Dallas Cowboys are interviewing Oregon RBs coach Ra'Shaad Samples

[maryquality]

So what is Samples making at Oregon?

 

[Mr_437]

Not stupid at all.

Yes very stupid, what other profession does this happen with billions of dollars involved?

 

[Carson]

So what is Samples making at Oregon?

Ra'Shaad Samples, the running backs coach for the University of Oregon, has a prorated salary of $500,000 for the 2024 season and $650,000 for the 2025 season. He also received a $45,000 signing bonus.

 

[Gambit]

Some context for the Jerry is cheap crowd.

 

[TheDuke]

Yes very stupid, what other profession does this happen with billions of dollars involved?

More than you're aware of. It's market value.

 

[rambo2]

Yes very stupid, what other profession does this happen with billions of dollars involved?

You can make more money later if you want to move up the ladder and some would like to get into the NFL and some would like to work for the Cowboys in a 500k gig. Calling these guys stupid is stupid.

 

[Gambit]

I wonder, can anyone tell us the average salary of a RB coach in the NFL? Hint it's a lot less than you think.

If so, can you tell us the exact offer Dallas has made either of these 2 candidates?

Then we can see if it was "cheap" or not.

People love making up a narrative in their head then running with it like it's a known truth. Kinda funny to watch.

 

[Mr_437]

More than you're aware of. It's market value.

Since you're aware name them.

 

[Mr_437]

You can make more money later if you want to move up the ladder and some would like to get into the NFL and some would like to work for the Cowboys in a 500k gig. Calling these guys stupid is stupid.

I'm saying it's stupid that a profession would pay less than amateur. I'm not trashing the coaches, I'm well aware this could advance their career in the long run, but to become a professional and have to take a paycut is crazy work.

 

[blueblood70]

Yep it's a paycut for either.

does somebody wanna locate an actual top 10 running back coach salaries and what teams they're coaching on so we can have an idea because I'm tired of hearing how cheap Jerry is when it's not the truth he paid Dan Quinn $4.5 million to stay here as an assistant you know defensive coordinator he's making the same money as a head coach in Washington we've already been over this Jerry Jones was paying Mike McCarthy about the same as what the rest of the Nfce head coaches are making in fact it's 15 on the salary list for head coaches not many are making over 10 million but a lot of them are making close to 4 to 7 million Jerry was right in that area of paying the league average or above for his coaches so this being public record it's easy to find but running back coaches are harder to find..

No I did find some for college and DeMarco Murray is making 575,000 with the Oklahoma Sooners as well as Samples at 500k, is also making that as a running backs coach. So apparently, he's taking a pay cut if that's truly what they're paying to choice, then Texas is overpaying their staff versus the average...

But strangely enough it's more difficult to find the NFL position coach contracts.. So if we're already looking down that list 700,000 is not the goal if on average most of the running back position coaches in college are making around 4 to 500,000 that's not probably far off on with the making in the NFl..

 

[Runwildboys]

Some of us want him to stay at UT.
Horns before Cowboys.

No, no, you're thinking of Bros before ...well, you know.

 

[blueblood70]

Tashard making reportedly 725 grand this year @ Texas may be a little steep for the Cowboys to overcome. The Oregon coach seems qualified.

Everyone keeps saying this but here's the problem it's pretty well known I see the top list in college for what running back coaches make but there's zero information on it in the NFL so you are reading something out of thin air saying that Jerry's too cheap or it's too steep for Jerry yet we don't even know what the running back coaches average salary is in the NFL.. I can find a lot of information using Google but it seems like position coaches they don't put that out there it's not like public information but most of the college running back coaches are making in the 500,000 range so Texas is severely overpaying for that position whereas the average is where I sit so you can sit there at about 450,000 for college running back coaches it's safe to say that it would be a little more in the NFL but I can't find any information so please stop assuming what the offer might be and go find me information for the top 10 running back coaches in the NFL and show me their salaries show me a current contract because they don't seem to be very public..

 

[blueblood70]

I'm saying it's stupid that a profession would pay less than amateur. I'm not trashing the coaches, I'm well aware this could advance their career in the long run, but to become a professional and have to take a paycut is crazy work.

I wouldn't call it amateur it'd be the same because is employment this isn't the players which by the way the NFL has to pay 60 players $250 million you know to run their business then they have to pay an entire coaching staff but when you're talking about big time schools that are making big time money off these coaches and players they tend to pay quite a bit to have the better coaching Staffs because they really can't pay 150 players so they have excess money to pay or overpay coaches...

And I do see your point but here's the problem nobody has even stated what the average top ten salary is for a running back coach the NFL and I can't find it literally everyone saying that it's less than college and I'm trying to find that but in college the average salary for running back coach is actually 450,000 two of the coaches that we're talking about here in samples and DeMarco Murray they're making 575,000 and 500,000 so it's considerably already less than to Choice..

You know as good as Google is apparently the NFL doesn't really report most of the positional coaches contracts and we don't know what they make I haven't been able to find it I spent 10 minutes looking for it but I found a whole list for college....


So before we go off and say that they're gonna be making less than college we need to find out what they're actually making so we have something to compare it to...

So I get your point but also see it as a stepping stone to move up and become more prominent as a coordinator sometime down the road which can make you even more money but here's the thing there's a lot of college head coaches making more than head coaches in the NFL so apparently it's a trend it's not just the running back position.. There's probably 15 maybe even 17 head coaches in the NFL that make less than some of the top head coaches in college.. I guess the old saying it is what it is why worry about it it's not our money I would just like to know where we're starting at we need some kind of number to where we know what would be a fair offer...

My guess is 400-600,000....range

 

[_sturt_]

I don't know if this is some kind of ploy or not but we want Choice.

Me, I'm not going to pretend to have insight into who is a fit and who isn't. I'm just not going to give-in to that temptation to presume based on whatever stats or whatever media comments are made.

The logic follows that if I'm one of those people who complain about Jerry and Stephen having too much gravity in these decisions, then I clearly... not even having really studied any of these people, let alone having sat with them in an interview to have a sense of their personality and their convictions... should be somewhere behind the Joneses in the "capacity to declare the best option" department.

These position coaches should be almost if not exclusively a function of whatever Schotty and his new OC believe to be smartest.

Period. End of sentence.

I'm entitled to having an opinion. Sure. But I'm also smart to grasp the limits of my own wisdom/intelligence. That's just a life rule.

 

[InPhiltraitor]

Samples is a good coach and recruiter and would be a big loss for the Ducks.

Those that question this move and pine for Choice - don't. This would be a super hire.

Conspiracy theorists could suggest this move was initiated by Del Conte @ UT calling in a favor from Jerry Jones. Samples is an excellent recruiter with ties to many top tier incoming Ducks players. Of course Samples has ties to the state of Texas as well, which along with the So Cal region, is an area in which Oregon has been plundering top tier talent.

I would hate this for Oregon, but Dan Lanning literally has a rolodex of coaching names as he understands that if you're winning in college, you're losing position coaches.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

No, no, you're thinking of Bros before ...well, you know.

No, chicks before ...well, you know.

 

[TwentyOne]

So what is Samples making at Oregon?

Someone has some info samples of him?

 

[Blast From The Past]

Everyone keeps saying this but here's the problem it's pretty well known I see the top list in college for what running back coaches make but there's zero information on it in the NFL so you are reading something out of thin air saying that Jerry's too cheap or it's too steep for Jerry yet we don't even know what the running back coaches average salary is in the NFL.. I can find a lot of information using Google but it seems like position coaches they don't put that out there it's not like public information but most of the college running back coaches are making in the 500,000 range so Texas is severely overpaying for that position whereas the average is where I sit so you can sit there at about 450,000 for college running back coaches it's safe to say that it would be a little more in the NFL but I can't find any information so please stop assuming what the offer might be and go find me information for the top 10 running back coaches in the NFL and show me their salaries show me a current contract because they don't seem to be very public..

Just passing along what I read but if true then someones lying.

 

[CWR]

I think he might be on the wrong board.

 

[rambo2]

I'm saying it's stupid that a profession would pay less than amateur. I'm not trashing the coaches, I'm well aware this could advance their career in the long run, but to become a professional and have to take a paycut is crazy work.

College is not amateur anymore.