Dak's Contract screwed us!

[thunderpimp91]

They will have around 100 million in cap space.

Even if they do take that route and choose to free up that type of space I'm not sure it really helps all that much. It pushes a lot of cap into future years, which you need to acquire impact free agents who want multi year deals. Opening up that much cap space also means they are likely losing multiple current starters which just means additional holes on the roster to fill. Not that its not necessarily a good thing as there are some legitimate candidates to be cut/replaced, but the combo of dead cap + new acquisitions is unlikely to really do much. For example they can save around $9M by cutting Steele after this year, but look at free agent prices. Jonah Williams who is probably comparable to steele (both mid 20s, injury history, up and down play throughout their careers) received $15M per year on the open market, so you're likely paying more for a new face with similar production at certain positions.

What the Cowboys really need the rest of the year is to see what they have in younger players. Asim Richards would be a guy I want to see get some snaps. Mingo/Flournoy need some snaps. TJ Bass probably need some snaps, although thats a tricky one. I'd let Deuce be the primary backup to Dowdle. I'd mix in Bell/Thomas as Saftey to get more looks. Some of these guys showing promise the is one thing that could help the Cowboys from realistically needing a multi year style rebuild.

I hate to be this pessimistic on the Cowboys, but its just set up horrible right now. They need to shift focus to player development, but they have a coaching staff likely on the way out who certainly wont be making that their top priority.

 

[blueblood70]

What do we have? Diggs, and Lamb are the only building blocks we have.

First of all let everybody else tell you how wrong you are we have plenty of cap space the problem is the way our front office utilize the cap space other teams have the same issues at quarterback making a **** ton of money and they're not doing anything in the playoffs either they're not that dynamic and yet they build around and they have two good wide receivers like in Philadelphia but they're paying jalen hurts they're paying Dallas at tight end they found a way to keep the train rolling we have a lot of money in cap space so keep reading why everyone bashes your head in for saying what you said but listen to that statement above which is 100% wrong and this is a small list we have plenty more to talk about but I'm not doing it with you because I have a feeling you and me and my patients they don't match so I'll be blocking you soon that is just a terrible statement you're clueless you're a sheep you're basically just muttering and parroting what other people have said around the Internet and not realizing we have a lot of cap space that's just how our front office is unwilling to use it but we will see this offseason maybe a new coaching staff will open up his wallet and get some better free agents and some better replacements this year but here's a little list to start with and there are more...

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Easy add In BeeBee, Tyler smith, I still like Furgy in Better offense, maybe Osa, but Overshown, bland, Liafu, possibly Kneeland, and Parsons( that's right he's still a key piece regardless of what you think about his mouth and it was obvious in the last game him playing he's still a building block if you don't think so again everything I said is still true with overshone so big difference add a little more talent and he's still key here he still a building block if you don....again everything i said is still true) to name few more.

I mean you want to allow the rookies to develop a little bit before like 2024's rookie class...???

I think has some good players in it that we need to let develop, I already mentioned a couple but we're writing guys off and then we can add in just for good measure I like Thomas and bell.. I also like Hoffman and bass to develop along that offensive line Guyton is definitely not a lost because I mean come on dude, we're eight games into a rookie season, and this guy is saying we don't have anybody but that two,

I mean what's are you watching, the hate train and the casual fan opinions are in full effect. Don't you have a bridge to patrol, troll?

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

First of all let everybody else tell you how wrong you are we have plenty of cap space the problem is the way our front office utilize the cap space other teams have the same issues at quarterback making a **** ton of money and they're not doing anything in the playoffs either they're not that dynamic and yet they build around and they have two good wide receivers like in Philadelphia but they're paying jalen hurts they're paying Dallas at tight end they found a way to keep the train rolling we have a lot of money in cap space so keep reading why everyone bashes your head in for saying what you said but listen to that statement above which is 100% wrong and this is a small list we have plenty more to talk about but I'm not doing it with you because I have a feeling you and me and my patients they don't match so I'll be blocking you soon that is just a terrible statement you're clueless you're a sheep you're basically just muttering and parroting what other people have said around the Internet and not realizing we have a lot of cap space that's just how our front office is unwilling to use it but we will see this offseason maybe a new coaching staff will open up his wallet and get some better free agents and some better replacements this year but here's a little list to start with and there are more...

.
Easy add In BeeBee, Tyler smith, I still like Furgy in Better offense, maybe Osa, but Overshown, bland, Liafu, possibly Kneeland, and Parsons( that's right he's still a key piece regardless of what you think about his mouth and it was obvious in the last game him playing he's still a building block if you don't think so again everything I said is still true with overshone so big difference add a little more talent and he's still key here he still a building block if you don....again everything i said is still true) to name few more.

I mean you want to allow the rookies to develop a little bit before like 2024's rookie class...???

I think has some good players in it that we need to let develop, I already mentioned a couple but we're writing guys off and then we can add in just for good measure I like Thomas and bell.. I also like Hoffman and bass to develop along that offensive line Guyton is definitely not a lost because I mean come on dude, we're eight games into a rookie season, and this guy is saying we don't have anybody but that two,

I mean what's are you watching, the hate train and the casual fan opinions are in full effect. Don't you have a bridge to patrol, troll?

Bolding and changing font size isn’t going to make anyone read the mindless books you post.

 

[CelticCowboy]

He should never have got his contract , his performances in play off games has proven he isn’t elite and never will be!

 

[Cmac]

Dak's Contract screwed us!

I have been a Dak fan an supported him overall, yet his new contract is so dumb (dumb, dumb, dumb). Let him play it out and then sign him if he does something.

Seriously, We sacrificed drafting a QB in the top 10 and actually having options or being forced to ride with him for the next 3 years with hard cap hits. Parsons and his big mouth, No OL help, No RB help, no DL to stop the run, and hoping a new coach in the next 2 years wants to even try.

What do we have? Diggs, and Lamb are the only building blocks we have.

I am sad, and never have I been this down on the team.

Again, I was never a Dak hater and still not, but you don't extend him.

I have a car loan right now. I would not re-finance it unless the interest allows me to pay it off sooner without sacrificing the age of the loan.

Let me guess.....you'd turn down a pay raise. As it appears market value or going rate wouldn't be in the equation for such a pay raise for you, on a job.

Anyway, are you going to discount the owner taking longer than necessary, to reduce even the market value later? Same with Cee Dee's contract.

Are you going to believe that Jerry would have granted something decent to replace Dak? He didn't do such with the running game or any other weakness (Kendricks?).
I'd suggest simply admitting you don't like Dak (for any other reason, including non-football).

To sooth your opinion and continuing opinions by others about Dak's contract, here you go:
Hmmm....now what's wrong with these two smiling after being paid?
It's been done before......yet without venom. Hmmm, again.

 

[fivetwos]

Which is just needed rollover money for next year since they're already one of the top cap hits in the league for 2025. You can't spend $25M this time of year. Next year is when the Dak extension actually starts, but you have $291M in cap hits for a $240M extension. The contract and equally as important Jerry's handling of the contracts has been horrible for this team.

I ask you to please correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems as if they push major cap hits down the road…a strategy used by other teams to try to field a winner in the immediate. These two seem to do the former without the latter taking place.

How is that ever supposed to add up? The “oblong ball bouncing the right way” for three more playoffs games in one season?

Honestly the only explanation I can find for the lack of any apparent plan that makes sense is that there isn’t one. Not one about winning football anyway. It’s about collecting stars and marketing.

Don’t misread my tone, not directed at you.

 

[rambo2]

Even if they do take that route and choose to free up that type of space I'm not sure it really helps all that much. It pushes a lot of cap into future years, which you need to acquire impact free agents who want multi year deals. Opening up that much cap space also means they are likely losing multiple current starters which just means additional holes on the roster to fill. Not that its not necessarily a good thing as there are some legitimate candidates to be cut/replaced, but the combo of dead cap + new acquisitions is unlikely to really do much. For example they can save around $9M by cutting Steele after this year, but look at free agent prices. Jonah Williams who is probably comparable to steele (both mid 20s, injury history, up and down play throughout their careers) received $15M per year on the open market, so you're likely paying more for a new face with similar production at certain positions.

What the Cowboys really need the rest of the year is to see what they have in younger players. Asim Richards would be a guy I want to see get some snaps. Mingo/Flournoy need some snaps. TJ Bass probably need some snaps, although thats a tricky one. I'd let Deuce be the primary backup to Dowdle. I'd mix in Bell/Thomas as Saftey to get more looks. Some of these guys showing promise the is one thing that could help the Cowboys from realistically needing a multi year style rebuild.

I hate to be this pessimistic on the Cowboys, but its just set up horrible right now. They need to shift focus to player development, but they have a coaching staff likely on the way out who certainly wont be making that their top priority.

We will have to see what happens. The 1st thing is to lose out and get the number 1 position in the draft. The 2nd thing is to take the keys away from grandpa.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I ask you to please correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems as if they push major cap hits down the road…a strategy used by other teams to try to field a winner in the immediate. These two seem to do the former without the latter taking place.

How is that ever supposed to add up? The “oblong ball bouncing the right way” for three more playoffs games in one season?

Honestly the only explanation I can find for the lack of any apparent plan that makes sense is that there isn’t one. Not one about winning football anyway. It’s about collecting stars and marketing.

Don’t misread my tone, not directed at you.

I think you're spot on in your assessment. Jerry talks all the time about hanging around the rim and thats really what he has built this team to be over the years.....A really solid team with enough star power to look elite at times, but really isn't a serious championship contender. This year the frugalness and overconfidence in his ability to outsmart the rest of the league with bargain draft picks and UDFAs has caught up to him.

The issue we face right now is we dont have many players that make for good risks on kicking cap hits down the road. Lamb is probably a good option. Dak while they are probably forced to restructure in 2025 his deal you need to be careful with how much money you kick into future years, both due to how much money he makes as well as his age. This is the piece that worries me about the Cowboys ability to rebuild this roster quicky. A lot of people seem to think the Cowboys have a lot of money they can open up for next season, and in theory they are right, but I see this as simply keeping the Cowboys in mediocrity or worse for the next several years. Currently they are already the 7th highest cap number for 2025, 16 for 2026, 9 in 2027, and 5 in 2028. Now a lot of that will change as time goes on, but they already are at a disadvantage compared to the rest of the league for future years and still have several big names to lock up in Parsons, Bland, Smith, Ferg, Overshown, etc. over the next two offseasons. Moving current cap to future years just ensures that we mostly sit out free agency and remain draft dependent for quite a while, unless we see Jerry actually look to make a proactive move like trading a Micah Parsons.

 

[blueblood70]

Ding! Ding! Ding!!
It's not Dak, it's not Romo, its not MM, it wasn't Garrett. We haven't been to the NFC Championship since the freakin 90s!!! Before Jerry forced Landry and then Jimmy out, the NFC Championship was almost a given!
It's JERRY people!!! Stop blaming the latest scapegoat. It's freakin Jerry Jones!!

That was close but no you struck out bro you almost had it but when you say that somehow Landry was forced out Landry was already losing Jimmy Johnson was a great hire therefore that neutralizes your first half of your sentence I'm sorry dude Jimmy Johnson did not get forced out it was a mutual decision but let me drop some more knowledge on you this dude's not Bill Belichick Jimmy Johnson is like bill Parcells they literally not stay around long to get bored and I promise you the team was already in deterioration in 1996 I promise you this and I don't care what you say or what you come back is Jimmy Johnson was not gonna stay and he would not have been anymore successful past 1998 than anybody else we had here he was not interested in rebuilding the team he didn't do anything in Miami and he went off into what he wants to do most is retire fish on his boat and then stay active in the media just enough that he can stay close to the game.

I'm going to put this in bold letters, Jimmy Johnson would not have won any more games than Barry switzer Barry switzer took Jimmy's team as far as you could then the team deteriorated they got old they got hurt they started retiring they started getting cut and he would have left anyway probably after 1996 but let me give you till 1998 but there was not gonna be much more winning here he was going to leave anyway he said it it was mutual and I guarantee we have as many Super Bowls as we would have even if Jimmy was not out after the last Super Bowl he would've won one of the other two Super Bowls just like switzer and that would have been it the rest of it's gonna be the same how do you think it would be any different? I'm really tired of the false narrative that's been spread around here for years that he was forced out he embarrassed his boss he said some bad things he chose not to apologize they parted mutually but he would not have won any more Super Bowls it would not have been staying here very much longer than he did he said it he said that things over the years but none of you wanna listen 'cause .... if jimmy would have stayed till 1998...

Jimmy Johnson was not going to be a long term committed head coach he wanted out he was going for a new challenge he truly probably wants to be A GM just like bill Parcells never got the chance to be a true GM and they both retired when they wanted to they both almost never stayed past five years with most of their teams..

The NFL changed drastically soon after they left they would've never had the opportunity to rebuild another winner not in your eyes not the way fans really believe it is you guys live in a fantasy world he was leaving anyway we got the Super bowls out of the teams he built that was the Max and he was going to be out anyway so yeah few years earlier doesn't matter switzer carried them into another championship game and with the players screwed that game up they fumble and threw interceptions they got behind 21 points you're trying to tell me that if Jimmy Johnson was here the players don't make mistakes you're again living in a fantasy world so again we would have won one of those two Super Bowls and then the team almost off a Cliff changed overnight they were all gone it was never gonna be long term most coaches do not stay that long with their teams even if it's successful Bill Belichick is an anomaly so is Pete over with San Francisco this was never going to happen.

It was not a forced out it was a mutual decision because if Jimmy wanted to stay here he could have stayed he shouldn't have had that drunk moment in the bar it embarrasses boss after that they decided to part ways but you don't talk to your boss that way and not be expected to have to pay for it I'm sorry but it's set up just like a business just like a corporation and you just tried to embarrass your owner your boss it was never going to go further than that so if you think you can go spit on your boss at a party basically call him out and the next day not expect when you come into work you're getting called into the office and if you don't apologize you're probably going to be looking for a new job that's the reality he made his own bet he created the situation and when he did so they mutually parted ways it was not a force out all he had to do was not say what he said or apologize for it he chose not to that's his choice that's not a force out....

 

[fivetwos]

I think you're spot on in your assessment. Jerry talks all the time about hanging around the rim and thats really what he has built this team to be over the years.....A really solid team with enough star power to look elite at times, but really isn't a serious championship contender. This year the frugalness and overconfidence in his ability to outsmart the rest of the league with bargain draft picks and UDFAs has caught up to him.

The issue we face right now is we dont have many players that make for good risks on kicking cap hits down the road. Lamb is probably a good option. Dak while they are probably forced to restructure in 2025 his deal you need to be careful with how much money you kick into future years, both due to how much money he makes as well as his age. This is the piece that worries me about the Cowboys ability to rebuild this roster quicky. A lot of people seem to think the Cowboys have a lot of money they can open up for next season, and in theory they are right, but I see this as simply keeping the Cowboys in mediocrity or worse for the next several years. Currently they are already the 7th highest cap number for 2025, 16 for 2026, 9 in 2027, and 5 in 2028. Now a lot of that will change as time goes on, but they already are at a disadvantage compared to the rest of the league for future years and still have several big names to lock up in Parsons, Bland, Smith, Ferg, Overshown, etc. over the next two offseasons. Moving current cap to future years just ensures that we mostly sit out free agency and remain draft dependent for quite a while, unless we see Jerry actually look to make a proactive move like trading a Micah Parsons.

Cap space is volatile and can always be found. Stephen admitted this about a decade ago when he said “cap space always makes me chuckle.”

How many times was it reported that when the Saints had Brees on the books that they were an obnoxious number over the cap? However they were still adding players….they at least took their shots, and that flag they hoisted is never coming down.

I’m not at all advocating to do what the Rams did to win…it was short lived and came very close to not happening, but there are windows under which to win that close quickly, and likely without success if you refuse take a shot at getting over the top while there under some ridiculous premise that you’ll avoid a down period in this league otherwise. 2021-2024 was a real shot and they blew it.

Having true and actual cap space without future inevitable dead money means you don’t have enough good players to win anyway.

 

[fivetwos]

That was close but no you struck out bro you almost had it but when you say that somehow Landry was forced out Landry was already losing Jimmy Johnson was a great hire therefore that neutralizes your first half of your sentence I'm sorry dude Jimmy Johnson did not get forced out it was a mutual decision but let me drop some more knowledge on you this dude's not Bill Belichick Jimmy Johnson is like bill Parcells they literally not stay around long to get bored and I promise you the team was already in deterioration in 1996 I promise you this and I don't care what you say or what you come back is Jimmy Johnson was not gonna stay and he would not have been anymore successful past 1998 than anybody else we had here he was not interested in rebuilding the team he didn't do anything in Miami and he went off into what he wants to do most is retire fish on his boat and then stay active in the media just enough that he can stay close to the game.

I'm going to put this in bold letters, Jimmy Johnson would not have won any more games than Barry switzer Barry switzer took Jimmy's team as far as you could then the team deteriorated they got old they got hurt they started retiring they started getting cut and he would have left anyway probably after 1996 but let me give you till 1998 but there was not gonna be much more winning here he was going to leave anyway he said it it was mutual and I guarantee we have as many Super Bowls as we would have even if Jimmy was not out after the last Super Bowl he would've won one of the other two Super Bowls just like switzer and that would have been it the rest of it's gonna be the same how do you think it would be any different? I'm really tired of the false narrative that's been spread around here for years that he was forced out he embarrassed his boss he said some bad things he chose not to apologize they parted mutually but he would not have won any more Super Bowls it would not have been staying here very much longer than he did he said it he said that things over the years but none of you wanna listen 'cause .... if jimmy would have stayed till 1998...

Jimmy Johnson was not going to be a long term committed head coach he wanted out he was going for a new challenge he truly probably wants to be A GM just like bill Parcells never got the chance to be a true GM and they both retired when they wanted to they both almost never stayed past five years with most of their teams..

The NFL changed drastically soon after they left they would've never had the opportunity to rebuild another winner not in your eyes not the way fans really believe it is you guys live in a fantasy world he was leaving anyway we got the Super bowls out of the teams he built that was the Max and he was going to be out anyway so yeah few years earlier doesn't matter switzer carried them into another championship game and with the players screwed that game up they fumble and threw interceptions they got behind 21 points you're trying to tell me that if Jimmy Johnson was here the players don't make mistakes you're again living in a fantasy world so again we would have won one of those two Super Bowls and then the team almost off a Cliff changed overnight they were all gone it was never gonna be long term most coaches do not stay that long with their teams even if it's successful Bill Belichick is an anomaly so is Pete over with San Francisco this was never going to happen.

It was not a forced out it was a mutual decision because if Jimmy wanted to stay here he could have stayed he shouldn't have had that drunk moment in the bar it embarrasses boss after that they decided to part ways but you don't talk to your boss that way and not be expected to have to pay for it I'm sorry but it's set up just like a business just like a corporation and you just tried to embarrass your owner your boss it was never going to go further than that so if you think you can go spit on your boss at a party basically call him out and the next day not expect when you come into work you're getting called into the office and if you don't apologize you're probably going to be looking for a new job that's the reality he made his own bet he created the situation and when he did so they mutually parted ways it was not a force out all he had to do was not say what he said or apologize for it he chose not to that's his choice that's not a force out....

I’m going to actually agree with this one.

I’m not of the belief that they win more Super Bowls if Johnson hung around longer.

They don’t not commit those turnovers if Johnson is on the sidelines instead of Switzer.

And yeah, the roster was in serious decline by nature by 1996. That’s how the league is set up, something Jerry and his kid seem to not want to understand. There’s gonna be down years after good ones. Play them correctly instead of trying the be deceptive. Not a lot to ask.

Also, Coach Tom Landry is my idol, while Id blame all of the worlds problems on Jerry Jones if I could….and yeah I supposed he “forced” Coach out, but it was the right move at the time and I agreed with it. I could be wrong but I think Jerry has expressed regret over the way it was handled.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Cap space is volatile and can always be found. Stephen admitted this about a decade ago when he said “cap space always makes me chuckle.”

How many times was it reported that when the Saints had Brees on the books that they were an obnoxious number over the cap? However they were still adding players….they at least took their shots, and that flag they hoisted is never coming down.

I’m not at all advocating to do what the Rams did to win…it was short lived and came very close to not happening, but there are windows under which to win that close quickly, and likely without success if you refuse take a shot at getting over the top while there under some ridiculous premise that you’ll avoid a down period in this league otherwise. 2021-2024 was a real shot and they blew it.

Having true and actual cap space without future inevitable dead money means you don’t have enough good players to win anyway.

I'll disagree with you here slightly. Personally I would rather see this team either go full Rams style all in for a year, or truly take a rebuild/cap reset season. Well i guess to clarify i think last offseason was the one to go all in on, this year I think they have too much of a hill to climb for that to be realistic.

I think its true you can always find cap space, but thats a game that will catch up to teams as well. Even New Orleans like you mentioned has been in cap purgatory ever since Brees left. At least when they had an elite QB they could overcome some of that. Currently they keep pushing out cap hits, but have been 9-8, 7-10, now 9-8, and currently 3-7 since then and is looking to have to cut about $70M in cap space just to get under the cap for 2025. They've simply refused to take their medicine to start building and its caught up to them. This is sort of the future I think the Cowboys are looking at if they continue with the same roster construction philosophy. Philly is another one that does great work with the cap, but its about to catch up to them, probably in 2026, but they got multiple super bowl runs out of it and have at least a competitive team this year. They have a little more flexibility because they signed their QB while still on a rookie deal so it was essentially a 6 year deal at time of signing, and hes only on his 2nd contract.

I think you can overcome a lot of issues with the cap, but years and years of poor decisions will catch up to a franchise.

 

[calicowboy54]

Dak's Contract screwed us!

I have been a Dak fan an supported him overall, yet his new contract is so dumb (dumb, dumb, dumb). Let him play it out and then sign him if he does something.

Seriously, We sacrificed drafting a QB in the top 10 and actually having options or being forced to ride with him for the next 3 years with hard cap hits. Parsons and his big mouth, No OL help, No RB help, no DL to stop the run, and hoping a new coach in the next 2 years wants to even try.

What do we have? Diggs, and Lamb are the only building blocks we have.

I am sad, and never have I been this down on the team.

Again, I was never a Dak hater and still not, but you don't extend him.

I have a car loan right now. I would not re-finance it unless the interest allows me to pay it off sooner without sacrificing the age of the loan.

i've been die hard fan for 30+ years and this year i've watch 2 games. its just not worth my blood pressure and health to be invested anymore when it will cause me frustration. I've started watching other teams but not as invested in them obviously. College football and my kids Traveling Soccer have taken my time now.

 

[blueblood70]

Let me guess.....you'd turn down a pay raise. As it appears market value or going rate wouldn't be in the equation for such a pay raise for you, on a job.

Anyway, are you going to discount the owner taking longer than necessary, to reduce even the market value later? Same with Cee Dee's contract.

Are you going to believe that Jerry would have granted something decent to replace Dak? He didn't do such with the running game or any other weakness (Kendricks?).
I'd suggest simply admitting you don't like Dak (for any other reason, including non-football).

To sooth your opinion and continuing opinions by others about Dak's contract, here you go:
Hmmm....now what's wrong with these two smiling after being paid?
It's been done before......yet without venom. Hmmm, again.

add TUA, WATSON, Murray, Wilson(2023) ,Jones, Herbert, Rogers, cousins, hurts, and too some extent allen and LJ i mean they have yet to go to or win a SB..all PAID IN THE SAME ZIP CODE

would you like me to go over the difference in some of their teams is the GM and the coaching staff the only person who's gotten paid and kept winning would be Patrick mahomes he won a Super Bowl with a rookie contract and after literally getting paid big money he's the only one who allegedly in the world of fans that fans live in a delusional world he's the only one who lives up to expectations if the expectation is you have to win Super Bowls or at least regularly get to them then how are all these other guys highly paid but if you look at like Philadelphia they made the Super bowl but they want it with a backup quarterback because the team was good enough but jalen hurts did not do it by himself and his defense let him down in that Super Bowl and he was playing Patrick mahomes but this team still gave him two wide receivers a tight end and now a dynamic running back they're not complaining about the money this guy is ridiculous apparently he's not looking around a lot of teams are gonna pay their quarterbacks or already have in the same zip code in area code as that got paid and by the way anybody who thinks that wouldn't have had at least five offers in the offseason for around the same money or more to leave the Dallas Cowboys he would've got paid one way or the other cause teams value a top five to top ten quarterb....use they're the hardest thing to find...

 

[blueblood70]

Dak's Contract screwed us!

I have been a Dak fan an supported him overall, yet his new contract is so dumb (dumb, dumb, dumb). Let him play it out and then sign him if he does something.

Seriously, We sacrificed drafting a QB in the top 10 and actually having options or being forced to ride with him for the next 3 years with hard cap hits. Parsons and his big mouth, No OL help, No RB help, no DL to stop the run, and hoping a new coach in the next 2 years wants to even try.

What do we have? Diggs, and Lamb are the only building blocks we have.

I am sad, and never have I been this down on the team.

Again, I was never a Dak hater and still not, but you don't extend him.

I have a car loan right now. I would not re-finance it unless the interest allows me to pay it off sooner without sacrificing the age of the loan.

WRONG
add LAWERENCE, TUA, WATSON, Murray, Wilson(2023) ,Jones, Herbert, Rogers, cousins, hurts, and too some extent allen , burrows,,and LJ i mean they have yet to go to or win a SB..all PAID IN THE SAME ZIP CODE

would you like me to go over the difference in some of their teams is the GM and the coaching staff the only person who's gotten paid and kept winning would be Patrick mahomes he won a Super Bowl with a rookie contract and after literally getting paid big money he's the only one who allegedly in the world of fans that fans live in a delusional world he's the only one who lives up to expectations if the expectation is you have to win Super Bowls or at least regularly get to them then how are all these other guys highly paid but if you look at like Philadelphia they made the Super bowl but they want it with a backup quarterback because the team was good enough but jalen hurts did not do it by himself and his defense let him down in that Super Bowl and he was playing Patrick mahomes but this team still gave him two wide receivers a tight end and now a dynamic running back they're not complaining about the money this guy is ridiculous apparently he's not looking around a lot of teams are gonna pay their quarterbacks or already have in the same zip code in area code as that got paid and by the way anybody who thinks that wouldn't have had at least five offers in the offseason for around the same money or more to leave the Dallas Cowboys he would've got paid one way or the other cause teams value a top five to top ten quarterback as they're the hardest thing to find...

 

[big dog cowboy]

Personally I would rather see this team either go full Rams style all in for a year

Jerry isn't wired that way.

 

[fivetwos]

I'll disagree with you here slightly. Personally I would rather see this team either go full Rams style all in for a year, or truly take a rebuild/cap reset season. Well i guess to clarify i think last offseason was the one to go all in on, this year I think they have too much of a hill to climb for that to be realistic.

I think its true you can always find cap space, but thats a game that will catch up to teams as well. Even New Orleans like you mentioned has been in cap purgatory ever since Brees left. At least when they had an elite QB they could overcome some of that. Currently they keep pushing out cap hits, but have been 9-8, 7-10, now 9-8, and currently 3-7 since then and is looking to have to cut about $70M in cap space just to get under the cap for 2025. They've simply refused to take their medicine to start building and its caught up to them. This is sort of the future I think the Cowboys are looking at if they continue with the same roster construction philosophy. Philly is another one that does great work with the cap, but its about to catch up to them, probably in 2026, but they got multiple super bowl runs out of it and have at least a competitive team this year. They have a little more flexibility because they signed their QB while still on a rookie deal so it was essentially a 6 year deal at time of signing, and hes only on his 2nd contract.

I think you can overcome a lot of issues with the cap, but years and years of poor decisions will catch up to a franchise.

I’ll agree with you disagreeing with me lol. The Rams plan would be better than whatever it is they are attempting now. That’s for sure.

My whole point these days is that the down cycle after success is inevitable, so you may as well take your shot when it’s in front of you, as it was in 21-24, not take some half measure in an attempt to always be a contender. Wont happen. You’re naturally set up to fail after a period of success for several reasons.

Philly is going to have to pay the tab at some point, but they are legit contenders for now and have been. They may not actually win another title, only one team a year does and it’s usually the same names, but they are definitely in the mix. If they lose it’ll be because they just got beat, not because they had no shot from go barring miracles.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I'll disagree with you here slightly. Personally I would rather see this team either go full Rams style all in for a year, or truly take a rebuild/cap reset season. Well i guess to clarify i think last offseason was the one to go all in on, this year I think they have too much of a hill to climb for that to be realistic.

I think its true you can always find cap space, but thats a game that will catch up to teams as well. Even New Orleans like you mentioned has been in cap purgatory ever since Brees left. At least when they had an elite QB they could overcome some of that. Currently they keep pushing out cap hits, but have been 9-8, 7-10, now 9-8, and currently 3-7 since then and is looking to have to cut about $70M in cap space just to get under the cap for 2025. They've simply refused to take their medicine to start building and its caught up to them. This is sort of the future I think the Cowboys are looking at if they continue with the same roster construction philosophy. Philly is another one that does great work with the cap, but its about to catch up to them, probably in 2026, but they got multiple super bowl runs out of it and have at least a competitive team this year. They have a little more flexibility because they signed their QB while still on a rookie deal so it was essentially a 6 year deal at time of signing, and hes only on his 2nd contract.

I think you can overcome a lot of issues with the cap, but years and years of poor decisions will catch up to a franchise.

Great post. Last year was the year. We need to factor in massive contracts to Tyler (LT money), Micah (40 per), Bland. Even Overshown only has two years left of his Rookie Deal.
As for creating CAP, via restructuring is applicable to every other club and looking at being an attractive destination I bet Henry would have plumped for Baltimore, even if we'd offered a similar contract.... they're just a better run organisation.
I'm with you, we've got to look to the future.... I hope Jerry has to cede some control to get a HC, a coach that has a heavy say in how the rosters compiled.
Just can't have a 'yes' man.

 

[john van brocklin]

Dak's Contract screwed us!

I have been a Dak fan an supported him overall, yet his new contract is so dumb (dumb, dumb, dumb). Let him play it out and then sign him if he does something.

Seriously, We sacrificed drafting a QB in the top 10 and actually having options or being forced to ride with him for the next 3 years with hard cap hits. Parsons and his big mouth, No OL help, No RB help, no DL to stop the run, and hoping a new coach in the next 2 years wants to even try.

What do we have? Diggs, and Lamb are the only building blocks we have.

I am sad, and never have I been this down on the team.

Again, I was never a Dak hater and still not, but you don't extend him.

I have a car loan right now. I would not re-finance it unless the interest allows me to pay it off sooner without sacrificing the age of the loan.

Yep, we are screwed for several years.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I’ll agree with you disagreeing with me lol. The Rams plan would be better than whatever it is they are attempting now. That’s for sure.

My whole point these days is that the down cycle after success is inevitable, so you may as well take your shot when it’s in front of you, as it was in 21-24, not take some half measure in an attempt to always be a contender. Wont happen. You’re naturally set up to fail after a period of success for several reasons.

Philly is going to have to pay the tab at some point, but they are legit contenders for now and have been. They may not actually win another title, only one team a year does and it’s usually the same names, but they are definitely in the mix. If they lose it’ll be because they just got beat, not because they had no shot from go barring miracles.

Yeah I agree with you there, unless your KC who has a great HC, bargain QB contract, and a front office that is willing to proactively move on from a guy like Tyreek Hill its nearly impossible to not have some down years after the good ones. The league is simply set up for teams to cycle that way.

This is the biggest issue I have with the way the Cowboys are ran currently. At some point they have to just commit one way or the other to either making a run or churning the roster for a mini rebuild. They continue year after year to run it back and as you said earlier they are simply hoping the ball will eventually bounce in their favor a series of times come playoff time. Thats a money making plan, not a win a championship plan.