Dak's Contract screwed us!

[DallasEast]

I'm going to put this in bold letters, Jimmy Johnson would not have won any more games than Barry switzer Barry switzer took Jimmy's team as far as you could then the team deteriorated they got old they got hurt they started retiring they started getting cut and he would have left anyway probably after 1996 but let me give you till 1998 but there was not gonna be much more winning here he was going to leave anyway he said it it was mutual and I guarantee we have as many Super Bowls as we would have even if Jimmy was not out after the last Super Bowl he would've won one of the other two Super Bowls just like switzer and that would have been it the rest of it's gonna be the same how do you think it would be any different? I'm really tired of the false narrative that's been spread around here for years that he was forced out he embarrassed his boss he said some bad things he chose not to apologize they parted mutually but he would not have won any more Super Bowls it would not have been staying here very much longer than he did he said it he said that things over the years but none of you wanna listen 'cause .... if jimmy would have stayed till 1998...

 

[fivetwos]

Yeah I agree with you there, unless your KC who has a great HC, bargain QB contract, and a front office that is willing to proactively move on from a guy like Tyreek Hill its nearly impossible to not have some down years after the good ones. The league is simply set up for teams to cycle that way.

This is the biggest issue I have with the way the Cowboys are ran currently. At some point they have to just commit one way or the other to either making a run or churning the roster for a mini rebuild. They continue year after year to run it back and as you said earlier they are simply hoping the ball will eventually bounce in their favor a series of times come playoff time. Thats a money making plan, not a win a championship plan.

We are on the same page for sure.

Personally I think it’s the kid’s influence. He simply doesn’t want to win badly enough to risk bad seasons when they can’t market their product as being “close.” Hence the half measures.

I think they just might be in a jam this time though. Matter of how long it takes them to realize it and of course, what’s done about it. Gotta admit the problem first.

 

[blueblood70]

Fact hey I get it you wanna keep the narrative that you wanna blame Jerry Jones for the for the Jimmy Johnson thing and that's OK but we all know the truth it's come out we've had 30 years to listen to both sides but the fact is he did embarrass his boss he was drunk he said things he should have took back and he mutually parted but the real fact is we would not have won anymore Super Bowls he was not gonna stay here like Bill Belichick he was not a lifer he was not gonna be 19 years with the Dallas Cowboys in my opinion he would not have stayed past 1998 maybe sooner so we would probably be in the same spot regardless you can blame Jerry all you want from 1996 and beyond but I believe before that those few years with Barry switzer pretty much when it ended up the same way if you don't like it I'm sorry but that's a real good perspective knowing what we've heard piece it together maybe you don't understand how to piece together facts they all agreed it was a mutual party besides said they were both stubborn they both said things they wish they could take back now but looking back it was gonna happen anyway Jimmy Johnson would not have been here more than a few years longer that is a fact so blame Jerry it's OK you can still blame Jerry from 1996 up until now but the break up was gonna happen anyway I believe we won what we were gonna win out of Jimmy's teams with all the free agency changing with the salary cap changing the movement of players we were not going to win much longer with Jimmy I'm sorry that you don't feel that way/.

But let's look at that example look at what Bill Belichick looked like before Tom Brady and before the dynasty and then look what happened when Tom started getting old and left and now Bill Belichick couldn't figure out how to rebuild the team so he left and now he's without a job but the New England Patriots haven't won since Tom Brady left and I promise you without Emmitt Smith and Troy Aikman and before that he had already left Michael Irvin this was on a downward spiral and it wasn't gonna stay very much longer just the only difference is that Tom Brady was an anomaly a lot like Derrick Henry and Terrell Owens where he was able to maintain it longer that's it that's the only reason Bill Belichick remained successful you have to have a dynasty it starts with the quarterback and head coach relationship like Patrick mahomes and Andy Reid it was about to fall off a Cliff if you don't like it I'm sorry that is actually being real using real facts no opinions not using hate goggles with Jerry Jones this is a fact and you get to still blame Jerry from 1996 up until now but don't keep saying and using the same ridiculous narrative that had Jimmy stayed longer and that break up didn't happen that somehow we'd be in a different place right now that's nonsense..

 

[rambo2]

I think you're spot on in your assessment. Jerry talks all the time about hanging around the rim and thats really what he has built this team to be over the years.....A really solid team with enough star power to look elite at times, but really isn't a serious championship contender. This year the frugalness and overconfidence in his ability to outsmart the rest of the league with bargain draft picks and UDFAs has caught up to him.

The issue we face right now is we dont have many players that make for good risks on kicking cap hits down the road. Lamb is probably a good option. Dak while they are probably forced to restructure in 2025 his deal you need to be careful with how much money you kick into future years, both due to how much money he makes as well as his age. This is the piece that worries me about the Cowboys ability to rebuild this roster quicky. A lot of people seem to think the Cowboys have a lot of money they can open up for next season, and in theory they are right, but I see this as simply keeping the Cowboys in mediocrity or worse for the next several years. Currently they are already the 7th highest cap number for 2025, 16 for 2026, 9 in 2027, and 5 in 2028. Now a lot of that will change as time goes on, but they already are at a disadvantage compared to the rest of the league for future years and still have several big names to lock up in Parsons, Bland, Smith, Ferg, Overshown, etc. over the next two offseasons. Moving current cap to future years just ensures that we mostly sit out free agency and remain draft dependent for quite a while, unless we see Jerry actually look to make a proactive move like trading a Micah Parsons.

I don't think it caught up to them. I think they were OK with letting this happen and it could work out better than they thought if they get the number 1 position in the draft.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I don't think it caught up to them. I think they were OK with letting this happen and it could work out better than they thought if they get the number 1 position in the draft.

You may be right, Its possible they anticipated the down year all along, but I think they are way more than 1 high draft pick away from getting this thing back on track though.

I know a lot of people will disagree with me and say its moreso a coaching issue, but I realistically think that half of this teams starters need to be upgraded before they win 12 games again.

 

[rambo2]

You may be right, Its possible they anticipated the down year all along, but I think they are way more than 1 high draft pick away from getting this thing back on track though.

I know a lot of people will disagree with me and say its moreso a coaching issue, but I realistically think that half of this teams starters need to be upgraded before they win 12 games again.

If they get the number 1 position, it sets them up to get a lot more than 1 high draft pick.

 

[Whyjerry]

Dak's Contract screwed us!

I have been a Dak fan an supported him overall, yet his new contract is so dumb (dumb, dumb, dumb). Let him play it out and then sign him if he does something.

Seriously, We sacrificed drafting a QB in the top 10 and actually having options or being forced to ride with him for the next 3 years with hard cap hits. Parsons and his big mouth, No OL help, No RB help, no DL to stop the run, and hoping a new coach in the next 2 years wants to even try.

What do we have? Diggs, and Lamb are the only building blocks we have.

I am sad, and never have I been this down on the team.

Again, I was never a Dak hater and still not, but you don't extend him.

I have a car loan right now. I would not re-finance it unless the interest allows me to pay it off sooner without sacrificing the age of the loan.

And it didn’t take very long did it?

At this point though it doesn’t matter. The old drunken gremlin is about to go max stupid.

 

[blueblood70]

If they get the number 1 position, it sets them up to get a lot more than 1 high draft pick.

We're not getting the number one pick I don't think there's any way we're the worst team but it's possible but just say it like this for people to understand these casuals don't get it let's just say we pick around 8 now we're picking around 8 in every single round versus the bottom 10 you know or the bottom 8 that's a big difference because we're almost picking out of our rounds when you're that low but now we're picking premiums you gotta have the top 10 picks in every round you have an opportunity to really get some good players all throughout the draft including not missing out on a running back like we did in the fifth round I believe if we'd have been up at the top we'd have got one of those young running backs but they kept getting taken before us so the whole group attend we may have had on the draft board all got taken because other teams were taking them before us when you have more than 20 teams picking before you you might as well be looking at it as a six round draft where you started not second round because they're so low you're not getting as much quality..

 

[Steve007]

Jerry will double down on his error and extend his cap hits even further down the road. These are not smart football people making these decisions. It is all about the bottom line on how much more money can they bring in.

Daks cap his next season is 90 million, so I expect them to kick the can down the road.

 

[Hadenough]

Told ya so.

Don’t whine about it now when you wanted the loser QB locked down.

You're 100% right! And fortunately for me I am enjoying it. Its just a shame that Prescott doesn't have to play in these losses. Some of these fans just flat out deserve what's coming.

 

[Hadenough]

We're not getting the number one pick I don't think there's any way we're the worst team but it's possible but just say it like this for people to understand these casuals don't get it let's just say we pick around 8 now we're picking around 8 in every single round versus the bottom 10 you know or the bottom 8 that's a big difference because we're almost picking out of our rounds when you're that low but now we're picking premiums you gotta have the top 10 picks in every round you have an opportunity to really get some good players all throughout the draft including not missing out on a running back like we did in the fifth round I believe if we'd have been up at the top we'd have got one of those young running backs but they kept getting taken before us so the whole group attend we may have had on the draft board all got taken because other teams were taking them before us when you have more than 20 teams picking before you you might as well be looking at it as a six round draft where you started not second round because they're so low you're not getting as much quality..

And if they have a top 10 pick the dumbest thing they could do is not take a QB. All NFL teams are only as good as their QB. The most important position on the field!

 

[thunderpimp91]

If they get the number 1 position, it sets them up to get a lot more than 1 high draft pick.

Maybe, its possible they would trade down to get a boat load of picks. I'm skeptical they are quite bad enough to end up with the top pick though and could see them staying where they are and getting a Ashton Jeanty, Mason Graham, or McMillian type of plug and play starter.

Itll be interesting to watch though, should make the offseason exciting to monitor.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

You're 100% right! And fortunately for me I am enjoying it. Its just a shame that Prescott doesn't have to play in these losses. Some of these fans just flat out deserve what's coming.

Ya, good old Dak couldn't even give us what we deserved after all these years of having some people here telling us about his Elite status.
Punked out and he will punk out again.
Panama Panama Panama Panama Panama Panama Panama you get the idea here on this chap???

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Dak's Contract screwed us!

I have been a Dak fan an supported him overall, yet his new contract is so dumb (dumb, dumb, dumb). Let him play it out and then sign him if he does something.

Seriously, We sacrificed drafting a QB in the top 10 and actually having options or being forced to ride with him for the next 3 years with hard cap hits. Parsons and his big mouth, No OL help, No RB help, no DL to stop the run, and hoping a new coach in the next 2 years wants to even try.

What do we have? Diggs, and Lamb are the only building blocks we have.

I am sad, and never have I been this down on the team.

Again, I was never a Dak hater and still not, but you don't extend him.

I have a car loan right now. I would not re-finance it unless the interest allows me to pay it off sooner without sacrificing the age of the loan.

definitely needed another thread to set this out

 

[KJJ]

Wrong.

He left out Overshown and Bland if he’s the same player after this injury. Not much to be excited about. A ton of holes on this team. We could be looking at a number of very lean years.

 

[charron]

They screwed themselves. Dak's agent did exactly what he is paid to do. The Jones family chose to do this instead of using their brains and going in a different direction. They will screw up again when they pay Parsons.

 

[DallasEast]

Fact hey I get it you wanna keep the narrative that you wanna blame Jerry Jones for the for the Jimmy Johnson thing and that's OK but we all know the truth it's come out we've had 30 years to listen to both sides but the fact is he did embarrass his boss he was drunk he said things he should have took back and he mutually parted but the real fact is we would not have won anymore Super Bowls he was not gonna stay here like Bill Belichick he was not a lifer he was not gonna be 19 years with the Dallas Cowboys in my opinion he would not have stayed past 1998 maybe sooner so we would probably be in the same spot regardless you can blame Jerry all you want from 1996 and beyond but I believe before that those few years with Barry switzer pretty much when it ended up the same way if you don't like it I'm sorry but that's a real good perspective knowing what we've heard piece it together maybe you don't understand how to piece together facts they all agreed it was a mutual party besides said they were both stubborn they both said things they wish they could take back now but looking back it was gonna happen anyway Jimmy Johnson would not have been here more than a few years longer that is a fact so blame Jerry it's OK you can still blame Jerry from 1996 up until now but the break up was gonna happen anyway I believe we won what we were gonna win out of Jimmy's teams with all the free agency changing with the salary cap changing the movement of players we were not going to win much longer with Jimmy I'm sorry that you don't feel that way/.

But let's look at that example look at what Bill Belichick looked like before Tom Brady and before the dynasty and then look what happened when Tom started getting old and left and now Bill Belichick couldn't figure out how to rebuild the team so he left and now he's without a job but the New England Patriots haven't won since Tom Brady left and I promise you without Emmitt Smith and Troy Aikman and before that he had already left Michael Irvin this was on a downward spiral and it wasn't gonna stay very much longer just the only difference is that Tom Brady was an anomaly a lot like Derrick Henry and Terrell Owens where he was able to maintain it longer that's it that's the only reason Bill Belichick remained successful you have to have a dynasty it starts with the quarterback and head coach relationship like Patrick mahomes and Andy Reid it was about to fall off a Cliff if you don't like it I'm sorry that is actually being real using real facts no opinions not using hate goggles with Jerry Jones this is a fact and you get to still blame Jerry from 1996 up until now but don't keep saying and using the same ridiculous narrative that had Jimmy stayed longer and that break up didn't happen that somehow we'd be in a different place right now that's nonsense..

Good golly. Just how many freaking features does talk-to-text software offer?

 

[plasticman]

The fact a deal was done at all is what screwed us. Dak never should've been resigned. I had hope over the off-season that this would be the last season under Dak, that we might move on and win something in the next few years. And that was why we weren't active in FA, we were resetting. But then they resigned him and nothing made sense anymore. What was it all for????

All true, but you are blaming the wrong person.

These were all the same circumstances from Dak's previous contract. What did Jerry Jones learn from that?

Did Jerry ensure that there was a backup plan? Did he draft any quarterbacks with the serious intent to provide options? Did Jerry encourage competition in order to provide leverage and keep Dak/s contract demands realistic?

At the very least, was he proactive in regard to Dak's contract by addressing the issue early enough to prevent the salary escalation?

Dak and his agent only did what every other QB with a pending contract did. Jerry wanted to prove what a smooth negotiator he was and the results were the same every time he tried to be slick. We got screwed.

 

[blueblood70]

Good golly. Just how many freaking features does talk-to-text software offer?

Aren't you a mod here those are your features as part of this forum right there above.lol so I talked to text and then highlight it and select the size of the font and the color and the type.....

 

[blueblood70]

Good golly. Just how many freaking features does talk-to-text software offer?

Well you said do it in red