Dallas Cowboys are interviewing Oregon RBs coach Ra'Shaad Samples

[TwentyOne]

Pro ball.
They're paid.

nah

thats just compensation for their expenses.

 

[Runwildboys]

That's a fact. Ewers should've went back for $6M and Beck went back for $4M. It's definitely professional money, but @rambo2 I'm just wondering what do we call this?

Semipro?

 

[blueblood70]

Just passing along what I read but if true then someones lying.

Of course the Internet lies people are guessing they're sharing third party information that turns into six party information and now 100 people believe it but I need to see it and like I said I tried to research it I can't find a single list that shows the top ten highest paid running back coaches hell I even looked up Gary brown you know a long time running back coach here for Dallas just trying to find out what he was paid I couldn't find it it literally doesn't show what it does show is that most position coaches in the NFL make between 3 and 600,000..

The only way we can truly have a debate is finding out what Jerry is offering and how it stacks up against the rest of the league versus what they're making now and we don't have that data it's incomplete we cannot have this debate without knowing the truth the truth would be showing concrete evidence a list and like I said I spent too much time already looking for it and couldn't find anything....

It seems to me if you're not a head coach or a hold a major position like OC/DC maybe the online coach, I don't know but you're not gonna find what they make ,they seem to be keeping that not public.. information...

 

[blueblood70]

Fellas, if it's not amateur, what is it?

I think we've gotten past that the players are being paid now but that's a whole another issue but that is a profession it's no different than the teachers at the schools the colleges are teaching what do they call them professors what's the root word of professors that would be a pro teacher how can you not be a professional coach if it's at the same school and you're being paid by the same people?

Just because the players are at a school that are considered amateurs it doesn't mean the coaches are I mean I don't see how you can't discern the difference? Are you trying to tell me it's not a profession at the high school the teachers are teaching kids that are also some of the athletes right but the athletes are amateurs but the teachers are professionals..lol

so when we're looking at pay scales the jobs are very similar you're a head coach you're an offensive coordinator you're running backs coach you're being paid that makes you a professional it doesn't matter that they're teaching amateurs but I think we've moved across the line with the transfer portal has been used like free agency they're being bid on and they're being paid so we've kinda crossed over there anyway but we don't need to get into that but the professionals are the coaches they are professional coaches even if they're not coaching in the NFL their profession is coaching...

Of course you would think the NFL could pay them more but that's just not the case always it depends on the school but there's only a handful of schools that are paying more than the NFL and they're basically overpaying to get the best..

I mean it's not a big deal I'm just saying there's not even a list and I'm telling you I look for it that even says with all the position coaches are making in the NFL I find it odd that you can find all the major coaches contracts and pay scales but you can't find anything on positional coaches like a wide receiver or running back coach it's it's very difficult to find I look I even tried Gary brown the long time running backs coach here to try to find out what he was paid when he was here just trying to find a baseline and there's nothing it literally can't find the information so how are we supposed to have this debate?.

 

[jterrell]

Samples is Dallas royalty.
His Dad is the Godfather of DFW area HS football coaches.
He took off in coaching because of his elite recruiting skills.

If either he or Tashard take the job it will entail a pay cut but a massive reduction in work travel.
I can see both being interested as a steppingstone in the NFL world or a massive resume booster to return to the college ranks as an OC or higher who recruits less than position coaches.

 

[Blast From The Past]

Of course the Internet lies people are guessing they're sharing third party information that turns into six party information and now 100 people believe it but I need to see it and like I said I tried to research it I can't find a single list that shows the top ten highest paid running back coaches hell I even looked up Gary brown you know a long time running back coach here for Dallas just trying to find out what he was paid I couldn't find it it literally doesn't show what it does show is that most position coaches in the NFL make between 3 and 600,000..

The only way we can truly have a debate is finding out what Jerry is offering and how it stacks up against the rest of the league versus what they're making now and we don't have that data it's incomplete we cannot have this debate without knowing the truth the truth would be showing concrete evidence a list and like I said I spent too much time already looking for it and couldn't find anything....

It seems to me if you're not a head coach or a hold a major position like OC/DC maybe the online coach, I don't know but you're not gonna find what they make ,they seem to be keeping that not public.. information...

Thank you for trying to research it. I guess anyone can throw out numbers undefined and most just go with it. I know I do. But I guess Tashard is staying at Texas for the why I do not know but reportedly it was over the money. Who knows as we can't get numbers to compare.

 

[blueblood70]

Thank you for trying to research it. I guess anyone can throw out numbers undefined and most just go with it. I know I do. But I guess Tashard is staying at Texas for the why I do not know but reportedly it was over the money. Who knows as we can't get numbers to compare.

I don't think any decision's been made by any of the 3-4 that we have interviewed, I think they add DeMarco Murray to that list late..

so there is no finality yet to this story so we'll find out I imagine by tomorrow because now that it's Monday again they've done all their interviews and research now they're going to do their due diligence trying to get the guy they really want but it seems like they got 2 great choices and a couple solid choices, but I don't see how this hire seems to be a bigger thing than it usually is,​

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the running back coach to me is solid but it's really the offensive coordinator the offensive line coach and the tight end coach I mean they're the ones that are gonna create the run game fit you know the schemes the game planning the running back coach I don't know is he just a go to a sounding board for the running backroom but is he that important I mean this is become like we're trying to hire the next hot offensive coordinator and I believe it's being overblown...​

I mean it's nice to have but i think too much is being made of this hire.... It's typically an ex running back from the NFL maybe they have some ties to the team and I can see it being DeMarco Murray if he wants to leave Oklahoma but someone like him isn't that all we need? There's way too many layers between the running back coach and the head coach that i don't see where he has a whole lot of influence..

I mean truthfully, I don't even know who our running back coach was this year I knew Gary Brown because he was here so long but the last 2 years , nope have zero idea LOL

 

[Blast From The Past]

I don't think any decision's been made by any of the 3-4 that we have interviewed, I think they add DeMarco Murray to that list late..

so there is no finality yet to this story so we'll find out I imagine by tomorrow because now that it's Monday again they've done all their interviews and research now they're going to do their due diligence trying to get the guy they really want but it seems like they got 2 great choices and a couple solid choices, but I don't see how this hire seems to be a bigger thing than it usually is,​

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the running back coach to me is solid but it's really the offensive coordinator the offensive line coach and the tight end coach I mean they're the ones that are gonna create the run game fit you know the schemes the game planning the running back coach I don't know is he just a go to a sounding board for the running backroom but is he that important I mean this is become like we're trying to hire the next hot offensive coordinator and I believe it's being overblown...​

I mean it's nice to have but i think too much is being made of this hire.... It's typically an ex running back from the NFL maybe they have some ties to the team and I can see it being DeMarco Murray if he wants to leave Oklahoma but someone like him isn't that all we need? There's way too many layers between the running back coach and the head coach that i don't see where he has a whole lot of influence..

I mean truthfully, I don't even know who our running back coach was this year I knew Gary Brown because he was here so long but the last 2 years , nope have zero idea LOL

As far as importance they all play their role in the cog of wheels that make up the staff. And search me but this years rb coach was ???? Gary Brown I remember as well. It will be announce in short order. But I like doing something rather than nothing. So the team is shaping up.

 

[blueblood70]

As far as importance they all play their role in the cog of wheels that make up the staff. And search me but this years rb coach was ???? Gary Brown I remember as well. It will be announce in short order. But I like doing something rather than nothing. So the team is shaping up.

Jeff Blasko

2023-2024

19-15-0

55.9%

0-1

looking at that name I'm like who?? anything has to be an improvement over him LOL

https://pro-football-history.com/franchpos/20/20/dallas-cowboys-running-backs-coach-history

 

[jterrell]

Thank you for trying to research it. I guess anyone can throw out numbers undefined and most just go with it. I know I do. But I guess Tashard is staying at Texas for the why I do not know but reportedly it was over the money. Who knows as we can't get numbers to compare.

Choice makes 550K at UT for 2024. It is a state salary so widely available.
Cowboys do not release their asst coach salaries... but most believe the job would have been a pay cut for both Choice and Samples.

Foster made 290K as Iowa asst coach in 2020.
My wild guess here is Foster makes about 450K with Dallas.

 

[Corso]

nah

thats just compensation for their expenses.

When you're paid, that makes it a profession.
When you're not paid, that makes you an amateur.

And millions for expenses?
What?

 

[Mr_437]

Semipro?

Sounds good to me.

 

[Blast From The Past]

Jeff Blasko

2023-2024

19-15-0

55.9%

0-1

looking at that name I'm like who?? anything has to be an improvement over him LOL

https://pro-football-history.com/franchpos/20/20/dallas-cowboys-running-backs-coach-history

Me too. Good read there. Has all the rb coaches in our esteemed history.

 

[blueblood70]

Me too. Good read there. Has all the rb coaches in our esteemed history.

Point was ,what we had the last two years and what ive seen from others staffs that the RB position isnt always filled by some recognizable name and i believe this might be an improvement over the last 2 years, Ironically enough the worst Ruin games we had in long while. So while not getting samples or choice which neither did any other NFL team isnt that big of deal.

 

[blueblood70]

Choice makes 550K at UT for 2024. It is a state salary so widely available.
Cowboys do not release their asst coach salaries... but most believe the job would have been a pay cut for both Choice and Samples.

Foster made 290K as Iowa asst coach in 2020.
My wild guess here is Foster makes about 450K with Dallas.

actually, the entire NFL doesn't really release the salaries from their positional coaches, so we have no baseline to debate. trust me i checked...

 

[jterrell]

actually, the entire NFL doesn't really release the salaries from their positional coaches, so we have no baseline to debate. trust me i checked...

yup it is self-reported in some places like any other job site posting but they don't release them.
the avg for non-coordinators was 400K as last collected.
some positions are even internships.
kliff kingsbury worked for essentially free for 2 years at UH as the qb coach to prove his mettle.

 

[blueblood70]

yup it is self-reported in some places like any other job site posting but they don't release them.
the avg for non-coordinators was 400K as last collected.
some positions are even internships.
kliff kingsbury worked for essentially free for 2 years at UH as the qb coach to prove his mettle.

I'm not talking about college talking about the professional NFL league..

I've looked all over I spent way too much time already there is no record of how much non coordinators positional coaches' salaries and contracts are in the NFL..

they're just not there as you say they're self-reported they're not really self-reporting many of them because I'm not seeing a baseline for us to have this debate on whether Jerry is paying his positional coaches fair salaries..

Therefore it's a moot point and we shouldn't have a debate because we don't know...

But given what I do know is Jerry is paying his coaching staff the league average or above and has overpaid for some coordinators like Dan Quinn was making the same money here as a coordinator he's making as a head coach with Washington so this should just be put to bed Jerry is not paying his coaches cheap rates and that's why they're not coming here his offers are very fair league average or above and that's all we can assume that he's doing with positional coaches..