying to understand where you got the "2nd worst NFL contract" from. Link?

 

[Rockport]

I know what it is.
He should be paying the Cowboys $10 million per year for wasting their season over and over again!
He wastes a roster spot every season!
And I knew you'd fall for it.

Sure you did. Just trying to cover your ***.